Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

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Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:13 pm

Are you a casual player that likes to pvp and play WSG/AB and perhaps do a few dungeons but don’t want to fight Naxx geared players with a fresh/dungeon geared 60?
Perhaps you have no interest in raiding or playing all day without breaks to get the pvp gear?

Consider locking your exp at level 49.

Twinking at level 49 is a lot more washed out than level 19 and 29 where you are basically a raid boss for regular players.
So you can compete and still have fun even if you don’t have the very best items yet.

But I would advise you to only join WSG/AB at level 46+ or else you will have problems with resists.

You get most of your gear from doing regular dungeons around your level like Uldaman, Maraudon, Zul'farrak, Sunken Temple and early Blackrock Depths bosses.
The new dungeon Gilneas City has some decent items as well.

It's very alt friendly because of that, so you can get very varied gameplay.
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Carroyo92 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:23 pm

we can stop gain xp in turtle wow?

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:29 pm

Carroyo92 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:23 pm
we can stop gain xp in turtle wow?
Right click your character portrait and click Experience: Enabled
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Thewowtraveller » Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:27 am

Thanks Annoying, this was very helpful for what i'm looking for.

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:30 am

One important thing is that players of 49 lvl have more means to farm gold compared to lvl 19.
On 19 you inevitably have to make donor character of high level to buy enchants.

Enchants don't give absolute advantage. Your normal gear can provide good stats.

Players of 49 lvl also has mounts. I mean normal mounts with 60% speed, because turtle on low lvl is a joke.
There are also plate for warriors, mail for shamans and hunters. Dire bear form for druids.
Also there is access to final talent in each tree like Mortal Strike, Holy Shock, Shadowform and other stuff.

Ability to stop xp is great option for non-twinks, which allows normal players to prepare for fights by themselves.

Are there any websites about builds and gear for 40-49?
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:37 am

Xudo wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:30 am
Are there any websites about builds and gear for 40-49?
I found these sites for gear:
https://www.wowclassicbis.com/twink/warrior/49
https://xpoff.com/threads/twink-guides.91738/

Turtle WoW also have some nice custom options when it comes to gear.
Like from Hateforge Quarry instance, quests and boe (bind on equip) items that you can buy from the Auction House.

List of custom TW quests level 40+ with their rewards, press "next" to see more quests and rewards.
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?quests=-44#700+3+1+2
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:22 pm

I believe that with addition of Crescent Grove, list of possible items could change.

According to https://vanilla-wow-archive.fandom.com/ ... ystem#Rank
it is possible to reach rank 9 on lvl 49, but there are no rank 9 PvP gear for this level except reputational. It would be cool, if turtle devs add 48 lvl version of Blood Guard/Knight-Lieutenant and Legionnaire/Knight-Captain gear
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I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Bloodline1x9 » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:05 pm

Annoying wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:13 pm
Are you a casual player that likes to pvp and play WSG/AB and perhaps do a few dungeons but don’t want to fight Naxx geared players with a fresh/dungeon geared 60?
Perhaps you have no interest in raiding or playing all day without breaks to get the pvp gear?

Consider locking your exp at level 49.

Twinking at level 49 is a lot more washed out than level 19 and 29 where you are basically a raid boss for regular players.
So you can compete and still have fun even if you don’t have the very best items yet.

But I would advise you to only join WSG/AB at level 46+ or else you will have problems with resists.

You get most of your gear from doing regular dungeons around your level like Uldaman, Maraudon, Zul'farrak, Sunken Temple and early Blackrock Depths bosses.

It's very alt friendly because of that, so you can get very varied gameplay.
I once queued for WSG and Arathi at level 48. WSG started and there was only 5x6. It was boring because there were too few people. I don't like WSG much at all. I wanted on Arathi, but not enough people for BG

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Ugoboom » Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:15 pm

Annoying wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:13 pm
Consider locking your exp at level 49.
I was indeed in the 49 twinking community for classic. For meele, indeed the meele gear and weapons for this bracket are pretty not twinky at all. Exe cleaver was the best 49 2hander and it was a 43 blue.

But casters had eye of flame, ST random roll drops to get very very twinked at this level.

