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New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:08 pm
by Akalix
Greetings!
We have an update to share with everyone about our queue prioritization system, which will be in effect upon the next restart.
Our new queue system provides priority for our English community on our Turtle EU realm. As we have multiple new, lively realms launched in the SEA region, we have developed this system with the concept in mind that our Turtle EU realm is primarily for our English community, and our Turtle Asia network is primarily for our CN community.
We will continue to tweak this system as needed in the future, however, we expect that it will solve many issues veteran players have been facing.
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:17 pm
by Crunshy1512
EU 2 WHEN
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:28 pm
by Reploidrocsa
EU queue hype
EU queue hype
EU queue hype
EU queue hype
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:30 pm
by Sunsdude
Sounds great, we'll see how it'll work tomorrow
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:33 pm
by Lithonil
A welcome change. Keep up the good work.
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:28 pm
by Blackduck
finally something that might actually have an effect on queues. thank you
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:22 pm
by Bahamutxd
How does it work? It measures ping or checks for accoun info or...?
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:43 pm
by Reploidrocsa
Bahamutxd wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:22 pm
How does it work? It measures ping or checks for accoun info or...?
better not asking how it works, otherwise people will try to skip it. AFAIK people from EU, NA, LATAM and AUS are considered English comunity
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:53 pm
by Harkus
Reploidrocsa wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:43 pm
Bahamutxd wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:22 pm
How does it work? It measures ping or checks for accoun info or...?
better not asking how it works, otherwise people will try to skip it. AFAIK people from EU, NA, LATAM and AUS are considered English comunity
Agreed!
Thank you Turtle team and I look forward to trying it out tomorrow
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:08 pm
by Sicvikki
Super happy I may be able to log in the mornings again instead of waiting until the afternoon
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:14 pm
by Jolikmc
There is no solution to this problem that isn't extreme, but extreme solutions come with extreme consequences. With the vague wording of the post, it sounds like this new system sounds like it could unfairly punish players purely based on their region. Therefore, I have many questions.
Firstly, if it specifically looks for an "English-speaking" IP address, what's to stop anyone from spoofing their country via VPN software to get an "English-speaking country" spot in the new queue? Is there something in the software that can somehow detect VPN? If so, how does that affect the VPN user's connection to the server? Me, personally? I'd consider mass-blocking all VPNs, or at least put people using them into a "low priority" queue of some kind. But I mean, not every VPN can even be detected (allegedly), so…
Also, what countries or regions are affected by this new change? There are plenty of players who speak perfect English, but live outside of what one would consider "English-speaking countries". Some of these players even interact with the community, right here on these forums, and are very lovely people.
Lastly… how does the new system work with the "veteran player" queue system? Does it stack? I'd imagine it would have to, considering this new queue is supposed to kick on if it detects an "English-speaking" IP address.
Just some things to think about. Thank you.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:34 pm
by Whalemilk
Can you provide more in depth details of how the actions you guys have taken have affected the EU server?
Can you provide us with the number of characters transferred from the EU server to the SEA server since it became available?
Although there is still a queue, is there any data showing that Chinese activity in the EU server has slowed?
Any other data would be appreciated.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:36 pm
by Charanko
Nice will try it out tomorrow… any news on pvp server? :D
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:00 am
by Luqj
Dear turtle teams, I am a player from China.
Please consider to cancel this strict and even unfair rule after no so many queues or a certain time. Especially we found we still need to queue even there is enough rooms in the realm last night restart(only 6k online).
We indeed understand the original English players’ frustrations and disappointments of the flooding CN players, besides the pure players(like us),there are many making-money studios and gold farmers, canceling hanzi support will make them go, the noob areas are much quiet now. We pure players only want to play games, mostly 1~2 hours per day, why do not go back to CN realms? Because we suffered a lot in the past time, future maybe but at this stage we don’t.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:25 am
by Karrados
Luqj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:00 am
Dear turtle teams, I am a player from China.
Please consider to cancel this strict and even unfair rule after no so many queues or a certain time. Especially we found we still need to queue even there is enough rooms in the realm last night restart(only 6k online).
We indeed understand the original English players’ frustrations and disappointments of the flooding CN players, besides the pure players(like us),there are many making-money studios and gold farmers, canceling hanzi support will make them go, the noob areas are much quiet now. We pure players only want to play games, mostly 1~2 hours per day, why do not go back to CN realms? Because we suffered a lot in the past time, future maybe but at this stage we don’t.
Unfair? You know what is unfair? That the Chinese are going to have 3 Realms for themself yet they still feel as if they have some kind of ownership of the European realm.
You can remain and play, no one will force you away from the Realm but the priority should be with the people that do not have 3 server for themself.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:43 am
by Luqj
Karrados wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:25 am
Luqj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:00 am
Dear turtle teams, I am a player from China.
Please consider to cancel this strict and even unfair rule after no so many queues or a certain time. Especially we found we still need to queue even there is enough rooms in the realm last night restart(only 6k online).
We indeed understand the original English players’ frustrations and disappointments of the flooding CN players, besides the pure players(like us),there are many making-money studios and gold farmers, canceling hanzi support will make them go, the noob areas are much quiet now. We pure players only want to play games, mostly 1~2 hours per day, why do not go back to CN realms? Because we suffered a lot in the past time, future maybe but at this stage we don’t.
