Turtle WoW Paladin Guide

[Unchallenged]

This isn't designed to hit EVERY single nail on the head, but a simple guide for TWoW Paladins.
- If You Have Suggestions, Drop a Comment!

--== BASIC INFO ==--
Paladins are not the fastest leveling class early on, but can make up for it towards the end, and are very versatile being able to perform all 3 group roles.
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?spells=7.2#0+2+1
Spells not listed, Holy Strike R2(8), R3(16), R4(24), R5(32), R6 (40), R7 (48), R8 (56)

--== BEST RACE ==--
PvE Melee (Tank/Ret): Human
Sword/Mace Specialization: Must have to increase your hit chance and reduce dodge/block/glance.
Note: +5 weapons skill is equal to approximately 3% chance to hit
Perception: Very good vs rogues to initiate the fight.

PvE Caster: High Elf
Arcane Meditation: Recovers 40% of mana (25% HP for non-casters) while casting (8 seconds)
Note: As a Healer this is HUGE for dungeons/raids, with less downtime in general
Enchanting Specialization: +10 Enchanting is just another benefit to the race.

PvP: Dwarf
Stoneform : While active, grants immunity to Bleed, Poison, and Disease effects. In addition, Armor increased by 10%. Lasts 8 sec.

--== TURTLE WOW NOTABLE CHANGES ==--
Turtle WoW Paladins have (3) new abilities Crusader Strike, Holy Strike and Seal of the Crusader (Judgement Affect) to proc Weapon Affects and Enchants.

Paladins should make use of (Equip adds X Damage to melee attacks) as these all trigger Judge of Wisdom (JoW). These can also CRIT based off spell crit and proc Vengeance. (List Below)

Crusader Strike - Baseline Lv 8
Holy Strike - Learned Via Trainer Quest To Defeat Elite Mob
Consecration - Baseline, Lv 20
Judge of the Crusader used to proc Weapon Affects and Enchants.
Prot Talent Shield Specialization: Restore 2% Mana When Block Occurs.
Improved Seal of Justice: 33-100% Chance To Taunt Target.
Ret Talent Seal of Command Not Unlocked Till Lv 30.

Additional Changes Can Be Seen Here:
https://turtle-wow.org/#/paladin

--== PALADIN RECOMMENDED SKILLS WHILE LEVELING ==--

Seal of Righteousness 3.4 or Faster
Seal of Command 3.5 of Slower (Only use Rank 1 To Conserve Mana, Same Weapon DMG)
Seal of Light 28
Seal of Justice (Can Skip till 3/3 in Taunt), Not used outside of taunting.
Seal of the Crusader (Skip, Till Lv 40+, If You Get Ravager because JoTC)
Judgment of the Crusader (Don't Need Till 40+ For Ravager, As JoTc procs weapon Now)
Seal of Wisdom 38

Judgement
Crusader Strike R1: Does some damage but will use most of your mana.
Holy Strike R1: Only rank you'll need leveling.
Divine Protection
Hammer of Justice
Purify
Lay on Hands
Holy Light
Flash of Light
Divine Shield
Cleanse
Hammer of Wrath
Summon Warhorse
Summon Charger
Consecration - Trained Baseline Lv 20
Blessing of Sanctuary - (If Your Prot)
Righteous Fury - (If Your Prot + Plan To Dungeon & Leveling in a group)
Redemption - (Skip - If Hardcore)
Divine Intervention - (Skip - If Hardcore)

Blessing of Protection
Blessing of Freedom
Blessing of Wisdom - Used 99.9% of The Leveling Process.
Blessing of Might - (Lv 14 Swap to Blessing of Wisdom, Don't Train Unless Plan to Dungeon A lot).

Devotion Aura - (Lv 16 Swap To Retribution Aura)
Retribution Aura - Main Aura From 16+
Concentration Aura - Main Healing Aura 22+
Train All Resist Aura - But Situational.

