Fix your GMs

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Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:48 pm

Do thing, get banned in-game with no whisper from GM, appeal and a few days later the first reply is: "Greetings! We have concluded the investigation of your ban and concluded that it was issued incorrectly. The ban has been lifted".

Okay, so I did nothing wrong. Do thing again, get banned after I log out, appeal and again get the "Greetings! We have concluded the investigation of your ban and concluded that it was issued incorrectly. The ban has been lifted".

Okay, the GMs are showing themselves to be a bit silly on this. Do thing again, surely they must have communicated/educated the team about this now. Nope, get banned in-game again with no whisper from GM.

Appeal, but this time "This is your 3rd strike for doing this."

Me: ???

You don't delete the record of the bans you admittedly "issued incorrectly"??

Ban now done by some senior GM, so the appeal is sent to management. It has been two weeks and nothing has happened.

Can you just get your things together?

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If someone below says: "Just message Akalix"
Then no, because this is above Akalix.

And if some GM wants to discuss this then do it in my DMs.

EDIT: This post is meant for staff. If you're not staff, don't write below, and if you're staff, write a DM.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Darktifa » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:44 pm

Out of curiosity, why are they banning you?
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:47 pm

Darktifa wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:44 pm
Out of curiosity, why are they banning you?
Because they have no idea what they are doing.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Ataika » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:49 pm

Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:47 pm
Darktifa wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:44 pm
Out of curiosity, why are they banning you?
Because they have no idea what they are doing.
What "thing"" you "did again" ?

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm

I am not going to give forum users any ideas.

And the post shouldn't be about that. It's about how absolutely inappropriately GMs are handling things, like not deleting the record of a ban after it has been admitted to be incorrect and then lifted.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Dracarusggotham » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:56 pm

Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm
I am not going to give forum users any ideas.

And the post shouldn't be about that. It's about how absolutely inappropriately GMs are handling things, like not deleting the record of a ban after it has been admitted to be incorrect and then lifted.
If we don't know why you're getting banned, we cannot help you to make this be important.
You say "I'm getting banned for the same thing", so bro, stop doing it then, that's the solution.
GM's are broken? Yeah, I don't see how them can ban someone 3 times for the same thing by error.
But use common sense, if you are getting a ban for the same thing 2 times, DON'T REPEAT IT A THIRD TIME!

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:57 pm

Dracarusggotham wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:56 pm
If we don't know why you're getting banned, we cannot help you to make this be important.
I don't need your help, thank you.

This is just for management since they read the forums more.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Ataika » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:37 pm

Dracarusggotham wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:56 pm
Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm
I am not going to give forum users any ideas.

And the post shouldn't be about that. It's about how absolutely inappropriately GMs are handling things, like not deleting the record of a ban after it has been admitted to be incorrect and then lifted.
If we don't know why you're getting banned, we cannot help you to make this be important.
You say "I'm getting banned for the same thing", so bro, stop doing it then, that's the solution.
GM's are broken? Yeah, I don't see how them can ban someone 3 times for the same thing by error.
But use common sense, if you are getting a ban for the same thing 2 times, DON'T REPEAT IT A THIRD TIME!
Why should he stop if previous bans were lifted and marked as a mistake ?

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Dracarusggotham » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:40 pm

Ataika wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:37 pm
Dracarusggotham wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:56 pm
Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm
I am not going to give forum users any ideas.

And the post shouldn't be about that. It's about how absolutely inappropriately GMs are handling things, like not deleting the record of a ban after it has been admitted to be incorrect and then lifted.
If we don't know why you're getting banned, we cannot help you to make this be important.
You say "I'm getting banned for the same thing", so bro, stop doing it then, that's the solution.
GM's are broken? Yeah, I don't see how them can ban someone 3 times for the same thing by error.
But use common sense, if you are getting a ban for the same thing 2 times, DON'T REPEAT IT A THIRD TIME!
Why should he stop if previous bans were lifted and marked as a mistake ?
Common sense, it's not too difficult to understand.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:47 pm

Dracarusggotham wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:40 pm
Common sense, it's not too difficult to understand.
Dude, it's you who lag common sense.

My only mistake is replying to people on the forum, because every time someone posts a good idea or anything important a dozen not so bright people reply. The devs don't interact, they only read, so for every good post it ends up with a few people saying good things and a magnitude more not so bright people saying wrong things. The devs can't discern which is which because they don't interact, only lurk, so most often they just end up with what they perceive to be the majority, which are often a bunch of loud, not very bright, people.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:51 pm

I am just using you right now to bring my post to the top of the recent topics. Makes more people read it and a higher change for staff to read it too.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Ataika » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:52 pm

So what exactly you are doing so shady you are constantly getting pegged by game masters ?
Share with us to not repeat your mistake.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Nablatidis » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:53 pm

Ataika wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:37 pm
Dracarusggotham wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:56 pm
Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 pm
I am not going to give forum users any ideas.

