Return old Tents

[Darbo]

Old tents felt better because there were certain spots were people would gather for them. It felt nice. Now with the new change there are way less of them around cause people are just using it for themselves.

I go to xroads regularly to place one but not many people do anymore.

[Boras]

Old tents felt better because there were certain spots were people would gather for them. It felt nice. Now with the new change there are way less of them around cause people are just using it for themselves.

I go to xroads regularly to place one but not many people do anymore.

I do feel like there is a nice community aspect to the old tents. I’m not leveling anymore but I used to enjoy hearthing to gold shire and shooting the shit with people. Also the occasional warlock or mage trying to kill people with blizzard or rain of fire was always fun.

[Gantulga]

Did I miss the notice? What happened to tents?

[Darbo]

Did I miss the notice? What happened to tents?

tldk they give rested XP faster but they no longer stack and run out faster. So now they better anywhere instead in group like Crossroads and Goldshire. I cant make tent skyscrapers anymore.

[Gantulga]

Sounds like a good change, tent stacking was cringe and immersion breaking.

[Boras]

Sounds like a good change, tent stacking was cringe and immersion breaking.

you're cringe and immersion breaking

[Hamalam]

Old tents were fun indeed, let's hope for a return

[Sinrek]

Sounds like a good change, tent stacking was cringe and immersion breaking.

you're cringe and immersion breaking

Hahahh! You lost.

[Sylveria]

20+ Players standing around afk = community aspect? what? xD
I'm glad they changed it. As was already stated: it's immersion breaking. And overall: as far as i know, tents were always meant to be used everwhere in the world and not just in one or two spots.

[Markuis]

This is a great reflection of society. People asked for new tents, now they ask for the old ones.

The way to solve this is to make tents have a lower rested xp rate and make places like inns have the maxium. That way, people can get their rested exp in the wilderness while allowing for some pooling (even if cringe, which it was) in some towns.

[Subarashi4]

No, it's not that people asked for new tents, but now want the old ones. It's that some people wanted the tents changed, others wanted them to stay.
In the end, the devs have to choose which crowd to please. Personally I like the new ones better. Now I can just drop a random tent in the middle of nowhere while taking a break, and I will find a couple of people joining me to chill. I would actually love it if campfire also gave a stacking bonus to a stat like the tents do.
It makes adventuring so much more cozy when you can chill like that with friends in the middle of nowhere.

[Xudo]

Old tents were good because of point of interest for multiple people.
I think if devs implement suggesions regarding inns, it would suit both worlds.

[Andima]

May you please explain me (or link to) how do new tents work?

[Syrathegreat]

Old tents were good because of point of interest for multiple people.
I think if devs implement suggesions regarding inns, it would suit both worlds.

Yes 100%! If people are interested, there are at least three good threads (here, here and here) which gave really good suggestions about building interactive rested buffs at taverns - give them a bump if you're interested; I love these ideas so I end up compiling all the posts together.

I especially love some of Xudo's ideas:

Whole thing of tents placed right outside of the inn looks weird. Like bunch of bums are not allowed to enter and they camp around. Thats why I like the idea of "buffing" taverns, but turning tents in doesn't sound like good idea. Tents are meant for "survival" in the wild.

I think that any player should be able to buff tavern, not only the ones skilled with specific profession. I think players could donate cloth to innkeeper for tavern buff. Other options are:
- cooked meat or fish. Low level fish are mostly useless. It doesn't have any buff.
- lumber gathered from firewood bindings similar to chests scattered in world near trees
- gardening stuff
- hops. there should be an easy way for Horde to gather this things in Barrens

Playing Piccolo of the Flaming Fire could also increase rested xp gain and in the same time look like taverncraft.
Music boxes introduced in Turtle could also work that way Music: Winds of Kamio does

If being drunk, having "well fed" buff and dancing by someones play will be equal to 4 tents buff, then taverns will actually be filled with life

[Markuis]

Yeah, I liked that suggestion too.
Here, a few more posts on that topic:

viewtopic.php?p=27411#p27411
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4074&p=24891
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3757

[Spoing]

The old tents didnt really feel like social gatherings to me. People would just go there and AFK while the rested bonus was charging. And because its faster to run to goldshire and rest in stacked tents. camping out in the wilderness alone wasnt worth it. Now, if youre low level or cheap, you can still go to goldshire since plenty of people drop a tent there, but if you have your own you can use it at a convenient spot.
And because you just need one of them, people can drop them at different towns. So you have spontaneous gatherings in auberine or theramore because someone dropped a tent there. Or people chill in front of a dungeon while the rest is still traveling.

[Xudo]

New tents are still gathering point in Crossroads. There are like 20 people there at 15:45 Kalimdor Time. No need to return stacking mechanic.