--== PALADIN ADDONS ==--

1. Swing Timer
https://github.com/EinBaum/SP_SwingTimer

2. No Error Sound Effects (No More "I'm not ready yet, and all that other noise").
https://github.com/mrrosh/NoErrorSounds

3. PallyPower - an easy-to-use interface that allows you set your own blessings and automatically check for missing buffs.
https://github.com/S4V4GENZ/PallyPower

4. ReckCounter - a small frame showing stored strikes from the Paladin Reckoning talent
https://github.com/satan666/ReckCounter-Fix

5. ETL - Exp Per hour/time til level addon
https://github.com/shirsig/ETL

6. Outfitter - is an equipment management addon that gives you fast access to multiple outfits.
https://github.com/CosminPOP/Outfitter

7. SuperMacro - provides a very much improved interface for macros
https://github.com/Monteo/SuperMacro

--== MACROS ==--

Example 1: Begins Auto Attack, cast CS
/script if (not PlayerFrame.inCombat) then AttackTarget() end
/cast Crusader Strike

Example 2: Begins Auto Attack, then checks for SoR, if no SoR casts SoR, else uses CS.
/script if (not PlayerFrame.inCombat) then AttackTarget() end
/script if buffed("Seal of Righteousness") then CastSpellByName("Crusader Strike") else if not buffed("Seal of Righteousness") then CastSpellByName("Seal of Righteousness") end end

Example 3: Begins Auto Attack, checks for SoR, if No SoR casts SoR, else judges JoR
/script if (not PlayerFrame.inCombat) then AttackTarget() end
/script if buffed("Seal of Righteousness") then CastSpellByName("Judgement") else if not buffed("Seal of Righteousness") then CastSpellByName("Seal of Righteousness") end end

Can edit above with different Seals etc.

--== BEST SPEC FOR LEVELING PALADIN ==--
The great thing about Vanilla Wow is the customized talent tree to allows players options to choose from, so while one spec may work for one it won't for another.

Protection Leveling Build - (No Dungeons - More Armor, NO RF Threat, More Stuns, No Taunt)
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ ... 1Y6-50UVCC
--> Stat Priorities: Int/Stam
10-14 5-Redoubt
15-19 3-Precision, 2-Toughness
20-24 1-BoS, 3-Shield Special, 1-Toughness
25-29 3-Imp Hammer, 2-Toughness
30-34 1-Holy Shield, 4-Reckoning
35-39 1-Reck, 4-1h Special
40-44 1-Argent Defender, 4-Benediction
45-49 1-Benediction, 4-Deflection
50-54 1-Deflection, 2-Pursuit, 2-Conviction
55-60 1-Conviction, 2-Imp Ret Aura, 2-Deflection, 1-Kings or 1-1h Special

Protection Leveling Build - (Yes Dungeons - lil less armor, RF Threat, Taunt)
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ ... JY6-50UVCC
--> Stat Priorities: Stam/Int
10-14 5-Redoubt
15-19 3-Precision, 2-Toughness
20-24 1-BoS, 3-Shield Special, 1-Imp RF
25-29 3-Imp SoJ, 2-Imp RF
30-34 1-Holy Shield, 4-Reckoning
35-39 1-Reck, 4-1h Special
40-44 1-Argent Defender, 4-Benediction
45-49 1-Benediction, 4-Deflection
50-54 1-Deflection, 2-Pursuit, 2-Conviction
55-60 1-Conviction, 2-Imp Ret Aura, 2-Deflection

Protection Notes:
Improved Seal of Justice is not required to tank dungeons before endgame. Taunt requires you to JoJ and have not cast Judgement in the last 8-10 seconds to be able to JoJ. While this "Taunts" it does not put your threat over the target so it may rip back off you after 2-3 secs.
Instead, use HoJ and Holy Strike and JoR the target to regain threat on target, this is in most cases better than taunting.
If need be can always BOP the target.