Thing is that the 49 twinking scene was ungodly tiny compared to 19 29 and 39. On this server we can barely get a 19s scene going.
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:44 am

Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Thing is that the 49 twinking scene was ungodly tiny compared to 19 29 and 39. On this server we can barely get a 19s scene going.
PvP is very active on Sunday and Saturday. Last saturday there were warsong of each bracket except 2-9 simultaneously.

Best thing to make regular events is to schedule them and advertise its time in all possible channels without spam.
Something like "we assembling dungeon run to get gear for 40-49, but if there will be enough people, we'll go bg".
Xudo - tauren warrior 19 Sergeant armory.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:06 am

Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:15 pm
I was indeed in the 49 twinking community for classic. For meele, indeed the meele gear and weapons for this bracket are pretty not twinky at all. Exe cleaver was the best 49 2hander and it was a 43 blue.

But casters had eye of flame, ST random roll drops to get very very twinked at this level.

Thing is that the 49 twinking scene was ungodly tiny compared to 19 29 and 39. On this server we can barely get a 19s scene going.
Sure a pom pyro mage could probably be very strong fully twinked and enchanted.
I haven't encountered any of those yet myself, but I guess you would have to hope for a decent priest on your team or gather some fire resistance gear turtle_tongue_head

We do get games every day, so it's not like it's completely dead. But bgs in general aren't very popular here sadly.

I have two alts for 10-19 and 20-29 (plan to get them to 49 eventually) and those brackets are fun as long as one side doesn't get a twink as the opposite side then often gives up and it's very hard to win even if you try.
That is not the case with 40-49.

30-39 was super fun for me, but I decided to go 40-49 to get a little more talent points + mount.
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Hauntingsforum » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 pm

Thanks for that idea i was wondering how to go about the full geared players in BG´s. Will try this one out for sure. Also didnt know about the xp thing.

Have a great one and see u in the next battle! <3

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:30 am

I am curious. Why didn't you choose 50-59?
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:42 am

Xudo wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:30 am
I am curious. Why didn't you choose 50-59?
Well I figured 40-49 would be easier to level and gear up alts for (at least for something decent).
For 50-59 I would have to farm ZG rep and I'm not a big fan of ZG (for the class set), and a lot of gold for the 0.5 class quest chain.
And I thought that most people level 51+ would just queue AV and not WSG/AB.
I'm not a big fan of AV, plus I would have to fight Naxx/AQ40 players there.
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:22 pm

How is the situation with paladins on 40-49?
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:34 pm

Xudo wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:22 pm
How is the situation with paladins on 40-49?
I haven't played against them myself yet (just dinged level 40 on my horde alt).
But it's not auto win just because you have paladins.

Shamans on the other hand are very strong, luckily there are nature res gear from Maraudon etc that you can get turtle_tongue_head
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Ugoboom » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:16 pm

I stand corrected i'm seeing an awful lot of 40-49 pops recently.

Stick to it 49 twink chads
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Xudo » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:51 pm

Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:15 pm
I was indeed in the 49 twinking community for classic. For meele, indeed the meele gear and weapons for this bracket are pretty not twinky at all. Exe cleaver was the best 49 2hander and it was a 43 blue.
Exe cleaver https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=13018 has 41.8 DPS
But there is Kang the Decapitator https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=2291 with 47.4 DPS
and turtle introduced Dar\'kar of the Third Khan https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60885 from magram centaurs reputation with 51.7 DPS
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Ugoboom » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:08 pm

Aha, you have fallen for the noob trap of thinking DPS is better, and not topend. With the 23 str and 1 hit, exe cleave has a much harder topend, plus doesn't have a CC breaking useless dot proc. in the 49s bracket we could always tell who was a pro by if they used kang or cleaver.

But yes i forgor about the centaurs stuff. The darkar is by and away bis, that thing is like a 55 blue. Very based and twinkpilled.
Zaas - 60 High Elf Warrior
Saere - 60 Night Elf Priest
Splendra - 59 Inferno Mode Warlock
I play a few other classes on my friends' accounts.
Slowly leveling a Resto Dryad and a dorf pally with my buddy.

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Re: Early Endgame for Casual PvPers.

Post by Annoying » Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:40 pm

I just formed the guild <Early Endgame> in case anyone wants to join (both factions). Whisper Khrey or anyone in the guild for an invitation.
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