New queue prioritization system is in place!

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Thecakeisalie » Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:51 pm

Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:43 pm
Thecakeisalie wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:37 pm
Shaman111 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:22 pm


he means chinese rmt mafia shitting up their server
You reap what you sow. Clean up your own community and blacklist/don't play with players that rmt instead of coming to the EU realm. Of course there are a "few bad guys" on the EU realm, but most of the community take a stance against it, as can be seen with the "moo" spam and reporting of rmt advertisers.
you really dont know about the "moo" spam and reporting of rmt advertisers in china,to be honest, thats why we here after the blizzd(CN) fallen down

Then please enlighten us of the issues on the SEA servers.

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Whalemilk » Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:55 pm

Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:38 pm
But it doesn't have to be done, does it? And there are Asians who speak English?
The real problem is that Asians culture towards gaming is a lot different than westerners. That’s why you see RMT and pay to win.

The reason why people from Canada, USA, Germany, Sweden, etc can work together is because we have an understanding of the game and how it should be treated.

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Harkus » Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:01 pm

Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:12 pm
Harkus wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:10 pm
Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:26 pm


I don't understand why I have to talk to people who don't speak my language. There are so many people on this server you can't know all of them, let alone some of the people you block. As long as there are some of your friends on this server, isn't it enough
Because being able to speak to other players is kind of mandatory in a (traditional) MMORPG and is the spirit of Turtle
So do you know everyone on this server? Can't you play a game alone? Or just a few dozen people playing a game? It's the spirit indeed but you're not forced to do it
It is not about knowing everyone on the server, it is about being able to communicate with most people on the server. It may shock you but English is not my first language either. Turtle is an English server, if you want to be here, like with an English country, you speak English. English is the international language. Having a big Chinese ghetto on the server that is almost completely segregated is bad for a server and goes against what Turtle is about.
I am sorry if you really have been on Turtle for years, but if you truly wish to stay in the EU realm then you can learn a bit of English.

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Mac » Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:16 pm

I don’t understand what’s wrong with the Chinese servers. If I were a Chinese speaking person, I’d play on one. That’s a no-brainer.

So what’s the big issue?

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Post by Pauloricardo » Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:19 pm

I think everything has been explained. Turtle EU will prioritize to their English Community. Period. There is nothing to say. This is not be sexist, fascist, racist, artist, autistic, bassist, basicist, Baptist, Buddhist, centrist, chargist, cyclist, classist, contrist, copyist, czarist, dentist, exist, fascist, flutist, florist, fundist, harpist, insist, jurist, legist, lobbyist, Marist, Marxist, modist, nihilist, nudist, papist, passist, persist, purist, racist, resist, psalmist, simplist, sophist, soloist, subsist, Thomist, Trotskyist, Turist, Tourist, Alarmist, Algebraist, Alchemist, Amethyst, Analyst, Archivist, Activist, Bolshevist, Calvinist, Cartoonist, Ceramist, Charadist, Chauvinist, Scientist, Coexist, Columnist, Commodist, Communist, Conformist, Darwinist, Defeatist, diarist, dogmatist, dualist, duelist, duetist, leftist, statist, stylist, eugenicist, exorcist, extremist, fatalist, feminist, fetishist, feudalist, finalist, formalist, futurist, garagist, Germanist, governmentist, guitarist, hedonist, Hellenist, Hispanist, humanist, humorist, journalist, Latinist, legalist, mannerist, machinist, methodist, modernist, moralist, occultist, organist, optimist, pacifist, pessimist, pianist, pietist, pluralist, polemicist, fifth-yearist, realist, reformist, repentist, reservist, portraitist, revanchist, novelist, ruralist, nostalgicist, backcountryist, symbolist, Zionist, suffragist, terrorist, laborist, trapeze artist, treatise artist, urbanist, utopianist, summerist, agnosticist, alienist, amateurist, anesthetist, antagonist, apologist, watercolorist, armamentist, columnist, tilemaker, biologist, Bonapartist, capitalist, clarinetist, collectivist, smuggler, criminalist, determinist, ecologist, economist, diving artist, Esperantist, strategist, ethnologist, evangelist, exclusivist, federalist, philatelist, idealist, Indianist, instrumentalist, linotypist, marginalist, mechanist, mercantilist, monopolist, motorcyclist, naturalist, negativist, neurologist, nominalist, obscurantist, opportunist, ornamentist, paternalist, pathologist, positivist, primitivist, probabilist, propagandist, protagonist, psychoanalyst, radiolist, redemptionist, relativist, renaissanceist, ritualist, sanitarian, saxophonist, seminarist, sensualist, separatist, syndicalist, socialist, subjectivist, surrealist, telegraphist, triumphalist, tropicalist, unitarist, urologist, violinist, guitarist, voluntarist, abstractionist, anti-conformist, anthropologist, motorist, cardiologist, caricaturist, contortionist, corporatist, criminologist, typist, dermatologist, dictionaryist, encyclopedist, specialist, etymologist, excursionist, expressionist, pharmacologist, physiologist, gynecologist, illusionist, imperialist, impressionist, laboratoryist, materialist, medievalist, nationalist, nutritionist, ophthalmologist, orientalist, protectionist, rationalist, radiologist , receptionist, reductionist, regionalist, sentimentalist, cellist, abolitionist, bacteriologist, conventionalist, cooperativist, endocrinologist, flamengoist, spiritualist, evolutionist, exhibitionist, existentialist, individualist, irrationalist, meteorologist, oppositionist, presidentialist, situationist, traditionalist, constitutionalist, epidemiologist, internationalist !

