PvP & Economy Update

[Endlessfishing]

Happy holidays everyvone.

[Scelus12]

I hope everyone appreciates how thoughtful and responsive the devs are here. This is a unicorn of a server. Love to see it.

[Burunduk]

• Winds of Discovery event will begin upon the launch of our patch 1.17.1: Labor & Legacy which will provide 10% bonus EXP on Nordanaar and 20% bonus EXP on Tel'Abim, with new characters qualifying for a gift upon reaching level 20!

Tel'Abim is dead, no one is leveling there

[Bloodphobos]

Great changes. One of the few patches where the adjustments are genuinely aimed at improving players' quality of life, and their implementation feels sensible across various aspects.

[Fanatix]

Great Addition and changes THANK YOU TEAM

[Akalix]

• Winds of Discovery event will begin upon the launch of our patch 1.17.1: Labor & Legacy which will provide 10% bonus EXP on Nordanaar and 20% bonus EXP on Tel'Abim, with new characters qualifying for a gift upon reaching level 20!

Tel'Abim is dead, no one is leveling there

What do you think the purpose of this event is?

[Queenoona]

Very cool, thanks for staying on top of all the feedback and addressing community concerns so quickly. Lets hope for smooth rollouts of these new systems and that some good feedback can be gained to improve them.

[Drubarrymooer]

Two things.

First, these are some HUGE PvP changes for the better! So thank you so so much!

Second, can we not call horseshoes horseshoes? I'm a Tauren and my vote is to call them "Shoes of Bovinity"...or even "Tauren Running Shoes". Lol anything is better than horseshoes ;)

Regardless, thank you Torta. A lot of us here that have been around awhile recognize yours and the teams hard work!

[Sivent]

Winds of Discovery event will begin upon the launch of our patch 1.17.1: Labor & Legacy which will provide 10% bonus EXP on Nordanaar and 20% bonus EXP on Tel'Abim, with new characters qualifying for a gift upon reaching level 20!

Please do not do this.

Yeah not a fan of this

Not a fan neither, I hope the event duration is less than a week.
Leveling is not meant to be a race to the finish, but an enjoyable Slow & Steady journey.

[Ataika]

Now ab/wsg will be plagued with premades only

[Slashignore]

new pvp rule = means if your level 20 is being corpse grinded by a level 9 above you, you cant take your level 60 and punish the guy.

[Paistinpannu]

Great changes, love to see this. Can't wait for those PvP towers and faction leader loot, gonna be some serious fun wpvp action!

[Jc473]

new pvp rule = means if your level 20 is being corpse grinded by a level 9 above you, you cant take your level 60 and punish the guy.

Read Akalix's follow up post (he'll add it to the initial post at some point) which says they are temporarily disabling the DK system to redesign it.

[Oomentaloo]

Wow! Big W for Turtle WoW!

Was debating the warmode reward just yesterday in game.
The Plaguebloom change is also a good temporary fix! Maybe we see more suitable new zones in the future!

[Holyhorrorr]

new pvp rule = means if your level 20 is being corpse grinded by a level 9 above you, you cant take your level 60 and punish the guy.

Post by Akalix:

Dishonorable Kills have been temporarily removed pending a larger-scope rework

It's on page 1 pretty much on the bottom posted by him

[Steakhouse]

If one of the issues with AV is people farming nodes why not remove nodes from AV altogether ? Don't they de-incentivize PVP ?

[Erhog]

Alterac Valley has been given a new stacking Coward debuff. Every 5 minutes a player does not participate in combat, they gain a stack. After 3 stacks, they flee the battleground.

So stay in capped tower will be punishable. Or you soohuld constantly aggro some mobs. I'd suggest making it 10 mins AT LEAST coz otherwise it will punish legit players while afking and killing some mob once in *put any time here* will be enough and you still could just keep afking but ofc this will stop some afk bots.

[Rurin]

Please update the reputation rewards for Warsong Gulch.

It is by far the longest battleground reputation to grind, and yet its rewards are the worst. Even - useless. For exalted you get pants that directly compete with rank 12 reward (not even 13) and bracers that are worse than boe Molten Core drops for most classes.

As an example idea, currently there is no way to gain epic neck from pure PvP. It would be a good idea to add it to WSG reputation.

[Nallkun]

Thanks Devs!
- The pet Trinket removal is awesome...
- The Full health after Blood ring is awesome.. dont know how many times i come OUT with Warlock dots ticking away on me.... QUICK EAT.. GOnNA DIE!
- Faction leader loot tables is exciting!
- Rich Thorium Veins now share spawn locations with regular Thorium Veins (GOLD!!!)

Still REALLLLLLY looking forward to those alternate tier sets... Theres such a GREAT opportunity there. im really hoping they are well thought out with appropriate set bonuses etc.

Oh also... Druid Healing is broken... Please let HOTS STACK from multiple Resto druids and they really need an Out of combat resurrection spell.

