Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
- Davemustang
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Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
The player base has made our feelings on these new "players" very clear
So either come out and just admit you've succumb to the temptation that every other private server fell to
or
Actually do something about the "problem" while the core values of Turtle WoW can still be salvaged
So either come out and just admit you've succumb to the temptation that every other private server fell to
or
Actually do something about the "problem" while the core values of Turtle WoW can still be salvaged
- Shroudedsoul
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
They already are making a Chinese server. Only issue is how to entice Chinese players to move over to it.
I personally would like a hc only server.
I personally would like a hc only server.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
They wont enforce anyone to move. Theres just gonna be two chinese servers. Enjoy your quene and dont forget to buy your spectral tiger
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Can you recommend another wow vanilla server to play? turtle is dead because of overpopulation
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There are no good ones yet and I suggest you don't financially support any single one that doesn't promise to region lock the Chinese. Turtle isn't the first server to be surrendered to them and their huge numbers.
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You needn't force anyone. The rule will work its way that general chat shall only be spoken in the english language and that will solve the issue because most of them will join their realm and the rest that stay will be a delight.
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How naive can you be? 7k chinese are sitting pretty in their gchats speaking to each other in chinese, that's not against tos. Why would they move to the sea server once it launches? Theres zero incentive to do so. If you don't force them off the server, nothing will change. The queue remains the same, the overpopulation in every single zone remains the same, the inability to complete more than 1 quest per hour remains the same.
Exlusively playing hc, alive toons below
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
I find that patience pays off in the long run. Generally speaking I am rather certain that the chinese registered accounts will get a transfer on launch. Etiquette dictates however to let those who wish to stay instead of taking action. My thinking revolves around the growing population which doesn't concern China in any way. The server is developing and the influx of players have been an issue for a longer time and it will certainly require a sophisticated method to medicine in the coming age.Hctwowfan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:16 pmHow naive can you be? 7k chinese are sitting pretty in their gchats speaking to each other in chinese, that's not against tos. Why would they move to the sea server once it launches? Theres zero incentive to do so. If you don't force them off the server, nothing will change. The queue remains the same, the overpopulation in every single zone remains the same, the inability to complete more than 1 quest per hour remains the same.
- Redmagejoe
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Radical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
they are not going to bite the hand that feeds themRedmagejoe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pmRadical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
- Redmagejoe
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What makes you think that maxim applies to this situation at all? What hand is being bitten? They're being given their own hand-crafted server with fully translated, fully Chinese moderated, fully Chinese supported channels with significantly reduced lag, and free transfers to a new realm. Do you honestly believe that it would affect Turtle's income from Chinese players one iota if they were to implement this method of coercing them to move?
Being told that "Chinese language is no longer supported on the main realm, we're sorry, but you can still use Hanzi on the China realm which you can transfer to for free" would be taken as a significantly less hostile approach than being outright banned from the main realm. The latter would lead some people to defiantly try to bypass these region locks out of spite and for no other reason, because human beings are petty.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
bruh they have zero reason to move and all reason to stay - to rmt to westerners till whats left of them quits
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
When you speak of it, you get muted in-game chat, banned from the discord and soon thrown off of the forums.
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- Reploidrocsa
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
I unironically hope for that to happenRedmagejoe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pmRadical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
May I refer you to a recent discord announcement by Alkalix? I believe that addresses this issue very cleverly. If you don't know what I am talking about you may want to check the discord announcements. I gotta say thats brilliant. So clever ![turtle_in_love_head turtle_in_love_head](./images/smilies/turtle_in_love_head.png)
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
They might have actually enforced the Transfer of Chinese people to the other server without directly enforcing it if I understood the announcement correctly.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Most Chinese players are eager to move for Chinese environment. Most Chinese players don't want to play with westerners.
And "rmt to westerners" is hilarious.
