GDKP, TDKP, and Turtle WoW

[Akalix]

Greetings!

Here on Turtle WoW, we have never allowed RMT. With this, we have also forbidden systems such as GDKP. Recently, a number of groups have been forming "TDKP" (tithe-DKP) runs, where players will "donate" items to their group in exchange for gear. This sort of system is not allowed on Turtle WoW, as our rules state:

GDKP raids, where groups auction bind-on-pickup or bind-on-equip items for gold, real money, or similar in-game currencies (including valuable items), may NOT be created, promoted or attended.

We have been investigating these groups, and will be issuing 2 week bans to any participants, with organizers and blatant RMTers receiving permanent bans.

Please be very aware of our rules, as outlined here: https://turtle-wow.org/#/rules
Being unaware is not an excuse to break our Terms of Service. Fair play is non-optional on Turtle WoW.

[Bittermens]

Most people buy golds because most stuff in vanilla is literally broken or expensive
Even back then getting 1000G for mount or 0.5 was a complete pain in the dick

Nerfing the prices to a deadline of 700g with rep discount wouldn't be bad since people also buys gold because of this small issue.

There will be morons that will sperg over "reee it isn't vanilla anymore"? yes but these morons only cares for PVP titles and Fresh, and look at what happened to the pvp server...
And said morons sperged over SoD but are now on GDKP mode and buying gold in wrath classic.

[Jc473]

Most people buy golds because most stuff in vanilla is literally broken or expensive
Even back then getting 1000G for mount or 0.5 was a complete pain in the dick

Nerfing the prices to a deadline of 700g with rep discount wouldn't be bad since people also buys gold because of this small issue.

There will be morons that will sperg over "reee it isn't vanilla anymore"? yes but these morons only cares for PVP titles and Fresh, and look at what happened to the pvp server...
And said morons sperged over SoD but are now on GDKP mode and buying gold in wrath classic.

Doesn't matter how far you move the goal posts, people will still be tempted by these methods of making gold.

On a small project like TWoW, I don't think the developers should be concerned with gold buying when designing game features/systems. That is the job of the 'police force' and, evidently, they do a good job at dissuading people and keeping RMT to a minimum.

As it stands, WoW has always lacked gold sinks and the epic mount is one of the biggest ones. If anything, we need more systems in place to drain gold out of the system. That's the real way to combat inflation; not just nerf gold farms.

Also, the 1000g epic mount target is something to slowly work your way towards (if you are a casual player). It fits the whole ethos of TWoW; slow and steady. I think this long term goal is a perfectly healthy one for the average player. What's the rush...?

[Birdmanh20]

I'd rather keep the prices high and Ban both the sellers and buyers.
If it helps to expose them then I see no fault and I'd benefit from the lower prices, as a legit player.
This news is wonderful and I'm proud of the staff for taking action because while not explicit they intentionally did their best to bend the rules and anyone who plays in good faith would have known better.

[Zvyrhol]

What's funny is that TDKP seems to be a new loot system invented by Chinese minority (majority) in WoW private servers that have GDKP banned. To be honest, I have never heard about this system until now and looking at all posts about TDKP on this forum I dare to hypothesize that this new system was born on Turtle WoW. Link to the origin proof: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12939. History for future generations.

[Reploidrocsa]

would that explain why blotus and flask prices have skyrocketed in the last few weeks?

[Ataika]

That explains why online has dropped from 4000 to 3200

[Onega11]

Please continue to not allow GDKP, TDKP's on Trutle WoW.

Thanks

[Zvyrhol]

would that explain why blotus and flask prices have skyrocketed in the last few weeks?

We will find out after 2 weeks. If they really used Black Lotus to trade for raid items, they will sell their Lotuses after their ban fades.

[Windyforce1127]

Greetings!

Here on Turtle WoW, we have never allowed RMT. With this, we have also forbidden systems such as GDKP. Recently, a number of groups have been forming "TDKP" (tithe-DKP) runs, where players will "donate" items to their group in exchange for gear. This sort of system is not allowed on Turtle WoW, as our rules state:

GDKP raids, where groups auction bind-on-pickup or bind-on-equip items for gold, real money, or similar in-game currencies (including valuable items), may NOT be created, promoted or attended.

