Noblegarden Sale 2024
Noblegarden Sale 2024
Greetings to all, and happy Noblegarden!
To celebrate the season, our donation shop is hosting a sale until April 10th. Our Nobelgarden fashion line has also been released, which will only be available for the duration of the sale, so don't miss out! There's also a mysterious egg which has been added to the store. Who knows what surprises it may contain?
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Interested in spoiling the surprise?
The following items are randomly available within the egg:
Don't like what you got? Gizbert Eggwell will buy it off you in Stormwind or Orgrimmar. But be warned, they're not going to give you full value...
If you would like to block yourself from buying eggs, please open a GM ticket.
The following items are randomly available within the egg:
If you would like to block yourself from buying eggs, please open a GM ticket.
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Do they have different drop rates depending on how many coins something has?
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Different items have different droprates.Speedz1337 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:52 amDo they have different drop rates depending on how many coins something has?
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Is drop from egg is sharable?
I mean I can trade it to another person.
Thx
I mean I can trade it to another person.
Thx
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All shop items are character bound. I don't see why this would be any different. I see this being abused.
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All another shop items is not random, if I buy egg I have some casino options
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Loot boxes on Turtle WoW...
Shouldn't developers focus on something really important?
Class changes maybe?
Shouldn't developers focus on something really important?
Class changes maybe?
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Loot boxes on Turtle WoW...
Remember guys, casino always win. I wouldn't be surprised if average drop from egg would cost more than buying specific item from shop alone. Can any GM confirm it's otherwise? If not, we know the answer - cash grab.
Remember guys, casino always win. I wouldn't be surprised if average drop from egg would cost more than buying specific item from shop alone. Can any GM confirm it's otherwise? If not, we know the answer - cash grab.
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I agree. Flavor-wise it matches with Easter but these loot boxes abuse people with any gambling addiction tendencies. Okay, none of the rewards makes your character stronger (only cosmetics or qol) but it doesn't feel the Twow way. If you want us to spend more, add more items to the donation shop (forum had plenty of ideas) but never include the adrenaline rush of a random reward. Some moro... good fellows will be hooked up and spend a smaller fortune to see what's inside the egg. Ok, you can get some of your money back if you don't like the reward but still. Those people will spam this for the adrenaline rush.
Big companies abuse this, you shouldn't. I mean, in my eyes you are/were special because of this.
I'm inclined to buy stuffs from the shop as long as you keep away any character boost/buff and random loot effect from there.
Ideas for rewards people would actually buy:
* Donation-only TMOG items
* Voice illusion (as long as you turn it on, your character's sound effects would be like a troll/dwarf etc sound effects)
* Buy me a coffee for 10 coins (just shows appreciation, without any reward)
* Summonable class trainer for leveling (qol)
Big companies abuse this, you shouldn't. I mean, in my eyes you are/were special because of this.
I'm inclined to buy stuffs from the shop as long as you keep away any character boost/buff and random loot effect from there.
Ideas for rewards people would actually buy:
* Donation-only TMOG items
* Voice illusion (as long as you turn it on, your character's sound effects would be like a troll/dwarf etc sound effects)
* Buy me a coffee for 10 coins (just shows appreciation, without any reward)
* Summonable class trainer for leveling (qol)
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Would like to add into lootboxes
> bring back normal AV version
> fix paladins damage
> bring back normal AV version
> fix paladins damage
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To loot tremendous amount of money TWOW just has to open race/faction change.
Even if they do not have a programmer able to create that tool, they can simply hire a guy who does that manually, the income will be HUGE
No clue why twow did not that already but implementing lootboxes (looteggs)
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The bag of fashion coins is not character bound. So that's at least one thing that isn't.
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Am I assume it right that you can get return donation item and get some points back?
Assuming that brainwashing device is in list and it can be bought, then it is possible to convert gold to donation points.
I haven't checked it though.
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Add lvl requirement to bandages
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Coming from a family of addicts and having gambling addicts close to me in my personal life really makes me hate that they've done this. I feel like this is a step in the wrong direction in a big way. If you're short on funds, ask for more donations, put stuff on sale more, or something. No need to bilk players out of their hard-earned cash. Also, don't forget there are literal children that play this game. SO many reasons not to do this and only really ONE reason TO do it.
Please reverse this decision Twow team. <3
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I understand that development isn't cheap but standing by my principles of being an advocate for the community as best I can, I can not condone this donation shop egg thing. This could be very harmful, especially for people with gambling addictions and children who might not understand how this all works.
Here are suggestions to make the eggs less predatory:
~ Vrograg Fishslayer
Here are suggestions to make the eggs less predatory:
- publish odds: this is law in many jurisdictions for a reason, it allows people to understand how likely / unlikely certain outcomes are.
- limit the purchase amount per account: This is a wise safeguard to protect against people "chasing" certain items, which largely accounts for why "gatcha" games are so harmful / profitable.
- allow a way for players to obtain the egg in game: At the very least consider players who would like to participate but have no means to do so.
- Offering more transparency: If the team is struggling it would go a long way to try and understand this as not profit derivative. I understand given the legal gray area private servers are in this difficulty, but any info is better than none.