Retribution Leveling Build -
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/UU-5I-56UVCF6V
--> Stat Priorities: Str/Stam/Agi
10-14 5-Benediction
15-19 5-Deflection
20-24 2-Pursuit, 3-Conviction
25-29 3-Imp Ret Aura, 2-Conviction, 1-Kings
30-34 1-SoC, 3-2h Special, 1-Improved Judgement
35-39 5-Vengeance
40-44 1-Rep, 4 Redoubt
45-49 1-Redoubt, 3-Precision, 1-Divine Strength
50-54 4-Divine Strength,1-Spiritual Focus
55-58 4-Spiritual Focus
59/60 (4 Choices); You are left with 2 Pts! Do as you wish...
1-Imp Judgement
2-ILoH
2-Divine Intellect
2-Sanctified Command

--== Basic Leveling Rotation ==--
Level 1-30 (Judging too often can speed kill time, but also eats more mana)
Use Seal of Righteousness (SoR)
Use Blessing of Wisdom (Primary Blessing)
Queue Holy Strike (R1) Initial Hit, Repeat on CD
Auto Till Low
Finish off With Judge of Righteousness.
Reseal and go again

Level 30+ (Prot) Open World
Use Blessing of Sanctuary
Judging too often can speed kill time, but also eats more mana)
Queue Holy Strike (R1) Initial Hit, Repeat on CD
Use Seal of Righteousness (SoR) or Seal of Wisdom/Light(SoW/L) in AoE 3+ Situations.
Auto Till Low
- If Redoubt Procs, Cast Holy Shield(HS) - (Blocks will Regen Cost of HS)
Finish off With Judge of Righteousness if using.
Reseal and go again

Level 30+ (Prot) Dungeon
Use Blessing of Sanctuary
Judging too often can speed kill time, but also eats more mana)
Queue Holy Strike (R1) Initial Hit, Repeat on CD
-> Use Seal of Wisdom(SoW) 100%
Judge SoW, Reseal SoW
Drop Highest Rank Consecrate, followed by R1
If Redoubt Procs, Cast Holy Shield(HS) - (Blocks will Regen Cost of HS)
Auto Till Low
Reseal and go again
Bosses JoW, can use SoR for more threat, but high-rank consecrate+hs is generally enough.


Level 30+ (Ret)
Judging too often can speed kill time, but also eats more mana)
Use Blessing of Wisdom (Primary Blessing)
Use Seal of Command R1 (SoC)
Queue Holy Strike (R1) Initial Hit, Repeat on CD
Auto Till Low
Can cast Judgement between Autos, finish off With Judge of Command (JoC)
Why?- R1 SoC is pretty inexpensive so judging for that extra dmg between autos is fine vs SoR.
Reseal and go again
A harder Target can be Stunned/Judged for more damage/burst.

--== End Game 60 Builds ==--
Holy Lv 60 Build:
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/5UICW8V-U2-U0U1C

Prot Lv 60 Build: 0/21/30
Threat Build: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ ... J-5CUVCF0U

Solo Self Heal Build: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/5UICW8U-5IDL0I
You are left with 1 Pt! Do as you wish...
1-Holy Shock (Fast Insta Crit Heal)
1-Holy Shield (Gets Eaten Fast In Big Pulls)

Ret Lv 60 Build:
https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/Z01-5I-XF0VC36U
You are left with 2 Pts! Do as you wish...
2-ILoH
2-Benediction
1-Repentance + LoH or Benediction

--== ENCHANTS ==--

Helm/Leg
Holy: Lesser Arcanum of Rumination +150 Mana
Prot: Lesser Arcanum of Constitution +100 Health
Ret: Lesser Arcanum of Voracity +8 Strength

Other Options;
Arcanum of Protection 1% Dodge
Arcanum of Focus +8 Healing/Damage
Arcanum of Rapidity 1% Haste

ZG RELEASE:
Syncretist’s Sigil: 10 Stam / 7 Defense / +24 Healing

Shoulder
Holy: Zandalar Signet of Serenity +33 Healing
Prot: Zandalar Signet of Mojo +18 Damage/Healing
Ret: Zandalar Signet of Might +30 AP

