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by Akalix » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:05 pm
- You can no longer enter battlegrounds while you are in combat if PvP flagged to prevent abusing battleground queues to escape fights with other players unharmed.
- Fixed mobs not being able to blink on inclined terrain.
- All mobs summoned by Wind Stones should finally no longer get stuck.
- Dig Rat will no longer put you in permanent combat.
- Added extra land mines on the inside of the horde base wall in AV to prevent players from jumping over it.
- Race Against Time should no longer fail if the objective is completed before the timer runs out.
- The Cleaner will now teleport Hardcore players away instead of instakilling them.
- Righteous Fury is now undispelable.
- Added missing mailbox at Splintertree Outpost.
- Added a very long cooldown to Scroll of Return to prevent abuse.
- Fixed Rommath becoming permanently uninteractable.
- Bebri Coifcurl should no longer be attackable.
- Loatheb's Corrupted Mind will now prevent using Holy Shock.
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
- You can now trade Armor Scraps, Storm Crystals and Stormpike Soldier's Blood to other players inside AV.
- The default loot method in battlegrounds is now free for all, so that everyone can loot killed mobs in AV, instead of a random person nearby.
Edit: This change has been reverted due to issues with Korrak's loot distribution.
- Updated drop rate of Idol of Death to match all the other idols, increasing it from 0.4% to 1%.
- Fixed A-Me 01 respawning at the end of the escort instead of the start position.
- The Great Banana Conspiracy has been discovered and brought to an end.
- Fixed the hard buff limit purging buffs and consumables, the buff limit should function as it did before.
The following changes comprise the now-implemented Economy Update, Part 2
- Resource nodes for Gromsblood, Icecap, Mountain Silversage, Black Lotus, Dreamfoil, Golden Sansam, Grave Moss, Arthas' Tears, Ghost Mushroom, Firebloom, Wintersbite, Small Thorium Vein, Rich Thorium Vein, Truesilver Deposit and Mithril Deposits now have a dynamic spawn system, causing them to respawn faster in accordance to often they are harvested in a period of time. Resource nodes found inside instances are exempt from this system.
- Whip Lasher's drop chances for Golden Sansam, Arthas' Tears, Swiftthistle, Dreamfoil, Firebloom, Gromsblood and Sungrass has been increased from approximately 1.7% to 4%. In addition to this, Whip Lashers now have a 4% chance to drop Mountain Silversage, Plaguebloom and Icecap.
- To compensate for this, Lasher Root, Thorny Vine and Serrated sell prices have been reduced to 8s64c, 10s23c and 12s28c respectively.
- Majority of creatures found in Zul'Gurub are now immune to roots and slowing effects. This excludes Speakers, Soulflayers, Atal'ai Mistresses, Withered Mistresses, Voodoo Slave, Sacrificed Trolls, Bloodseeker Bats, Razzashi Skitterer, Razzashi Broodwidow, Corrupted Infernals (Summoned by Voodoo Slave) and Sons of Hakkar.
- Zulian Crocolisks now cast Pierce Armor to prevent them from being solo farmed.
- Increased the drop chance of the following items to 80%: Snickerfang Jowl, Vulture Gizzard, Scorpok Pincer, Blasted Boar Lung, Basilisk Brain.
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by Jstansberry » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:46 pm
Akalix wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:05 pm
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
RIP enhancement shamans
. Woulda been nice if they waited until class changes 2 to change this but it was technically a bug so it is what it is.
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by Zvyrhol » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:10 pm
Akalix wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:05 pm
- The default loot method in battlegrounds is now free for all, so that everyone can loot killed mobs in AV, instead of a random person nearby.
I hope it doesn't apply to Korrak's loot. You know, the devil is in the detail.
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by Darktifa » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:18 pm
Czasku wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:31 pm
After Reading Turtle WoW's forum i understood why Blizzard stopped responding on their own forum topics.
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by Zvyrhol » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:27 pm
Akalix wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:05 pm
- You can now trade Armor Scraps, Storm Crystals and Stormpike Soldier's Blood to other players inside AV.
Wow, this is my forum suggestion. I'm glad the Team learns from mistakes since last AV backdoor fix incident.
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by Slashignore » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:56 pm
most of these changes is not needed on the pvp server tho.
not the dynamic herb spawn at least .
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by Iansdec10 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:57 pm
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
This totally kills the playstile, unless it comes with total class changes. If not, it's just a lie that you can thrive as a enhancement shaman, making the tree basically a leveling tree.
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by Zvyrhol » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:01 pm
Biteyou wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:36 pm
Can you explain how ZG is a
raw gold farm?
I wonder too. I thought people farm crocs for Bijous and Coins. These don't generate raw gold.
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by Rafale » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:57 pm
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
This totally kills the playstile, unless it comes with total class changes. If not, it's just a lie that you can thrive as a enhancement shaman, making the tree basically a leveling tree.