And the post shouldn't be about that. It's about how absolutely inappropriately GMs are handling things, like not deleting the record of a ban after it has been admitted to be incorrect and then lifted.
If we don't know why you're getting banned, we cannot help you to make this be important.
You say "I'm getting banned for the same thing", so bro, stop doing it then, that's the solution.
GM's are broken? Yeah, I don't see how them can ban someone 3 times for the same thing by error.
But use common sense, if you are getting a ban for the same thing 2 times, DON'T REPEAT IT A THIRD TIME!
Why should he stop if previous bans were lifted and marked as a mistake ?
What if lifting the ban was the actual mistake? We don't know and it's suspicious that he wont say what he does to continuously get banned - that leads me to believe he's doing something that is ban-worthy.

...or not. We lack any sort of context so far.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:00 pm

Keep speculating, woooooo, this is fun
Nablatidis wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:53 pm
...or not. We lack any sort of context so far.
I don't need you to reply on this post. This post is not for you. You can go read anything else

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Valadorn » Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:56 pm

After reading through everything here, I kinda hope OP stays banned.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:03 pm

^ Valadorn the AFK'er
Thank you for bumping

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Valadorn » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:22 pm

Tendies wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:03 pm
^ Valadorn the AFK'er
Thank you for bumping
This post made me laugh satisfied_turtle

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Ataika » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:37 pm

tldr op is a bot that pretends he is not a bot
prolly wont pass captcha

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:38 pm

beep boop

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Bigsmerf » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:43 pm

Can't wait to see Akalix come in and address this. Given their track record I would say it'll go pretty well.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:06 pm

Gamemaster, ban this guy for not giving the drama-thirsters what they want!

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Post by Drubarrymooer » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:07 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:43 pm
Can't wait to see Akalix come in and address this. Given their track record I would say it'll go pretty well.
LOL crying_turtle crying_turtle

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Springboards » Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:31 am

GMs are absolutely rabid here with bans/temporary warnings

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Seigar » Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:51 am

So he is still not saying what he did? Not gonna bother then.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Pepesmite » Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:01 am

Greetings! Thank you for your feedback. We will carefully review your case and if we have any questions, our representative will contact you shortly. Please note that this topic is now closed.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Akalix » Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am

Greetings.

After an in-depth review of the situation, here are our findings:

1. Safe Spotting is being clarified within the team.
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location. After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it. We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.

2. Toxicity is an ongoing trend
After your unwillingness to stop abusing the spot, and numerous messages you've sent various members of the team, we decided to take a closer look.

Dating back to November myself, I've received messages from you calling my team incompetent. In combination with your previous bans for toxicity, your outstanding Discord ban, and previous warnings you've been given, this gave us no reason to believe you would improve your conduct. Similar behavior was observed by various other GMs However, in order to gain full context, your entire ticket log was additionally pulled, where I saw numerous tickets where you thought it fitting to either insult our team or tell them how they are supposed to work as GMs.

This was until I found your ticket interactions on December 1st 2023, which included the following:
New ticket 159385 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Reportint [REDACTED]for afk in WSG. Ban him now please
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, please allow us to investigate the player, thank you for the information given.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : There are multiple players who are afk in the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : [REDACTED]is also afk
New ticket 159386 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Why didn't you ban [REDACTED]for afk?
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, [REDACTED]wasnt afk when we observe him in BG. Unfortuantly we need actual proof of someone afking for a decent time.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You're blind
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Did you even check [REDACTED]?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Both were not playing the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : They just sit there and press a button to avoid the auto-afk
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Do you have anything to say for yourself?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am fuming
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : I want to remind you to keep this chat clean and neutral. Such language will not be tolerated against a GM.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Fuck you
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can go ban me
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Trash
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am so tired of GMs knowing nothing of PvP
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can't even do that I see
Beyond the first appeal, which was accepted out of our second chance policy, and the second appeal, which was accepted as you gave details regarding the exploit which earned the ban, none of the other appeals should have been accepted and our ban appeals team will be following our guidelines on this matter more closely going forward.

Nonetheless, to give resolution to this situation, the senior support and management teams discussed the situation and have chosen to indefinitely suspend your account. This decision may be appealed in 6 months.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Bigsmerf » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:18 am

Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Greetings.