We have been investigating these groups, and will be issuing 2 week bans to any participants, with organizers and blatant RMTers receiving permanent bans.

Please be very aware of our rules, as outlined here: https://turtle-wow.org/#/rules
Being unaware is not an excuse to break our Terms of Service. Fair play is non-optional on Turtle WoW.

I just want to know where to appeal for being wrongly banned. Can you provide a link to the complaint?

[Windyforce1127]

Greetings!

Here on Turtle WoW, we have never allowed RMT. With this, we have also forbidden systems such as GDKP. Recently, a number of groups have been forming "TDKP" (tithe-DKP) runs, where players will "donate" items to their group in exchange for gear. This sort of system is not allowed on Turtle WoW, as our rules state:

GDKP raids, where groups auction bind-on-pickup or bind-on-equip items for gold, real money, or similar in-game currencies (including valuable items), may NOT be created, promoted or attended.

We have been investigating these groups, and will be issuing 2 week bans to any participants, with organizers and blatant RMTers receiving permanent bans.

Please be very aware of our rules, as outlined here: https://turtle-wow.org/#/rules
Being unaware is not an excuse to break our Terms of Service. Fair play is non-optional on Turtle WoW.

I am just an ordinary player, just fight monsters with other teammates, get equipment with DKP saved by hard work several times, never participate in RMT or TDKP behavior, why would I be banned? I'd like to know how I can appeal.

[Sheed90]

I just want to know where to appeal for being wrongly banned. Can you provide a link to the complaint?

You exactly know why your‘re or will be banned. Cheating, Bugusing, Glitchusing, don‘t following the rules. Just one of them or maybe all of them.

After that you‘re always spamming the forum. Great. Shittalk as always from you guys.

[Windyforce1127]

I just want to know where to appeal for being wrongly banned. Can you provide a link to the complaint?

You exactly know why your‘re or will be banned. Cheating, Bugusing, Glitchusing, don‘t following the rules. Just one of them or all maybe all of them.

After that you‘re always spamming the forum. Great. Shittalk as always from you guys.

You know how it feels when you've been treated unfairly one day. I just want to know where to go. I just want to be treated fairly, not racially.

[Sheed90]

And there we‘re again! We‘re all racists!

[Slashignore]

would that explain why blotus and flask prices have skyrocketed in the last few weeks?

ehm no.. thats because of BWL incomming.

[Ctzzzzzzzz]

I paid for supplies to the union a few months ago, and the quantity was very small and the value was also very low. I also did not participate in any buying or selling of goods. Now I request to lift the ban on my account.

[Windyforce1127]

I paid for supplies to the union a few months ago, and the quantity was very small and the value was also very low. I also did not participate in any buying or selling of goods. Now I request to lift the ban on my account.

I didn't pay for any supplies, just fought the DKP regiment with the union, which was also blocked. There's no place for the face to complain.

[Xerilin]

I just want to know where to appeal for being wrongly banned. Can you provide a link to the complaint?

You exactly know why your‘re or will be banned. Cheating, Bugusing, Glitchusing, don‘t following the rules. Just one of them or all maybe all of them.

After that you‘re always spamming the forum. Great. Shittalk as always from you guys.

You know how it feels when you've been treated unfairly one day. I just want to know where to go. I just want to be treated fairly, not racially.

You can appeal bans on the website after logging in. You can also ask for the reason you were banned there.

[Windyforce1127]

You exactly know why your‘re or will be banned. Cheating, Bugusing, Glitchusing, don‘t following the rules. Just one of them or all maybe all of them.

After that you‘re always spamming the forum. Great. Shittalk as always from you guys.

You know how it feels when you've been treated unfairly one day. I just want to know where to go. I just want to be treated fairly, not racially.

You can appeal bans on the website after logging in. You can also ask for the reason you were banned there.

Thank you for your warning. I have to say it gives me hope.

[Krotux]

Turtle wow devs dont false ban, people deserve it. Including myself when I got banned for multi boxing.

[Xudo]

This is totally positive announcement.
If this is the real reason why prices on consumables skyrocketed, then it is good.