[Geojak]

the only good argument for old tents i can think of is, is that now its way harder to aoe bomb a bunch of low levels afking and bunched up for easy kill conveniece. how are we gonna grieve like we could in the past, so sad /s

[Chronoslicer]

I'm a big inn xp buff advocate, I feel like once players are asking a bot for tents in the world chat, there is a gameplay/rp design issue.

Take this scenario for an example

You are a player questing, your bags are getting full, your armor is worn out, you want to take a break, etc. You have to vendor your goods and repair anyway, but you contemplate whether to head to goldshire/xroads for a split second, subconsciously or consciously, in the hopes of finding a tent. Maybe I'm an absolute fiend, but I have done that plenty of times. Some will make their way to a tent Hotspot and hope to not get disappointed, some will ask a bot in world chat (that only works for goldshire) if there is a tent there.

In my opinion this shouldn't have to happen, but it is a cultivated player behavior and encouraged with the game mechanics.

Imagine walking/driving to the next town over in the hopes that you can hang out in a transient's tent with a bunch of other loonies waiting instead of traveling to your nearest rest area, a.k.a an inn/hotel/restaurant etc. It's dramatic for me to say this, but it's madness!

As awesome and beautiful for rp some of the suggestions here are, I feel as though just a flat rested xp increase to all inns is less prone to dev error/bugs, and will prevent a huge swarm of players begging for an inn buff like they beg for tents. Please offer your criticisms, it's very interesting to see what people think!

[Syrathegreat]

I'm a big inn xp buff advocate, I feel like once players are asking a bot for tents in the world chat, there is a gameplay/rp design issue.

Take this scenario for an example

You are a player questing, your bags are getting full, your armor is worn out, you want to take a break, etc. You have to vendor your goods and repair anyway, but you contemplate whether to head to goldshire/xroads for a split second, subconsciously or consciously, in the hopes of finding a tent. Maybe I'm an absolute fiend, but I have done that plenty of times. Some will make their way to a tent Hotspot and hope to not get disappointed, some will ask a bot in world chat (that only works for goldshire) if there is a tent there.

In my opinion this shouldn't have to happen, but it is a cultivated player behavior and encouraged with the game mechanics.

Imagine walking/driving to the next town over in the hopes that you can hang out in a transient's tent with a bunch of other loonies waiting instead of traveling to your nearest rest area, a.k.a an inn/hotel/restaurant etc. It's dramatic for me to say this, but it's madness!

As awesome and beautiful for rp some of the suggestions here are, I feel as though just a flat rested xp increase to all inns is less prone to dev error/bugs, and will prevent a huge swarm of players begging for an inn buff like they beg for tents. Please offer your criticisms, it's very interesting to see what people think!

+1

[Xero]

I'm a big inn xp buff advocate, I feel like once players are asking a bot for tents in the world chat, there is a gameplay/rp design issue.

Take this scenario for an example

You are a player questing, your bags are getting full, your armor is worn out, you want to take a break, etc. You have to vendor your goods and repair anyway, but you contemplate whether to head to goldshire/xroads for a split second, subconsciously or consciously, in the hopes of finding a tent. Maybe I'm an absolute fiend, but I have done that plenty of times. Some will make their way to a tent Hotspot and hope to not get disappointed, some will ask a bot in world chat (that only works for goldshire) if there is a tent there.

In my opinion this shouldn't have to happen, but it is a cultivated player behavior and encouraged with the game mechanics.

Imagine walking/driving to the next town over in the hopes that you can hang out in a transient's tent with a bunch of other loonies waiting instead of traveling to your nearest rest area, a.k.a an inn/hotel/restaurant etc. It's dramatic for me to say this, but it's madness!

As awesome and beautiful for rp some of the suggestions here are, I feel as though just a flat rested xp increase to all inns is less prone to dev error/bugs, and will prevent a huge swarm of players begging for an inn buff like they beg for tents. Please offer your criticisms, it's very interesting to see what people think!

+2

From a HC point of view, we would all be better off hanging around in the closest inn, because then we'll be with people at a similar level, making it easier to trade. If you have to go back to Goldshire / XRoads, then the level range is too large for trading to occur.

[Selivanyro]

Tents were soooo entertaining... now GS and XR are a pity sight
Undo change please )

[Samsara]

Just get creative with the stacking


I am in favor of better inn rested xp for rp immersion and convenience, and as other mentioned its also better for HC leveling. Tents stacking was quirky but it's not a make or break feature of what makes Turtle WoW Turtle WoW imo. I just wish they didn't remove the faction graphics out of them, the horde tents still look cool but the ally ones are bland and boring visually. Also too low hanging for comfortable camera panning while underneath. I might finally give survival a go now that tents are useful in the wild and I will enjoy using inns for their true purpose as far as lore goes.

[Selivanyro]

Devs everytime you simplify feautures you kill game and makes it more stupid and less interesting.