Even if its stupid expensive.. or requires a component.. ... 30 second cast time? whatever it takes... they need both those things.. <3

[Erhog]

Alterac Valley now rewards 25% less honor, while providing 25% more reputation.

WSG, AB, and SGV have all had their honor rewards increased by 25%

Sorry, but if you look at AV and WSG/AB/SGV(what is this it never procs?) you could notice that AV is full of non-pvp players and only honor farmers are interested in WSG/AB. Buuut if you aren't in premade - there is no point going into WSG and getting boosted 0+25% honor while gathering herbs on AV still gives you some solo kills, good honor no-matter-what and you know - some herbs. Premades will benefit ofc and they will get even more honor gap from solo queue players but overall it's just will cut those people who are casualy farming 100-300k honor/week and will reduce their progress.

[Twinking]

Changes of Note:

• WSG, AB, and SGV have been given increased honor rewards

• Dishonorable Kills have been temporarily removed pending a larger-scope rework

• Plaguebloom added to Stratholme

[Chudman123]

Please update the reputation rewards for Warsong Gulch.

It is by far the longest battleground reputation to grind, and yet its rewards are the worst. Even - useless. For exalted you get pants that directly compete with rank 12 reward (not even 13) and bracers that are worse than boe Molten Core drops for most classes.

As an example idea, currently there is no way to gain epic neck from pure PvP. It would be a good idea to add it to WSG reputation.

This exactly, do it for AB too. Maybe a trinket for AB and ammy for WSG.

Also give wsg a set bonus (buff set bonus for ab to be in par with BR)

[Grizb37]

All great apart from the DHK on gray players and the xp boost event thing.

[Holiediver69]

Who asked for Dishonorable kill changes? Is this an out of season april fools joke? What if a lowbie or group or lowbies is attacking a higher level player ? This is an absurdly unnecessary change

[Savagemode]

Tel'abim should not have battlegrounds available yet. max levels spam av for best honor per hour and world pvp is virtually nonexistent.

I have been camped too many times to count but I would never want to be worth a DHK to another player. Horrible "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist. Getting corpse camped? take a break from the game and go play real life for a little bit.

Rest of the changes seem good but I guess we will see.

[Bittermens]

Changes to PVP does nothing at all, when all of AB and WSG are always Horde stomp matches due to shamans and warlocks spamming curse of elements and shamans zapping people with fast chain lightning.
Followed by they Bitching when one paladin activates shield and comes to cry here later on.

Also horde not doing SGV at all because they lose.

[Jc473]

Who asked for Dishonorable kill changes? Is this an out of season april fools joke? What if a lowbie or group or lowbies is attacking a higher level player ? This is an absurdly unnecessary change

look forward down and you'll see he made a further post

Changes of Note:

• WSG, AB, and SGV have been given increased honor rewards

• Dishonorable Kills have been temporarily removed pending a larger-scope rework

• Plaguebloom added to Stratholme

[Jc473]

All great apart from the DHK on gray players and the xp boost event thing.

look at his update post

Changes of Note:

• WSG, AB, and SGV have been given increased honor rewards

• Dishonorable Kills have been temporarily removed pending a larger-scope rework

• Plaguebloom added to Stratholme

[Slashignore]

if you are gonna update this pvp scene anyways why not make spells FREE during waiting time in a BG.. its frustrating using mana/regs to buff people during that phase.

i mean - Cmon!

[Holiediver69]

News Flash , the new crowd you had left Tel Abim because of how overpowered and overtuned paladin and feral are. This server looks like a meme leaving paladin and feral in their current state on a "pvp server". Our server looks and is a meme because of paladin derangement syndrome.

[Silverfox]

How about boosting the reputation gain for the BGs besides AV? I would be far more interested in that, than in getting more honor points.

[Krawallbruder]

How about boosting the reputation gain for the BGs besides AV? I would be far more interested in that, than in getting more honor points.

why not leave the actual pvpers some exclusive rewards instead of making everything available to the masses?

[Xudo]

How about boosting the reputation gain for the BGs besides AV? I would be far more interested in that, than in getting more honor points.

It was buffed from vanilla values as of 1.17.0 viewtopic.php?p=32868#p32868

Warsong Gulch
Capturing a flag now grants your team 108 reputation up from 35 reputation, amounting to 324 reputation if you capture all three flags to win the battleground.

Arathi Basin
The reputation points granted for gathering resources has been increased from 13 to 25 for each tick, amounting to 325 reputation with 13 ticks if you acquire enough resources to win the battleground.

[Chudman123]

if you are gonna update this pvp scene anyways why not make spells FREE during waiting time in a BG.. its frustrating using mana/regs to buff people during that phase.

i mean - Cmon!

They said unlimited mana before BG starts so this is gonna happen

[Chudman123]

Soul shards will be refunded. Since mana is unlimited just cast each player if the mat is really that expensive.