Though, people interested in RMT still present on the server even if banned. They could just sell stuff for real money, aren't they?

Is it right that tank and healer services in exchange for gold/valuables are allowed?

[Drubarrymooer]

This is totally positive announcement.
If this is the real reason why prices on consumables skyrocketed, then it is good.

Though, people interested in RMT still present on the server even if banned. They could just sell stuff for real money, aren't they?

Is it right that tank and healer services in exchange for gold/valuables are allowed?

It's not the "real reason". It's just part of it. As I've said, it's multifaceted. As soon as this post went out there was a massive gromsblood buyout by a few na players and it was relisted roughly quadrupled. It's node scarcity, scalpers, and RMT circumventers.... Not necessarily in that order.

And yes you can offer services like tanking for gold.

[Inovatu]

there is a difference betwenn "tanking for gold" and i'll "buy" an Item in a Raid with a Flask or Arcanite/Black Lotus and other Materials Dru :)
but yeah its part of the Problem and was a Loophole for RMT and GDPK.

[Harkus]

Greetings!

Here on Turtle WoW, we have never allowed RMT. With this, we have also forbidden systems such as GDKP. Recently, a number of groups have been forming "TDKP" (tithe-DKP) runs, where players will "donate" items to their group in exchange for gear. This sort of system is not allowed on Turtle WoW, as our rules state:

GDKP raids, where groups auction bind-on-pickup or bind-on-equip items for gold, real money, or similar in-game currencies (including valuable items), may NOT be created, promoted or attended.

We have been investigating these groups, and will be issuing 2 week bans to any participants, with organizers and blatant RMTers receiving permanent bans.

Please be very aware of our rules, as outlined here: https://turtle-wow.org/#/rules
Being unaware is not an excuse to break our Terms of Service. Fair play is non-optional on Turtle WoW.

I am just an ordinary player, just fight monsters with other teammates, get equipment with DKP saved by hard work several times, never participate in RMT or TDKP behavior, why would I be banned? I'd like to know how I can appeal.

Lol get rekt for trying to ruin the server with your GDKP shit. You can feign innocence all you like but you know exactly what you did. You are lucky Hanzi still is not banned on the server... races do not exist by the way.

[Bigsmerf]

Greetings!

Here on Turtle WoW, we have never allowed RMT. With this, we have also forbidden systems such as GDKP. Recently, a number of groups have been forming "TDKP" (tithe-DKP) runs, where players will "donate" items to their group in exchange for gear. This sort of system is not allowed on Turtle WoW, as our rules state:

GDKP raids, where groups auction bind-on-pickup or bind-on-equip items for gold, real money, or similar in-game currencies (including valuable items), may NOT be created, promoted or attended.

We have been investigating these groups, and will be issuing 2 week bans to any participants, with organizers and blatant RMTers receiving permanent bans.

Please be very aware of our rules, as outlined here: https://turtle-wow.org/#/rules
Being unaware is not an excuse to break our Terms of Service. Fair play is non-optional on Turtle WoW.

I am just an ordinary player, just fight monsters with other teammates, get equipment with DKP saved by hard work several times, never participate in RMT or TDKP behavior, why would I be banned? I'd like to know how I can appeal.

The broken english makes it all the more convincing.

[Marafado]

I hope the "perfect english" receive the same treatment as a "broken one" ;p. Special when the "perfect" is a buyer :)

[Bogyone]

As it stands, WoW has always lacked gold sinks and the epic mount is one of the biggest ones. If anything, we need more systems in place to drain gold out of the system. That's the real way to combat inflation; not just nerf gold farms.

As we cannot compare to retail's two years moving cap and the pserver gold farm will be perpetual we need different solutions. I think we should have tested centralized economy of sorts with vendors sending exotic materials for salty price. Instead of inflation raising prices more and more it'd introduce ceiling and force players to compete with prices and services. It'd also turn gold after certain point irrelevant because if you already got everything and only need to sustain your character, then what do you care for gold.

[Zclcxb123]

That explains why online has dropped from 4000 to 3200

now it is 2200

[Ataika]

That explains why online has dropped from 4000 to 3200

now it is 2200

oughhh