- Fundraising Goals: Consider server wide benefits for meeting them, kind of like "Patreon" stretch goals. This would allow people to participate fairly and within their means without disproportionally benefitting some players over others.
- Avoid Gambling rewards: Many see Turtle WoW as a refuge from the corporate slop many gamers are given, and loot box style rewards are one of those things that turns a lot of players off about them.
- Include the Players: This server exists as it does because of the players. Ask them how to best offer fundraising, much like how the team has reached out with the Class Change Council, you'd be surprised how creative and resourceful your own players can be in trying to support the team's efforts.
~ Vrograg Fishslayer
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I don't represent anybody except myself but please consider revoking this. Certain kind of people can hook up to this and this wouldn't be fair against them.
If server needs funds, many of us are weilling to chip in I think.
If server needs funds, many of us are weilling to chip in I think.
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The constructive feedback is very appreciated.Vrograg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:14 pmI understand that development isn't cheap but standing by my principles of being an advocate for the community as best I can, I can not condone this donation shop egg thing. This could be very harmful, especially for people with gambling addictions and children who might not understand how this all works.
Here are suggestions to make the eggs less predatory:
- publish odds: this is law in many jurisdictions for a reason, it allows people to understand how likely / unlikely certain outcomes are.
- limit the purchase amount per account: This is a wise safeguard to protect against people "chasing" certain items, which largely accounts for why "gatcha" games are so harmful / profitable.
In the future the team needs to consider less harmful options by:
- allow a way for players to obtain the egg in game: At the very least consider players who would like to participate but have no means to do so.
- Offering more transparency: If the team is struggling it would go a long way to try and understand this as not profit derivative. I understand given the legal gray area private servers are in this difficulty, but any info is better than none.
- Fundraising Goals: Consider server wide benefits for meeting them, kind of like "Patreon" stretch goals. This would allow people to participate fairly and within their means without disproportionally benefitting some players over others.
- Avoid Gambling rewards: Many see Turtle WoW as a refuge from the corporate slop many gamers are given, and loot box style rewards are one of those things that turns a lot of players off about them.
I say all these things with much love and respect for the team. I think over the years I have proven that I care about this community, and would only be so vocal if I truly felt it was important. This announcement is likely going to burn a lot of goodwill the players have for the team and I hope some of what I have written will help guide future donation shop offerings.
- Include the Players: This server exists as it does because of the players. Ask them how to best offer fundraising, much like how the team has reached out with the Class Change Council, you'd be surprised how creative and resourceful your own players can be in trying to support the team's efforts.
~ Vrograg Fishslayer
As of now, the odds can now be seen within the spoilered message below the original post. Players may also ticket support to have a restriction placed on their account to prevent access to this shop item.
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I very much agree with what Vrograg has said. This is a dirty cash grab. I am pretty sure the TurtleWoW community could just donate the money even without rewards, if we just knew how much do you need. Literal sites with pirated games have donation goals to keep themselves up and, yeah they meet them every time. I myself haven't had that much of an incentive to donate, considering my options for it I am hesitant to do it for simple small upgrades for my character, but I would be happy to donate if I knew that it is needed at the moment for the server and its staff to work properly (I absolutely adore the GM team on Turtle, the only one I have better experience with is ChromieCraft) and the donation shop was very uninvasive and imo very ethical. Random drops have no reason to exist unless it is to abuse players. If there would be a) few items, with none having the chance to drop twice or b) It would have a limit on few ones you can buy, I could close both of my eyes and say that none is gonna spend unreasonable amount of money on it.
Thankfully the items are not exclusive to the egg, that would make me absolutely despise this and maybe even switch to another server. Even if this is "not a big issue" now, it is a step in direction that ruined many private servers. If turtle needs money, it should say so and many players have some money to spare and donate so they can play with their friends on a great server, but I'm afraid I'm very much repeating what Vrograg said so I'm gonna stop now. I am doing a big fat upvote to every single part of Vrograg's comment here.
Thankfully the items are not exclusive to the egg, that would make me absolutely despise this and maybe even switch to another server. Even if this is "not a big issue" now, it is a step in direction that ruined many private servers. If turtle needs money, it should say so and many players have some money to spare and donate so they can play with their friends on a great server, but I'm afraid I'm very much repeating what Vrograg said so I'm gonna stop now. I am doing a big fat upvote to every single part of Vrograg's comment here.
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C'mon lads is that really what's up?
Supreme ouch.
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I always give the benefit of the doubt and also don't want to be harsh towards this project because it's amazing in so many ways and there are a lot of people who put in a lot of work so we can enjoy the server the way it is, but I feel like I have to express disagreement with the Egg item, because there are people this could genuinely hurt.
The issue I see is in the fact that the egg may contain really high value items, which can make people think "oh if I'm lucky I can get this mount that costs 20x as much" and that the egg may contain items otherwise unattainable. If someone wants one of those, their only way of getting that is to throw money at the egg.
