What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
Can someone explain me how match EAP ( equal attack power ): Increases your attack and casting speed by 1% is?
For example, we know : 1% increased chance to hit or crit is worth near 32 AP at Level 60 and 14 Attack Power = 1 Weapon DPS. What about attack speed and casting speed then?
If you have Boon of Niremius https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=61095 that is 2% speed is it equal by EAP with Blackhand's Breadth thats 2% crit https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=13965. Are they both EAP 64?
For example, we know : 1% increased chance to hit or crit is worth near 32 AP at Level 60 and 14 Attack Power = 1 Weapon DPS. What about attack speed and casting speed then?
If you have Boon of Niremius https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=61095 that is 2% speed is it equal by EAP with Blackhand's Breadth thats 2% crit https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=13965. Are they both EAP 64?
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
It reduces your delay between attacks. On my druid I have default 1.0 attack speed in cat. DPS (of melee attacks) is 127.8. Healing Touch cast time is 3.5 sec cast.
When I equip Boon of Niremius, then attack speed becomes 0.98 and DPS becomes 130.4. Healing touch cast time becomes 3.43 sec cast.
When I equip Boon of Niremius, then attack speed becomes 0.98 and DPS becomes 130.4. Healing touch cast time becomes 3.43 sec cast.
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I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
How much worth attackspeed is varies from class to class and on how good the rest of your gear is.
Factors like your weaponspeed vs your spells cooldown als factor in. Paladins & hunters with raptor- / holy strike in particular can mess up their rotation with too much/ too little attackspeed.
For each 100% attackspeed the swingtime/casttime gets halfed.
So lets say you have might of menethil with a 3.8 swingspeed. If you have +10% attackspeed your new swingspeed would be
3.8 / 1.1 = 3.45seconds/swing
The general consensus for most melees seems to be that an equal amount of crit outperforms an equal amount of haste, as haste only affects autohits & hits impacted by swingtimers.
For casters its a slightly different matter, as the spells base castspeed is used to calculate the new castspeed. With any cast speed reduction being applyed afterwards. Particularly druids & elemental shamans can therefore make great use out of haste
Factors like your weaponspeed vs your spells cooldown als factor in. Paladins & hunters with raptor- / holy strike in particular can mess up their rotation with too much/ too little attackspeed.
For each 100% attackspeed the swingtime/casttime gets halfed.
So lets say you have might of menethil with a 3.8 swingspeed. If you have +10% attackspeed your new swingspeed would be
3.8 / 1.1 = 3.45seconds/swing
The general consensus for most melees seems to be that an equal amount of crit outperforms an equal amount of haste, as haste only affects autohits & hits impacted by swingtimers.
For casters its a slightly different matter, as the spells base castspeed is used to calculate the new castspeed. With any cast speed reduction being applyed afterwards. Particularly druids & elemental shamans can therefore make great use out of haste
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
Im in a Rogue forum, i want to know how this affect Rogue class and specific the EAP . When i know the EAP i will know how to compare the two items. Thanks for all replaysAtreidon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:25 pmHow much worth attackspeed is varies from class to class and on how good the rest of your gear is.
Factors like your weaponspeed vs your spells cooldown als factor in. Paladins & hunters with raptor- / holy strike in particular can mess up their rotation with too much/ too little attackspeed.
For each 100% attackspeed the swingtime/casttime gets halfed.
So lets say you have might of menethil with a 3.8 swingspeed. If you have +10% attackspeed your new swingspeed would be
3.8 / 1.1 = 3.45seconds/swing
The general consensus for most melees seems to be that an equal amount of crit outperforms an equal amount of haste, as haste only affects autohits & hits impacted by swingtimers.
For casters its a slightly different matter, as the spells base castspeed is used to calculate the new castspeed. With any cast speed reduction being applyed afterwards. Particularly druids & elemental shamans can therefore make great use out of haste
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
Oh my bad, didnt check which forum it was in. For rogues im pretty certain its worse than bhb, since you have flurry up all the time (meaning your non haste items get amplified) and neither energy regen nor style dmg is impacted by haste at all. But im not deep enough into rogue to give you an exact number. (Possible exception if you hit the critcap but thats relatively unlikely without wbs)Artashir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:29 pmIm in a Rogue forum, i want to know how this affect Rogue class and specific the EAP . When i know the EAP i will know how to compare the two items. Thanks for all replaysAtreidon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:25 pmHow much worth attackspeed is varies from class to class and on how good the rest of your gear is.
Factors like your weaponspeed vs your spells cooldown als factor in. Paladins & hunters with raptor- / holy strike in particular can mess up their rotation with too much/ too little attackspeed.
For each 100% attackspeed the swingtime/casttime gets halfed.
So lets say you have might of menethil with a 3.8 swingspeed. If you have +10% attackspeed your new swingspeed would be
3.8 / 1.1 = 3.45seconds/swing
The general consensus for most melees seems to be that an equal amount of crit outperforms an equal amount of haste, as haste only affects autohits & hits impacted by swingtimers.
For casters its a slightly different matter, as the spells base castspeed is used to calculate the new castspeed. With any cast speed reduction being applyed afterwards. Particularly druids & elemental shamans can therefore make great use out of haste
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
Rogue discord has turtlewow updated excel sheet that tells how much dps you get from haste items. I dont realy get why you want to compare them to the attack power.
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
He does not want it to compare to attack power. He wants to translate every stats to attackpower and compare two items based on that.
Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
Ok but why?He does not want it to compare to attack power. He wants to translate every stats to attackpower and compare two items based on that.
Excel gives dps on each item why not compare that?
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Re: What increases your attack and casting speed by X% mean?
I tried to go into depth on this for hunter, I think much can be transferred to rogue, mainly the ideas about finding out whether some amount of haste is worth having compared to EAPed stats. Take care to replace hunter-specific relations to the rogue equivalents eg for the EAP calculations.
A transfer of haste to EAP is not possible in this sense of decontextualization. As Atreidon said, it depends on the rest of your gear.
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A transfer of haste to EAP is not possible in this sense of decontextualization. As Atreidon said, it depends on the rest of your gear.
viewtopic.php?t=11230