It looks like the Chinese don't wanna play with Chinese
I just feel sorry for the Chinese who was respecting the rules

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Fresharugula » Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:33 pm

Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:38 pm
Fresharugula wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:25 pm
Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:22 pm


everyone else in the world is polite to know you should speak english in international enviroment. yes ,But what's wrong with us speaking Chinese on our own channel?
They gave you three servers for that, EU server is for people who want to interact with ALL the players around them in English. We don’t want a self segregated community playing their own game alone and refusing to participate in the wider community.
But it doesn't have to be done, does it? And there are Asians who speak English?
It did have to be done. And it’s sucks to be an Asian player who can and would speak English, because the VAST majority of Chinese player refuse to follow the rules so drastic measures were required. The Chinese community as a whole had no interest in joining the existing community so setting them up their own community and enforcing them playing there was the only option left.

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Post by Pauloricardo » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:00 pm

Fresharugula wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:33 pm
Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:38 pm
Fresharugula wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:25 pm


They gave you three servers for that, EU server is for people who want to interact with ALL the players around them in English. We don’t want a self segregated community playing their own game alone and refusing to participate in the wider community.
But it doesn't have to be done, does it? And there are Asians who speak English?
It did have to be done. And it’s sucks to be an Asian player who can and would speak English, because the VAST majority of Chinese player refuse to follow the rules so drastic measures were required. The Chinese community as a whole had no interest in joining the existing community so setting them up their own community and enforcing them playing there was the only option left.
Things will go back to normal, I hope. I only wanted to know why mostly Chinese don't want to respect the rules.Everyone here(at least the majority) do

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Harkus » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:13 pm

I was able to play properly today for the first time in a long time, thank you devs, Turtle is healing

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Post by Reploidrocsa » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:15 pm

Harkus wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:13 pm
I was able to play properly today for the first time in a long time, thank you devs, Turtle is healing
Same, although there were some server crashes today, que experience has been flawless, free logging in and out during the whole day
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Post by Dickeradieschen » Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:35 pm

Pauloricardo wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:00 pm
Things will go back to normal, I hope. I only wanted to know why mostly Chinese don't want to respect the rules.Everyone here(at least the majority) do
It's a blend of different problems china is facing since the 90s.
I lived and studied in Hong Kong a few years ago. I can write a whole essay about that tomorrow, if you are interested. Or bored.

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Post by Geojak » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:28 am

I do feel kinda said for the chinseo n the EU realm for a few reasons.

1. Was it rly needed to roll out the anti China queues before even opening the transfers to sea?

2. Was it rly, needed to roll out this indiscriminately system against all players in China before vwen trying to ban hanzi local emulator first to see how many, will transfer freely

3. Shouldn't the account registration on sea servers be locked first before forcing the Chinese to move from EU to CN servers bevause let's face or, the queue over there is over 10k+ long and nobody would be happy, to be forced into such a thing coming from EU with queues of 7k at worst.

The situation was getting out of hand and drastic measures had to be taken. I think it could have been timed better.

In the end thought, the queue to exclude China players for the better.

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Post by Cnlaowang » Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:35 am

don't say so many nice words, you will actually discriminate against Chinese players again. there is a new word called "double standard" with double standards, which sounds so good, but what is actually done is very dirty.