Unfair? You know what is unfair? That the Chinese are going to have 3 Realms for themself yet they still feel as if they have some kind of ownership of the European realm.
You can remain and play, no one will force you away from the Realm but the priority should be with the people that do not have 3 server for themself.
Dude, the opening new realms is because of large CN players and its commercial reason. Turtles want to open another English realm but mostly of you deny it. What I said is why we need to queue even if the realm has rooms? Can’t we say it is unfair? We also spent time and money for this realm.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:48 am
by Jongyi
Hello, dev team.
I am an Asian player but no a chinese, but a Southeast asian, and have been playing in Turtle over a year long before mass chinese migration. I have been part of EU community and i cannot speak chinese.
I am curious how my ques will be affected by this. Or will I still get 'asian' treatment.
Been a big fun of your work so far anyway. Thanks.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:18 am
by Melons222222
One suggestion, if you Turtlewow Team could create the queue mechanism by ordering it with account players level sum?
such us: one account has two players, level 60 and level 25. And it will got total level 85 in queue.
No doubtly, my suggestion is just one way in your complex queue system parameters.
And if there are twowers who own many accounts, they could bind two account together at most, then only one of them can be online at same time.
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:12 am
by Neologin
Jolikmc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:14 pm
There is no solution to this problem that isn't extreme, but extreme solutions come with extreme
consequences. With the vague wording of the post, it sounds like this new system sounds like it could unfairly punish players purely based on their region. Therefore, I have many questions.
Firstly, if it specifically looks for an "English-speaking" IP address, what's to stop anyone from spoofing their country via VPN software to get an "English-speaking country" spot in the new queue? Is there something in the software that can somehow
detect VPN? If so, how does that affect the VPN user's connection to the server? Me, personally? I'd consider mass-blocking
all VPNs, or at least put people using them into a "low priority" queue of some kind. But I mean, not every VPN can even
be detected (allegedly), so…
Also, what countries or regions are affected by this new change? There are plenty of players who speak perfect English, but live outside of what one would consider "English-speaking countries". Some of these players even interact with the community, right here on these forums, and are very lovely people.
Lastly… how does the new system work with the "veteran player" queue system? Does it stack? I'd imagine it would have to, considering this new queue is supposed to kick on if it detects an "English-speaking" IP address.
Just some things to think about. Thank you.
Of course, using VPN can deceive verification，no doubt
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:32 am
by Sunsdude
Luqj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:43 am
What I said is why we need to queue even if the realm has rooms?
What queue? Yesterday right after restart the server was instantly full at 10k people with 1.5k queue and it persisted for some time. Didn't take a screenshot, but when the server pop was around 7k, '.s info' showed queue of around 30-40 people. The system is probably bugged and you are rightfully annoyed, but wasn't it something bearable?
Also, you are not restricted from playing on eu realm.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:02 am
by Piccadilly
I think the queue rework works well. I managed to log in instantly, even though .server info said 260 were queued.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:06 am
by Krotux
maybe just limit it to china, because there's a lot of expats and just non-chinese that integrate well with the western communities.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:28 am
by Mativh
Excellent, thank you for the update.
The dev team is overcoming challenges that nobody expected in a very skillful and rational manner, it is all a great feat needless to say. It was done when the time was right, neither sooner nor later.
As will be any further steps that will ensure the integrity (& prosperity) of Turtle WoW, as it has always been, I'm certain.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:43 am
by Holyhorrorr
It works like a charm it seems <3
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:57 am
by Blackduck
I am asian but I log in fine because I live in America so there is nothing racist about the queue.
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:11 am
by Matheusribef
Awesome!!! I was wondering why i got in game so fast today, then i came to the forum and saw this post... Now everything is clear :)
But it makes sense though, Asia has 4 server while we got one, so thats fair enough to do a prior queue for us and avoid overpopulation on EU realm due to high queues on Asia. But i hope the 2 new servers fix this overpopulation in Asia so we all can play :)
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:15 am
by Zvhdd
There's a simple solution to this:
Run an English test before each login.
This would perfectly serve the purpose to ban non-English speaking users
And also rank the queue priority based on Toefl score
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:47 am
by Fakyr
Im from southamerica but wans't having problems with the english and lag, but after last night's patch my acc was blocked and I don't know why . . .
Edit; my acc was "restored" now Im having queues of 150 people(that I never have) but thats good
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:57 am
by Jongyi
Update!
Despite living in Southeast Asian country, I was able to log in pretty quickly this evening which haven't happen for quite a while. Thanks, devs!
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:10 pm
by Piccadilly
Zvhdd wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:15 am
There's a simple solution to this:
Run an English test before each login.
This would perfectly serve the purpose to ban non-English speaking users
And also rank the queue priority based on Toefl score
Than can be outsmarted pretty easily with a translator or ChatGPT.
Re: 2023 — September 17 Queue Update
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:10 pm
by Choosingname
Lithonil wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:33 pm
A welcome change. Keep up the good work.
+1
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:32 pm
by Hamalam
HYPE! This is nice to hear :)
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:37 pm
by Caixianlee
i come from middle east
which serve should i go?
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:41 pm
by Harkus
Caixianlee wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:37 pm
i come from middle east
which serve should i go?
Assuming you speak English, EU :D
Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:01 pm
by Mynamewastaken
The new system works great!