On top of that, on a bit of a personal note, the Egg is now the only way to get our guild minipet, which was removed from our guild base. I want to believe it is all a result of unfortunate coincidences, and sure there sholdn't be a problem with this egg containing a rabbit. But I can't get rid of the taste of irony of the whole situation. Minipet disappears from our guild base only for it to appear in a lootbox 3 days later?
The issue I see is in the fact that the egg may contain really high value items, which can make people think "oh if I'm lucky I can get this mount that costs 20x as much" and that the egg may contain items otherwise unattainable. If someone wants one of those, their only way of getting that is to throw money at the egg.
On top of that, on a bit of a personal note, the Egg is now the only way to get our guild minipet, which was removed from our guild base. I want to believe it is all a result of unfortunate coincidences, and sure there sholdn't be a problem with this egg containing a rabbit. But I can't get rid of the taste of irony of the whole situation. Minipet disappears from our guild base only for it to appear in a lootbox 3 days later?
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I also come from a family of addicts and want to +1 everything Vrog said.
P.S. If you're clear about donation goals and funding, it's a way better look. I'd really be way more inclined to chip in if that were the case. A public donation bar that updates with purchases would be cool.
I wouldn't even be mad if there were incentives to go over it. Bonus goal like stretch goals in kickstarter never bothered me.
P.S. If you're clear about donation goals and funding, it's a way better look. I'd really be way more inclined to chip in if that were the case. A public donation bar that updates with purchases would be cool.
I wouldn't even be mad if there were incentives to go over it. Bonus goal like stretch goals in kickstarter never bothered me.
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It’s always weird when people flip out because turtlewow is “doing a cash grab”.
Just a reminder, this whole server is illegal. This is not a multiple billion dollar corporation.
Just a reminder, this whole server is illegal. This is not a multiple billion dollar corporation.
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Gambling can leave your wallet as empty as an eggshell. Those wins might seem egg-stravagant, but more often than not, they're just a mirage. Before you know it, you're scrambling to cover your losses.
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When you're caught up in the thrill of the game, it's easy to egg-nore your responsibilities.
Gambling can leave your wallet as empty as an eggshell. Those wins might seem egg-stravagant, but more often than not, they're just a mirage. Before you know it, you're scrambling to cover your losses.
Gambling can drive a wedge between you and your loved ones faster than you can say "over-easy." It's no sunny-side-up situation when trust is broken.
When you're caught up in the thrill of the game, it's easy to egg-nore your responsibilities.
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You absolutely right!
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I always tend to not assume the worst in people, so I am going to go ahead and think the team thought this egg to be just a piece of harmless fun. The changes to it being implemented so fast are appreciated.
I sincerely hope that they learn from the feedback and don't offer any similar items in future sales.
I sincerely hope that they learn from the feedback and don't offer any similar items in future sales.
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Turtle Wow is doing fine by me. You're IRL problems are not from this game, chill. What I do not like is I had no clue what the Egg was, and was VERY intrigued by it. I almost bought it For that mystery. I had to come all the way here to find out. OH God I had to use Google and my brain to type "Turtle Wow NobleGarden Egg" and find all the info I needed in a single click! What scoundrels! While this business practice is highly shunned uppon, it's because of Top Tier Developers Milking their corporate bought franchises. I mean the VAST disparity between them and a small team like this...you make me laugh! You're all trying so hard and I think it's a joke. Sure I will not spend my money on one now, although it does seem a little fun for me cause I never do this on anything else. But atm I just enjoy their deals. Go cry somewhere else. Thank you to all the staff. Continue your fine work. Ignore these children who talk about change but can't even bring basic math to the table to give ideas.
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Grow up, insecure little boy.Birdmanh20 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:56 amTurtle Wow is doing fine by me. You're IRL problems are not from this game, chill. What I do not like is I had no clue what the Egg was, and was VERY intrigued by it. I almost bought it For that mystery. I had to come all the way here to find out. OH God I had to use Google and my brain to type "Turtle Wow NobleGarden Egg" and find all the info I needed in a single click! What scoundrels! While this business practice is highly shunned uppon, it's because of Top Tier Developers Milking their corporate bought franchises. I mean the VAST disparity between them and a small team like this...you make me laugh! You're all trying so hard and I think it's a joke. Sure I will not spend my money on one now, although it does seem a little fun for me cause I never do this on anything else. But atm I just enjoy their deals. Go cry somewhere else. Thank you to all the staff. Continue your fine work. Ignore these children who talk about change but can't even bring basic math to the table to give ideas.
Egg is flavorful but indeed exploits some people with a certain mindset. Again, I'm ok with chipping in with some donation because I love this place but this egg can create a bad precedent for later.
PS: Apologizing for my words. Got triggered over the wording of the original message.
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>Heavily censors in game chat because they claim "children" play on a private server for a 20 year old game
>Adds gambling to the in game shop
>????
>Profit
>Adds gambling to the in game shop
>????
>Profit
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Sort of gambling was in game for a long time. It is goblin in orgrimmar.
There is also a anti-gambling glyph introduced in recent patches. I think it should work in this case too.
There is also a anti-gambling glyph introduced in recent patches. I think it should work in this case too.
Xudo - tauren warrior 19 Sergeant armory.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.