After an in-depth review of the situation, here are our findings:

1. Safe Spotting is being clarified within the team.
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location. After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it. We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.

2. Toxicity is an ongoing trend
After your unwillingness to stop abusing the spot, and numerous messages you've sent various members of the team, we decided to take a closer look.

Dating back to November myself, I've received messages from you calling my team incompetent. In combination with your previous bans for toxicity, your outstanding Discord ban, and previous warnings you've been given, this gave us no reason to believe you would improve your conduct. Similar behavior was observed by various other GMs However, in order to gain full context, your entire ticket log was additionally pulled, where I saw numerous tickets where you thought it fitting to either insult our team or tell them how they are supposed to work as GMs.

This was until I found your ticket interactions on December 1st 2023, which included the following:
New ticket 159385 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Reportint [REDACTED]for afk in WSG. Ban him now please
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, please allow us to investigate the player, thank you for the information given.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : There are multiple players who are afk in the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : [REDACTED]is also afk
New ticket 159386 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Why didn't you ban [REDACTED]for afk?
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, [REDACTED]wasnt afk when we observe him in BG. Unfortuantly we need actual proof of someone afking for a decent time.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You're blind
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Did you even check [REDACTED]?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Both were not playing the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : They just sit there and press a button to avoid the auto-afk
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Do you have anything to say for yourself?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am fuming
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : I want to remind you to keep this chat clean and neutral. Such language will not be tolerated against a GM.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Fuck you
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can go ban me
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Trash
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am so tired of GMs knowing nothing of PvP
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can't even do that I see
Beyond the first appeal, which was accepted out of our second chance policy, and the second appeal, which was accepted as you gave details regarding the exploit which earned the ban, none of the other appeals should have been accepted and our ban appeals team will be following our guidelines on this matter more closely going forward.

Nonetheless, to give resolution to this situation, the senior support and management teams discussed the situation and have chosen to indefinitely suspend your account. This decision may be appealed in 6 months.
HA, FUCKIN' CALLED IT.

Another common W from Akalix.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Dracarusggotham » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:34 am

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:18 am
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Greetings.

After an in-depth review of the situation, here are our findings:

1. Safe Spotting is being clarified within the team.
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location. After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it. We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.

2. Toxicity is an ongoing trend
After your unwillingness to stop abusing the spot, and numerous messages you've sent various members of the team, we decided to take a closer look.

Dating back to November myself, I've received messages from you calling my team incompetent. In combination with your previous bans for toxicity, your outstanding Discord ban, and previous warnings you've been given, this gave us no reason to believe you would improve your conduct. Similar behavior was observed by various other GMs However, in order to gain full context, your entire ticket log was additionally pulled, where I saw numerous tickets where you thought it fitting to either insult our team or tell them how they are supposed to work as GMs.

This was until I found your ticket interactions on December 1st 2023, which included the following:
New ticket 159385 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Reportint [REDACTED]for afk in WSG. Ban him now please
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, please allow us to investigate the player, thank you for the information given.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : There are multiple players who are afk in the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : [REDACTED]is also afk
New ticket 159386 created by Gnomestabber:425789. Message: Why didn't you ban [REDACTED]for afk?
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : Hi there, [REDACTED]wasnt afk when we observe him in BG. Unfortuantly we need actual proof of someone afking for a decent time.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You're blind
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Did you even check [REDACTED]?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Both were not playing the game
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : They just sit there and press a button to avoid the auto-afk
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Do you have anything to say for yourself?
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am fuming
[Whisp|GM] Bingledon:648316:3518359 -> Gnomestabber:425789 : I want to remind you to keep this chat clean and neutral. Such language will not be tolerated against a GM.
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Fuck you
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can go ban me
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : Trash
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : I am so tired of GMs knowing nothing of PvP
[Whisp|GM] Gnomestabber:90057:425789 -> Bingledon:3518359 : You can't even do that I see
Beyond the first appeal, which was accepted out of our second chance policy, and the second appeal, which was accepted as you gave details regarding the exploit which earned the ban, none of the other appeals should have been accepted and our ban appeals team will be following our guidelines on this matter more closely going forward.

Nonetheless, to give resolution to this situation, the senior support and management teams discussed the situation and have chosen to indefinitely suspend your account. This decision may be appealed in 6 months.
HA, FUCKIN' CALLED IT.

Another common W from Akalix.
So, the GM's made their job well?
The player was a toxic who abused a prohibited area?

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Bigsmerf » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:54 am

Dracarusggotham wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:34 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:18 am
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Greetings.