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
I always follow those rules for suggestion :
1) Does it answer the class/spec problem ?
2) Does it keep the class identity ?
3) Does it keep the vanilla gameplay of the class/spec ?
4) Is it balanced (not OP) ?
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by Kharkov72 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 pm
Rafale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:57 pm
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
This totally kills the playstile, unless it comes with total class changes. If not, it's just a lie that you can thrive as a enhancement shaman, making the tree basically a leveling tree.
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
While it may have been a bug, it did make Enhance much more enjoyable in raiding. Having that additional hit meant that you had more say in watching your threat as you could save the longer cooldown one for when it was good, to improving your dps via the totem that sometimes increases haste on your Stormstrike. If one procced it, there could be a decent argument for saving the other for when it dropped, and if it didn't proc, you had another chance. Yes, it's a bug, but it was somewhat important for a lot of serious Enhancement shamans.
Since it wasn't causing any major problems, and was only making the spec a bit more fun and viable, perhaps this bug could simply be made into a feature, until the point where the class changes are finalized?
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by Cyni » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:52 pm
Biteyou wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:36 pm
Can you explain how ZG is a
raw gold farm?
Did they say that ZG bijous and coins is a raw gold farm?
I didn't think so.
The problem there was that people were solo farming huge amounts of bijous and coins from the crocs/panthers/tigers, and making even more money doing so than almost anyone with lasher farming. You want to farm bijous and coins? Go ahead and do so, you just need to get like 2 or 3 people more to help you. This is only an issue for nitwits with no friends to farm with.
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by Biteyou » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:11 am
Cyni wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:52 pm
Biteyou wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:36 pm
Can you explain how ZG is a
raw gold farm?
Did they say that ZG bijous and coins is a raw gold farm?
I didn't think so.
The problem there was that people were solo farming huge amounts of bijous and coins from the crocs/panthers/tigers, and making even more money doing so than almost anyone with lasher farming. You want to farm bijous and coins? Go ahead and do so, you just need to get like 2 or 3 people more to help you. This is only an issue for nitwits with no friends to farm with.
We can discuss this without calling eachother nitwits with no friends.
"Have nerfed several sources of raw gold farming". Nowhere did they make an exception of this statement not to include ZG farms.
It's an overall neutral source of gold farming, just makes gold exchange hands. It's not the source of the problem, besides possibly gold sellers using it to farm and sell gold. This was the difference between the lashers farm and ZG farm. Lashers introduced raw gold into the economy, making up 17% of all raw gold in the game according to their analysis.
To add to this, how is this any different than DME now that you can farm herbs exclusively by yourself there instead of the raw gold? Seems like the change is only shifting the meta of solo farming to entirely DME.
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by Iansdec10 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:55 am
Enhancement shamans has a bug that they use both stormstrike ranks for dpsing, making the class viable, should we increment it into the game? NOOO, let's just get rid of it and make all shamans deadweight!
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by Adesta13 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:40 am
The Cleaner will now teleport Hardcore players away instead of instakilling them.
It's not abuse for Inferno (HC) hunters?
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by Ransin950 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:18 am
"To compensate for this, Lasher Root, Thorny Vine and Serrated sell prices have been reduced to 8s64c, 10s23c and 12s28c respectively."
I think their selling price should be 4s,5s,6s
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by Hungry9 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:38 am
Disgusting weakening, may I ask which administrator system has played enhanced shamans? High hatred, low output, no AOE damage. Not only has it not been resolved, but also Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown has been added. I feel ashamed for you all.
The paladins and warriors in Turtle World of Warcraft have already been so OPEN, and I haven't seen you balancing yet. If you believe that two levels of storm strikes are incorrect, then please continue to improve and enhance the shaman. This meaningless balance will only bring fewer shaman players.
I am looking forward to 40 paladins or 40 warriors playing dungeons together
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by Imonobor » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:23 am
Akalix wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:05 pm
- The default loot method in battlegrounds is now free for all, so that everyone can loot killed mobs in AV, instead of a random person nearby.
Edit: This change has been reverted due to issues with Korrak's loot distribution.
It would be so nice if there was a loot mode that made everything below a certain threshold (white and grey items) FFA, while still rolling for green+. And I mean not just in AV.
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by Weiro7 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:30 pm
Kharkov72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 pm
Rafale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:57 pm
- Ranks 1 and 2 of Stormstrike will now share cooldown.
This totally kills the playstile, unless it comes with total class changes. If not, it's just a lie that you can thrive as a enhancement shaman, making the tree basically a leveling tree.
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
While it may have been a bug, it did make Enhance much more enjoyable in raiding. Having that additional hit meant that you had more say in watching your threat as you could save the longer cooldown one for when it was good, to improving your dps via the totem that sometimes increases haste on your Stormstrike. If one procced it, there could be a decent argument for saving the other for when it dropped, and if it didn't proc, you had another chance. Yes, it's a bug, but it was somewhat important for a lot of serious Enhancement shamans.