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Post by Siriusf » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:06 am

Just a suggestion. If we truly care about the "English" community, what about deprioritize the account if the characters speaks any non-english words in public chat. That way English speaker all over the world would have a nice experience, even they are logging from China. But that's all based on if we are truly cared about the language not something else.

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Post by Tutayanova » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:18 am

Cnlaowang wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:35 am
don't say so many nice words, you will actually discriminate against Chinese players again. there is a new word called "double standard" with double standards, which sounds so good, but what is actually done is very dirty.
The poor Chinese was not allowed to play. CN have 3 server already and yes, dont sleep and stay online.

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Post by Jinwen » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:31 am

Please activate the role transfer service as soon as possible. The management personnel are violating the regulations.

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Post by Alubby5th » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:35 am

please put transferring system up before EU server ban Chinese IP.I want my data transferred into SEA server.But how can i do it wihout loginning in?

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Post by Cabbagepro » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:39 am

We need char transfer service now

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Post by Xiaochichi1020 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:56 am

We have no problem with the priority of European service queuing for EU players. But it's 4 o'clock at night in Britain. I started at 9 o'clock in Beijing, and 100 people lined up. It's 11 o'clock now, and the queue has grown to 400? What is the reason? thank you

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Post by Er12 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:58 am

Harkus wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:13 pm
I was able to play properly today for the first time in a long time, thank you devs, Turtle is healing
I don't want to play in European servers. We have three Asian servers running, and I really don't care about anything else except for the turtle coins.

European players are actually very pitiful, only over 2000 people, and they were almost suffocated by being squeezed... The Asian server is very good, but in fact, a small number of Chinese players still want to play with you. Due to your lack of understanding of Chinese and our familiarity and convenience with our native language, there are indeed problems communicating with each other.
Forget about the unhappiness of this period, good luck to you.

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Post by Hellkimi » Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:00 am

I am a businessman traveling all over the world, from LA to EU time by time. and I have been playing this EU server for about 2 years. now because I am Chinese and currently stay in southeast Asia, then I become a secondary citizen of this server? It is just ridiculous!!!

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Post by Lanweioo » Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:46 am

I am in Kazakhstan, playing WOW with my friends. My friends can directly enter the game, and I queue up for 3000+. What is the situation??? sad_turtle_head

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Post by Dagejiuwo123 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am

You only restrict Chinese IP addresses and turn on the transfer server system!

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Post by Lanweioo » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:23 am

Dagejiuwo123 wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:07 am
You only restrict Chinese IP addresses and turn on the transfer server system!
Do you mean that the server not only checks the IP address, but also checks the computer system?

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Post by Fresharugula » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:25 am

Xiaochichi1020 wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:56 am
We have no problem with the priority of European service queuing for EU players. But it's 4 o'clock at night in Britain. I started at 9 o'clock in Beijing, and 100 people lined up. It's 11 o'clock now, and the queue has grown to 400? What is the reason? thank you
It’s because more EU players are logging in and have priority over you on EU server.

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Post by Dagejiuwo123 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:29 am

The service of transferring roles to Asian servers is open!!!

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Post by Geojak » Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:36 am

Dagejiuwo123 wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:29 am
The service of transferring roles to Asian servers is open!!!
Hurray!

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Post by Sung » Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:46 am

Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:22 pm
Shaman111 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:18 pm
Tomsing wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:15 pm

Europe has more than one language, one country, where is inclusiveness, why must it be English, Spanish people have to speak English in the team?
everyone else in the world is polite to know you should speak english in international enviroment. its only chinese who cant grasp this crying_turtle
everyone else in the world is polite to know you should speak english in international enviroment. yes ,But what's wrong with us speaking Chinese on our own channel?
everyone else in the world is polite to know you should speak english in international enviroment??? its shit in you brain???

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Post by Sung » Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:51 am

Anadrol wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:02 pm
Sung wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:54 pm
made in china
no china you ar nothing to ues
Before you.

- Best vanilla server (also vanilla+)

- Without communication problems regardless of the country, we all spoke in English even if it was not our mother tongue, we do that in our guild or in private.

- There were no queues

- Without RMT

- Devs working on the future of the server, future patches and improvements, not on creating new stable servers and solving queue problems

Yes, we are nothing without u
trus me if china pop cant play ,we will let him gone .everyone will done

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Post by Harkus » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:12 am

Geojak wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:28 am
I do feel kinda said for the chinseo n the EU realm for a few reasons.