Cloak
Holy: Enchant Cloak – Subtlety
Prot: Enchant Cloak – Superior Defense or Enchant Cloak – Dodge
Ret: Enchant Cloak – Subtlety

Chest
Holy: Enchant Chest – Major Mana + 100 Mana
Prot: Enchant Chest – Major Health + 100 Health, or Enchant Chest – Lesser Absorption
Ret: Enchant Chest – Greater Stats +4 Stats

Bracer
Holy: Enchant Bracer – Mana Regeneration, Enchant Bracer – Healing Power or Enchant Bracer – Greater Intellect
Prot: Enchant Bracer – Superior Stamina or Enchant Bracer – Deflection
Ret: Enchant Bracer – Superior Strength

Glove
Holy: Enchant Gloves – Healing Power +30 Healing
Prot: Enchant Gloves – Greater Strength, Enchant Gloves – Threat or Enchant Gloves – Superior Agility
Ret: Enchant Gloves – Greater Strength, Enchant Gloves – Superior Agility or Enchant Gloves – Minor Haste,

Boot
Holy: Enchant Boots – Greater Stamina or Enchant Boots – Spirit
Prot: Enchant Boots – Greater Stamina
Ret: Enchant Boots – Greater Agility
or Enchant Boots – Minor Speed

Weapon Enchants
Holy: Healing Power, Mighty Intellect
Prot: Weapon Chain, Strength, Spell Power, Fiery, Crusader, Lifestealing
Ret: 2H Weapon - Agility, Strength, Fiery, Crusader, Lifestealing

Holy: Brilliant Mana Oil, Lesser Mana Oil
Weapon Oils [Below If Not Windfury Present]
Prot: Brilliant Mana Oil, Lesser Mana Oil
Ret: (AP) Elemental Sharpening Stone [2%Crit], (SP) (Shadow Oil)

--== Bonus damage Items in Turtle WoW ==--
Paladins should make use of (Equip adds X Damage to melee attacks) as these all trigger Judge of Wisdom (JoW). These can also CRIT based off spell crit and proc Vengeance.

Repaired Electro-Lantern - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=65030
Storm Gauntlets - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=12632
Fiery Plate Gauntlets - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=12631
Flameskin Gloves - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=81267
Lavadrenched Chainmail - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=80704
Incendosaur Skin Pauldrons - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60572
Incendosaur Skin Gloves - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60582
Incendosaur Skin Boots - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60568
Fiery Retributer - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=19968
Crimson Spellblade - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=81018
Blazefury Medallion - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=17111
Leggings of Fiery Temper - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=61505
Ring of Electrical Binding - https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=61332

--== PROFESSIONS ==--

3 Main Professions;

Engineering/Mining: Most things made by engineers are Eng Only.
+ Early On Range AoE Bombs
+ Early Goggles
+ Early On Dummy+Bop
+ Mid Game/End Game Trinkets
+ End Game Battle Pets
+ End Game Transportation/Gear.

Blacksmith/Mining - Not as useful SC with access to AH, but on HC very useful.
+ Sharpening Stones
+ Belt Buckles
+ Shield Spikes
+ Mithril Spurs
+ Leveling Armor;
Low Lv: Runed Copper
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?search=Runed+Copper
Mid-Lv: Green Iron
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?search=Green+Iron
43-45+: Steel Plate
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?search=steel+plate
+ End Game Armor/Weapons

Alchemy/Herbing - Highly Recommended on HC, BUT most items can be purchased from Alchs.
+ Access To Elixer/Pots early on
+ Stats for a short duration, but have to continue to apply.
+ Swift Pots are useful, if no Alchy, buy 5-10 Swift to last till 60.
+ Invis Potions
+ Limited Invulnerability
+ Petrification

[Unchallenged]

Reserved

[Ghola]

thats not what stoneform does

[Dietrommel]

Thanks for the Guide!

What specifically made you differentiate between Dungeon and non-Dungeon?
I am only lv. 15 right now and that might be a noob question :-D

[Deleigh]

what is a good rotation for low level, middle level, and high level?