After an in-depth review of the situation, here are our findings:

1. Safe Spotting is being clarified within the team.
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location. After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it. We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.

2. Toxicity is an ongoing trend
After your unwillingness to stop abusing the spot, and numerous messages you've sent various members of the team, we decided to take a closer look.

Dating back to November myself, I've received messages from you calling my team incompetent. In combination with your previous bans for toxicity, your outstanding Discord ban, and previous warnings you've been given, this gave us no reason to believe you would improve your conduct. Similar behavior was observed by various other GMs However, in order to gain full context, your entire ticket log was additionally pulled, where I saw numerous tickets where you thought it fitting to either insult our team or tell them how they are supposed to work as GMs.

This was until I found your ticket interactions on December 1st 2023, which included the following:


Beyond the first appeal, which was accepted out of our second chance policy, and the second appeal, which was accepted as you gave details regarding the exploit which earned the ban, none of the other appeals should have been accepted and our ban appeals team will be following our guidelines on this matter more closely going forward.

Nonetheless, to give resolution to this situation, the senior support and management teams discussed the situation and have chosen to indefinitely suspend your account. This decision may be appealed in 6 months.
HA, FUCKIN' CALLED IT.

Another common W from Akalix.
So, the GM's made their job well?
The player was a toxic who abused a prohibited area?
That seems to be the conclusion to me, yep. Well, there was a mistake in which one GM didn't know a safe spot was prohibited, but this was corrected later as mentioned.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Snoodydood » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:33 am

Absolutely hilarious.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Zvyrhol » Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:19 am

At least he did something good for the server, now devs can fix this safespot.
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Drubarrymooer » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:42 pm

OMG I love it. Maybe constantly being a rude troll isn't the way to go folks. Ty Akalix!

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:35 pm

Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Greetings.
So you unlocked a locked forum post to only in bad faith try to publicly shame someone and then not even lock the post again? This should be a lesson to all players on Turtle WoW about who the people above are.

So lets go over this:
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
1. Safe Spotting is being clarified within the team.
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location. After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it. We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.
To anyone wondering this is the spot in question:
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This is not a safespot. It's one of the easiest spots in WSG to get to, easier than jumping on top of tunnel, wagon, fence, anything. Whenever you ask any good PvP'er they laugh at the notion that this is a safespot because it's not. It can be reached by any race/class combination with the easiest of jumping. You, the team, can't even explain HOW this is a safespot. Is it because you don't even know how to do it? Let me reiterate, this jump is easier than all the other jumps in WSG and you make yourselves look like fools for not knowing this.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
The GM who told you the spot you repeatedly abused was allowed was incorrect, and has been given notice not to permit that location.
It was never abuse, only one GM ever zoned in asking me how I got there. I then showed him, proving to him that it was not a safespot and he subsequently left. After that I got banned out of the blue twice with no interaction from a GM, and when I appealed the bans got lifted on first reply as they were "issued incorrectly"
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
After having multiple warnings after this that the spot was not allowed, you opted to continue using it.
This is an outright lie. I have never been warned nor have I been told it wasn't allowed until after this ban. I challenge you to prove where you have given me any such warning, if you can't that means you just lied.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
We offered to remove your ban, however you refused to stop abusing this spot while we could investigate further and implement a fix.
This is not true. Let me give the context:
First time I was banned mid WSG game out of the blue with no whisper or anything from the GM for standing in the above spot. I appealed and a few days later I receive the: "Greetings! We have concluded the investigation of your ban and concluded that it was issued incorrectly. The ban has been lifted". So I did nothing wrong.
The second time I banned for the same after I logged out, appeal and again get the "Greetings! We have concluded the investigation of your ban and concluded that it was issued incorrectly. The ban has been lifted". So again I did nothing wrong.
Now this time, third time, I again get banned right after I exit WSG, no whisper, no nothing. I then take to Discord to have someone explain why I just got banned out of the blue. Now with this context you'd expect that the ban be immediately lifted again, for the third time, because as the two previous times it was admitted to be incorrect. So I get this from Cherry Pie:

As you can see Cherry immediately says the ban is going to be lifted (because it's incorrect as the previous two times), then goes blablabla we are going to seal the area off blablabla will you voluntarily avoid going there till we have done so? I decline because why should I promise to not do something when everybody else can still do it. Well it then turns out my incorrect ban is not going to be lifted as promised, that the conversation with Cherry all along was a veiled threat so I get this:

Taking back her promise of lifting the incorrect ban out of pettiness, because some lowly player didn't say yes to her.
I talk a bit about this on the Discord and of course get banned with no warning, most likely by Cherry again.
Again, you can't even explain how it is a safespot because it isn't.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
2. Toxicity is an ongoing trend
After your unwillingness to stop abusing the spot, and numerous messages you've sent various members of the team, we decided to take a closer look.
It's not abuse. It's no different than any other spot in WSG. Even getting on top of tunnel is more difficult.
And what numerous messages "sent various members of the team"? I have pretty much only had conversations at length with you Akalix, nobody else. Distortion of the truth is becoming a theme here.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Dating back to November myself, I've received messages from you calling my team incompetent.
Yea after the first time getting banned mid game in WSG with flag, without any whisper or anything, subsequently appealing and receiving a few days later the "Greetings! We have concluded the investigation of your ban and concluded that it was issued incorrectly. The ban has been lifted", I then DM'ed you asking for an apology from the anonymous GM who griefed me and my team over such nonsense when it's incompetence to hand out incorrect bans without whispering first. You then immediately dismissed my request for an apology by assuming something untrue "Seeing you call my GM incompetent will lead me to assume you're acting in bad faith." This is incredibly immature to purposely make wrong assumptions just so you can dismiss someone.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
In combination with your previous bans for toxicity, your outstanding Discord ban, and previous warnings you've been given
What previous bans? Those by Tinyfin? We all know the reputation of that guy.
My current Discord ban? You mean the one where I talk about my ingame ban and then get banned for that?
What previous warnings? Warnings for what? Nothing.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
your entire ticket log was additionally pulled
And you did this after saying you wouldn't:

How does this reflect on you you think?
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
This was until I found your ticket interactions on December 1st 2023, which included the following: ... Bingledon
And Bingledon should never do a PvP ticket again. Lets see what happened:
These two people are AFK/refusing to play the game here:

Just seeing two people standing still there should be a red flag to anyone, there is no reason to be standing still there, with full health and never in combat, on that part of the WSG map unless you have the flag or you're protecting someone with flag. Guess what, no Horde had flag, Alliance was just running back and forth in mid unobstructed with theirs. I report the Shaman first as I should, luckily (or unluckily) Bingledon comes in before Alliance wins the game 3-0. I am there when Bingledon comes, I am observing the same things as him with my own eyes, an Alliance comes up and kills the Shaman in the picture, the shaman does nothing, but when he respawns in graveyard he WALKS back to the same nonsense spot he was standing in to AFK and it is then that Bingledon closes the ticket. I ask Bingledon why he didn't do anything, he then says he wasn't AFK because he walked back to his AFK spot after he was killed, and at this point I was so fed up with AFK'ers in BGs and GMs being utterly incompetent to do anything. I wanted to ask him "Are you blind?" as a question but I saw the same thing as him on my screen with my own two eyes as him and so there was no question. Then for stating that he is blind he immediately pulls out the "language card, show respect for my authority", so I show him what real language is and what he needed to hear. I wanted to get a temp ban in that moment because for a second I just wanted to say how things really are. Must have taken him aback when someone didn't lick his boot because it took him forever to hand out the ban. So incompetent, you will probably give me a second permaban just for saying that. Also after the temp ban was over Bingledon would close any GM ticket received from me about any legit issue or he would give some nonsense copy paste answer. It was clear he was vindictive after that.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Beyond the first appeal, which was accepted out of our second chance policy,
Because it was made by Tinyfin and you all know how that guy was?
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
and the second appeal, which was accepted as you gave details regarding the exploit which earned the ban
What exploit? I flew around a bit inside a BG and never abused it for any gain. How can you call something an exploit when no harm was ever done? Again, just distortion of the truth. I remember the ban getting immediately lifted after I explained how to do it in the appeal. Just because the appeals system takes forever to process something doesn't mean that someone was banned for something and we know your system repeatly forgets to delete record of false bans that you lift.
Akalix wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:18 am
Nonetheless, to give resolution to this situation, the senior support and management teams discussed the situation and have chosen to indefinitely suspend your account. This decision may be appealed in 6 months.
None of the management has talked to me to discuss anything. It's only you Akalix who has been talking to me and said you didn't care about it or that you were even involved in anything about it.

I haven't even received an appeal reply on my page yet or been contacted, and the first thing you do is to announce it on the FORUMS? What's wrong with you?
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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Darktifa » Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:44 pm

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After Reading Turtle WoW's forum i understood why Blizzard stopped responding on their own forum topics.

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Re: Fix your GMs

Post by Tendies » Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:50 pm

Take some screenshots before it gets removed. It's the usual response to anything true.

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