1. Was it rly needed to roll out the anti China queues before even opening the transfers to sea?

2. Was it rly, needed to roll out this indiscriminately system against all players in China before vwen trying to ban hanzi local emulator first to see how many, will transfer freely

3. Shouldn't the account registration on sea servers be locked first before forcing the Chinese to move from EU to CN servers bevause let's face or, the queue over there is over 10k+ long and nobody would be happy, to be forced into such a thing coming from EU with queues of 7k at worst.

The situation was getting out of hand and drastic measures had to be taken. I think it could have been timed better.

In the end thought, the queue to exclude China players for the better.
While I do feel bad for some of the Chinese players, it had been announced for weeks that this was going to happen. That they then have to wait a few days to play again seems only fair when thousands of original EU server people were not able to play (properly) for over a month... what with multiple SEA servers existing, they can start playing an alt for a while or just take a break like many server veterans did. It is not like their characters were deleted, everything will be fine for them soon smiling_turtle_head

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Post by Ingameacc12345 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:22 am

Hellkimi wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:00 am
I am a businessman traveling all over the world, from LA to EU time by time. and I have been playing this EU server for about 2 years. now because I am Chinese and currently stay in southeast Asia, then I become a secondary citizen of this server? It is just ridiculous!!!
You can't satisfy every single case out there. What is implemented now is the most logical way.

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Post by Xudo » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:25 am

I'm not chinese, but it turns out that China is closer to me than Europe. I managed to join without any queue and it is good.
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Post by Hctwowfan » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:32 am

Er12 wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:58 am
Due to your lack of understanding of Chinese and our familiarity and convenience with our native language, there are indeed problems communicating with each other.
You come to an english speaking international server, the rules clearly state that the only allowed language is english, you don't speak english and don't bother at all, you build a segregated non english speaking community making up ~50% of the playerbase and start to replace the veteran community in an rpg that lives from interaction and communication. But OUR lack of understanding your language leads to communication problems? My apologies on behalf of the international non chinese speaking former majority of players for not learning chinese to accommodate you. I just... I can't...
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Post by Cctd2010 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:38 am

New queuing system, new racial discrimination?
I want to play games on European servers,so give me various restrictions?Is the game only available in English?Europeans are humans, but other races are not humans?Is this what is called fairness?
This world will get worse and worse!

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Post by Cc515k2 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:47 am

Karrados wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:25 am
Luqj wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:00 am
Dear turtle teams, I am a player from China.
Please consider to cancel this strict and even unfair rule after no so many queues or a certain time. Especially we found we still need to queue even there is enough rooms in the realm last night restart(only 6k online).
We indeed understand the original English players’ frustrations and disappointments of the flooding CN players, besides the pure players(like us),there are many making-money studios and gold farmers, canceling hanzi support will make them go, the noob areas are much quiet now. We pure players only want to play games, mostly 1~2 hours per day, why do not go back to CN realms? Because we suffered a lot in the past time, future maybe but at this stage we don’t.
Unfair? You know what is unfair? That the Chinese are going to have 3 Realms for themself yet they still feel as if they have some kind of ownership of the European realm.

You can remain and play, no one will force you away from the Realm but the priority should be with the people that do not have 3 server for themself.
The Asian server was built with funding from Chinese partners and is not free. Please note that people like you are actually playing completely free games. We are willing to raise funds to install more servers, provided that we comply with the game rules of Turtle Warcraft. Your superior attitude reminds me of the Nazis.

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Re: New queue prioritization system is in place!

Post by Cc515k2 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:51 am

Akalix wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:08 pm
Greetings!

We have an update to share with everyone about our queue prioritization system, which will be in effect upon the next restart.

Our new queue system provides priority for our English community on our Turtle EU realm. As we have multiple new, lively realms launched in the SEA region, we have developed this system with the concept in mind that our Turtle EU realm is primarily for our English community, and our Turtle Asia network is primarily for our CN community.

We will continue to tweak this system as needed in the future, however, we expect that it will solve many issues veteran players have been facing.
The solution to the problem is to open up a role transfer plan. Instead of immediately blocking access for non English speaking players, there are not only Chinese, but also Japanese, Korean, and other languages available here. I believe that most Asian players on European servers hope to transfer roles. Please do not act recklessly until the preparation work is done properly.

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