[Wrathweaver]

Thanks for the Guide!

What specifically made you differentiate between Dungeon and non-Dungeon?
I am only lv. 15 right now and that might be a noob question :-D

This guide is a bit outdated.
The main change is judement of the crusader procs weapon and no longer debuffs to increase holy damage by a large amount.
Main issue for both dungeon and especially solo is mana and damage for holy (holy no longer very viable solo, its a pure healing spec now).
Crusader strike does some damage but will use most of your mana.
What you want to be looking for is a good proc weapons for leveling and then look for another proc weapon for the next levels.

For pvp and other instances, most paladins have different proc weapons for different bosses and situations.
Many have charge weapons that they rotate i think.

Turtle wow paladin is the only class that has the real private server ascension feel to them, all other classes are vanilla+ more or less.

Edit: note that some proc weapons might be changed into normal weapons because they are too powerful, look at AH and dont rely too much on database.

[Alexam89]

Thank a lot for the guide, is it a way to see the talent levelling order in the skill trees? For example in a build for prot paladin dungeon I do not understand where to put my points first, should I put 5 point into second row and go futher, or I should put all the points in the second row, and then proceed. I guess I have to put only 5 points, but what should I prioritize?

[Jotafran]

Yes pls, Can you update the guide and put the talent expediture in order for levelling?. Thanks.

[Bittermens]

This guide not only needs an update but also a DPS Guide now that spelladin is a thing.

[Galindae]

sorry guide is in russian byt i hope it will help (about spell retri paladin)

[Unchallenged]

Thanks for the Guide!

What specifically made you differentiate between Dungeon and non-Dungeon?
I added the lil notes under for reasoning;
- More Armor/Defense For Survival, No Imp Threat or Taunt.
vs
- More Hit For Tanking Threat With Imp Threat + Taunt.

I am only lv. 15 right now and that might be a noob question :-D

How was your living experience on Paladin?

[Unchallenged]

what is a good rotation for low level, middle level, and high level?

I Added in the rotation I had mostly used, when low/mid - high level it's very situational.

SoW/JoW is great if your running 10 Holy for the 100% chance to heal through and need lots of mana.

Otherwise SoL/JoL can maintain your health, while blocks from Prot regen your mana with enough mobs.

[Unchallenged]

Thank a lot for the guide, is it a way to see the talent levelling order in the skill trees? For example in a build for prot paladin dungeon I do not understand where to put my points first, should I put 5 point into second row and go futher, or I should put all the points in the second row, and then proceed. I guess I have to put only 5 points, but what should I prioritize?

Yes pls, Can you update the guide and put the talent expediture in order for levelling?. Thanks.

I Updated and added Talent Progression for Prot/Ret, let me know what you think.

[Vidac7]

What are the stat priorities for each build?

[Munra]

Blacksmith/Mining - Not as useful SC with access to AH, but on HC can be useful.

Nice guide, thanks you very much for this. Since english is not my strongest, I couldnt figured out what you mean by "SC", what does it stand for?

[Sylveria]

Blacksmith/Mining - Not as useful SC with access to AH, but on HC can be useful.

Nice guide, thanks you very much for this. Since english is not my strongest, I couldnt figured out what you mean by "SC", what does it stand for?

SC = Softcore (just a normal Character without Hardcore-Challenge), you may also say NHC (Non-Hardcore)

[Munra]

SC = Softcore (just a normal Character without Hardcore-Challenge), you may also say NHC (Non-Hardcore)

Thank you very much!!

[Manbearpig]

Awesome help for new Paladins!!

In your opinion, which leveling build would be the safer choice for hardcore players?

[Unchallenged]

Awesome help for new Paladins!!

In your opinion, which leveling build would be the safer choice for hardcore players?

Prot Paladins is the safer choice for HC Players.

20-30 is pretty straightforward you'll do just as much damage as a ret paladin, only will have a shield to block to regen mana per block, and can make your dungeon groups pretty quick.

you can still heal (collect int/stm gear) or fill a dps role.

The differences are pretty minimal.