- Redmagejoe
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
You saw it here. I called it.Redmagejoe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pmRadical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
I have been asking for this for 2 weeks in atleats 5 different threads. I call dipsRedmagejoe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:01 amYou saw it here. I called it.Redmagejoe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pmRadical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
- Reploidrocsa
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Nice. Finally some good fucking newsRedmagejoe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:01 amYou saw it here. I called it.Redmagejoe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pmRadical concept: Who's to say they won't auto-filter Hanzi so messages containing it literally cannot be sent once the Chinese server launches? Then you'll see a lot of Chinese transferring when they're forced to speak broken English or simply never talk.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Hello guys I am a Chinease player, we all love twow and don't want to make any trouble for original players. But you say let us move to new realm? Currently we say no as we don't know what the SEA realm will going to be, especially it is running by a Chinase studio, we know this kind of profit-oriented game studio, they ruin a lot of good games already. We don't know how the TWOW is going to rule the SEA realm,this is our ture player suggestion: Do not surrender to them, do not abandon TWOW principles, making easy money will kill the TWOW.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
What announcement? Not everyone here is able to join discord. Some are banned for speaking their opinions.
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
They did what's best for everyone. The Chinese players who speak English and are already adapted to the server can stay without any discriminatory action removing them. Those that can't follow the rules can fuck right off.
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The server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
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Lol, if they were only communicating in guild chat this wouldn't have been a problem and such drastic measures wouldn't have been necessary. Then instead of seeing an announcement for a SEA server, you'd get one that would finally separate normal players and HC to deal with the population problem. No, this is a consequence of their refusal to follow the rules and shitting up the server by spamming in their own language in virtually all popular hubs.Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 amThe server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
Admittedly, I am painting with a broad brush here. We had other Chinese players who followed the rules and were always respectful. It was extremely rare to see people from <Tai Hao Wan La> do this shit and I don't think I saw it once. But unfortunately, this new wave of players is pure cancer. Everyone can curse whoever is responsible for sending them here, since they've done irreparable damage and also fucked over the Chinese players who were previously operating here without issue.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
That's a good update. When has this been announced, and when will this update commence?Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 amThe server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
Greetings from Ham(da)(the)... (warr) (getter) (etc..)
GIT GUD
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
There's no specific date, but they did say before they were aiming for October. Then two more weeks after the SEA server to implement the new patch. All in all, things should probably be all good by November.Hamalam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:26 amThat's a good update. When has this been announced, and when will this update commence?Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 amThe server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
Plus, school is starting, so I imagine (or rather, hope?) that the kids will be forced to stop playing, or playing as much.
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Sometime this morning or late last night I believe by Akalix, it was announced on Discord and I refuse to touch public Discords for hygiene reasons so I can't give you an exact channel, just saw it reposted elsewhere.Hamalam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:26 amThat's a good update. When has this been announced, and when will this update commence?Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 amThe server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
Looks like it won't come into effect until the SEA server is launched and that will come with a cap of 10k players per server also.
Not really sure why they don't announce this stuff on the forum
Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
Yah, I know what you mean but the #Announcements channel is safe. No need for compulsory handwashing after reading this.Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:35 amSometime this morning or late last night I believe by Akalix, it was announced on Discord and I refuse to touch public Discords for hygiene reasons so I can't give you an exact channel, just saw it reposted elsewhere.Hamalam wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:26 amThat's a good update. When has this been announced, and when will this update commence?Tieku wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 am
The server is being updated so it is no longer able to display (or even attempt to) Hanzi characters which will stop any unfortunate segregation of communities communicating solely in guild chat.
Solves the issue of the moderation staff being unable to police public channels as well as users literally cannot communicate in Chinese
Looks like it won't come into effect until the SEA server is launched and that will come with a cap of 10k players per server also.
Not really sure why they don't announce this stuff on the forum
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Re: Stop Dodging Us, Turtle
I think you won't be allowed to use their symbols in the normal realm chatsHctwowfan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:16 pmHow naive can you be? 7k chinese are sitting pretty in their gchats speaking to each other in chinese, that's not against tos. Why would they move to the sea server once it launches? Theres zero incentive to do so. If you don't force them off the server, nothing will change. The queue remains the same, the overpopulation in every single zone remains the same, the inability to complete more than 1 quest per hour remains the same.