Since it wasn't causing any major problems, and was only making the spec a bit more fun and viable, perhaps this bug could simply be made into a feature, until the point where the class changes are finalized?
Extra instant attack for more damage and procs may be more fun for the shammy using it, but in PvP being on the receiving end of the burst it certainly isn't fun
People have to remember PvP balance, too..
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by Hungry9 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:05 pm
Weiro7 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:30 pm
Kharkov72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 pm
Rafale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
While it may have been a bug, it did make Enhance much more enjoyable in raiding. Having that additional hit meant that you had more say in watching your threat as you could save the longer cooldown one for when it was good, to improving your dps via the totem that sometimes increases haste on your Stormstrike. If one procced it, there could be a decent argument for saving the other for when it dropped, and if it didn't proc, you had another chance. Yes, it's a bug, but it was somewhat important for a lot of serious Enhancement shamans.
Since it wasn't causing any major problems, and was only making the spec a bit more fun and viable, perhaps this bug could simply be made into a feature, until the point where the class changes are finalized?
Extra instant attack for more damage and procs may be more fun for the shammy using it, but in PvP being on the receiving end of the burst it certainly isn't fun
People have to remember PvP balance, too..
Are you talking about PVP with a shaman who doesn't even have control skills?
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by Hungry9 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:10 pm
Enhance the current status of Shaman PVE: Place totems every twelve seconds and then look at them like fools
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by Kharkov72 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:33 pm
Weiro7 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:30 pm
Kharkov72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 pm
Rafale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
While it may have been a bug, it did make Enhance much more enjoyable in raiding. Having that additional hit meant that you had more say in watching your threat as you could save the longer cooldown one for when it was good, to improving your dps via the totem that sometimes increases haste on your Stormstrike. If one procced it, there could be a decent argument for saving the other for when it dropped, and if it didn't proc, you had another chance. Yes, it's a bug, but it was somewhat important for a lot of serious Enhancement shamans.
Since it wasn't causing any major problems, and was only making the spec a bit more fun and viable, perhaps this bug could simply be made into a feature, until the point where the class changes are finalized?
Extra instant attack for more damage and procs may be more fun for the shammy using it, but in PvP being on the receiving end of the burst it certainly isn't fun
People have to remember PvP balance, too..
I did think about that, and lowering the rank 2 cooldown instead, but like the flourish change, it requires a clientside update while the rest is serverside, which makes it unappealing to just lower the cooldown on rank 2 to 8 seconds, which would make up for the "lost" stormstrikes from the fix. Totally agree though.
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by Chudman123 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:51 am
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:55 am
Enhancement shamans has a bug that they use both stormstrike ranks for dpsing, making the class viable, should we increment it into the game? NOOO, let's just get rid of it and make all shamans deadweight!
I promise you that class changes 2.0 will make you happy as an enh.
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by Sweetkitty » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:54 am
Weiro7 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:30 pm
Kharkov72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:19 pm
Rafale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:08 pm
You know that was a big bug and you are not supposed to be able to bypass the cd of an ability by using lower rank ?
While it may have been a bug, it did make Enhance much more enjoyable in raiding. Having that additional hit meant that you had more say in watching your threat as you could save the longer cooldown one for when it was good, to improving your dps via the totem that sometimes increases haste on your Stormstrike. If one procced it, there could be a decent argument for saving the other for when it dropped, and if it didn't proc, you had another chance. Yes, it's a bug, but it was somewhat important for a lot of serious Enhancement shamans.
Since it wasn't causing any major problems, and was only making the spec a bit more fun and viable, perhaps this bug could simply be made into a feature, until the point where the class changes are finalized?
Extra instant attack for more damage and procs may be more fun for the shammy using it, but in PvP being on the receiving end of the burst it certainly isn't fun
People have to remember PvP balance, too..
If we are are going to talk about pvp let's talk about how insanely OP paladins still are able to kill anyone in seconds with them not being able to move o.O
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by Hungry9 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:17 pm
Chudman123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:51 am
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:55 am
Enhancement shamans has a bug that they use both stormstrike ranks for dpsing, making the class viable, should we increment it into the game? NOOO, let's just get rid of it and make all shamans deadweight!
I promise you that class changes 2.0 will make you happy as an enh.
Why did you say this? I just feel hopeless now
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by Chudman123 » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:38 pm
Hungry9 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:17 pm
Chudman123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:51 am
Iansdec10 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:55 am
Enhancement shamans has a bug that they use both stormstrike ranks for dpsing, making the class viable, should we increment it into the game? NOOO, let's just get rid of it and make all shamans deadweight!
I promise you that class changes 2.0 will make you happy as an enh.
Why did you say this? I just feel hopeless now
I think you will get another attack ability
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by Hungry9 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:13 pm
I don't expect to receive the shaman version of Holy Strike, but you can't let me cast a Storm Strike every 12 seconds, can you? And then watch as the Wind Fury weapon waits?