Majestik51 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:27 amany approx realease dates?
and 1 more thing. is it Hyjal gonna be accessible?
Please make it happen i love this place.
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Enceebe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:34 pmWhy not rogues? All they need are some new horseshoes that make no sound. Surely the genius goblin engineurs of the horde can come up with a solution for that. "Have you ever seen a Tauren stalk a Python? Of course you haven't...thats because Tauren are so adept at blending in with their surroundings"Kaktus96 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:24 amI just can't really think of a class that would fit Tauren other than the 4 they can already be.Bayanni wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:19 amHype for Gilneas, but I agree with Plainbear. Tauren still have the lowest total class count and could use at least 1-2 more options. If Paladin isn't possible, then Priest would be my recommendation.
Also, are there more class tweaks/changes coming under that gameplay section?
Paladin? No. Alliance exclusive. Unless alliance gets shamans.
Rogues? Not really. Unless the Grimtotem show them some kind of hidden stealth ability idk.
But ya on a serious note Druid is something like a special/hero class exclusive for nightelves and tauren. I really wish all races had an exclusive class. Like Tinker for goblin/gnomes anyways. Feral and Moonkin are the stealth and caster specc for tauren.
It would be better to give them sets designed for one specc and not the jack of all trades but master of non sets they mostly have from pvp and pve endgame content. For example make a stormshroud Armor-Set/Wolfshead Helm(both grant already energy) questline similar to t0.5, but only for feral cat/bear druids. Or new leather working recipes that update these two and other sets with druid speccs in mind.
Tauren Rogue was a meme. A lot of the class combination on Retail WoW are memes that were retconned to be canon because Retail WoW and Activision are creatively bankrupt. Next one is Gnome and Gnome Demon Hunters.
The canonic story of Warcraft is even different from Vanilla WoW. A lot of things in Vanilla were also retconned so the game can be functional and playable. For example the Forsaken should not be part of the Horde, they should have been a separate faction, but were made playable and part of the Horde, because probably a lot of people wanted to play them from Warcraft 3.
Remember, just because Turtle WoW is adding new things to the game, it doesn't mean that anything goes. There used to be those "level 255, fun server, new races" where you can play as a Naga, Ogre or Murloc and it was really broken and horrible, but this is not those servers.
Re: Patch 1.16.6 — Work in progress!
Yes, you pick a human as a hunter to level it once it's available.
Slowly turtling my way up.
Re: Patch 1.16.6 — Work in progress!
I probably found another thing coming in next patch
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I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.
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And here's me still hoping for Dwarf Shamans and Undead Paladins :D
Anyway, awesome changes, I'm super hyped for the update! <3
Anyway, awesome changes, I'm super hyped for the update! <3
Nydas - 60 High Elf Mage (Nordanaar)
Farren - 60 Tauren Shaman (Nordanaar)
Gothric - 23 Human Paladin (Nordanaar)
Markal - 58 Undead Priest (Tel'Abim)
Farren - 60 Tauren Shaman (Nordanaar)
Gothric - 23 Human Paladin (Nordanaar)
Markal - 58 Undead Priest (Tel'Abim)
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The planed race and maybe faction change option in the Store should have a higher priority.
I could see that as a feature many would be interessted in.
I could see that as a feature many would be interessted in.
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Turtle's main feature is custom content and not correcting player's race choices. It's nice that they do that as well, but giving stuff like server stability, respawn rates or custom content priority is not wrong, in my opinion.
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He is being ironic and trolling.Pothi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:25 pmSomeone is salty as he is no longer the king of a braindead dps class :PMyclassisbroke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:34 amI hope you guys are buffing Paladins... Please... I Hate not being able to one shot Naxx geared warriors, can only get them pesky buggers to 5% in a global.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
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Crusader strike Drains mana like a motherfucker and pallies are REALLY, but REALLY minmaxing dependent to deal damage.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.Pothi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:25 pmSomeone is salty as he is no longer the king of a braindead dps class :PMyclassisbroke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:34 amI hope you guys are buffing Paladins... Please... I Hate not being able to one shot Naxx geared warriors, can only get them pesky buggers to 5% in a global.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
You will never see a Ret in T2 or T3, maximum AQ40 gear and even that needs rep grind to get the parts.
Also pally rotation is all over the place since no one cared to make a deep technical guide about TW pally, there are paladins doing retarded damage and there are pallies doing near zero damage.
Unless TW decides to embrace Spelladin, Paladins being OP in PVP is a one of 10 due to minmax and sacrificing mana in process.
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So what's the ideal spell usage in your opinion?Bittermens wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:36 pm
Crusader strike Drains mana like a motherfucker and pallies are REALLY, but REALLY minmaxing dependent to deal damage.
You will never see a Ret in T2 or T3, maximum AQ40 gear and even that needs rep grind to get the parts.
Also pally rotation is all over the place since no one cared to make a deep technical guide about TW pally, there are paladins doing retarded damage and there are pallies doing near zero damage.
Unless TW decides to embrace Spelladin, Paladins being OP in PVP is a one of 10 due to minmax and sacrificing mana in process.
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because the brain dead auto attacking of vanilla was soooooo much better.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.Pothi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:25 pmSomeone is salty as he is no longer the king of a braindead dps class :PMyclassisbroke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:34 amI hope you guys are buffing Paladins... Please... I Hate not being able to one shot Naxx geared warriors, can only get them pesky buggers to 5% in a global.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
Crusader strike is a stable of ret and especially prot. I don't want to see Pal tanking die because your upitty about pvp. It honestly wouldn't be seen as a problem if paladin's weren't a huge draw for the server. Everyone wants to try out a paladin here.
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maby to balance sides need dwarf shaman and undead paladin. (fallen paladins)
about shaman tanking would be good making some fire totem work similar to paladin concentration. and all spells tied to rockbiter weapon. its really hard on low levels hold agro if dps just randomly pew pew alla round and not assisting tank target.
p.s lower totem place for shamans in healing tree so they are awaulable from 10lvl its help with mana isues (totemic focus) place tham in ench tree replacing with +10% mana
about shaman tanking would be good making some fire totem work similar to paladin concentration. and all spells tied to rockbiter weapon. its really hard on low levels hold agro if dps just randomly pew pew alla round and not assisting tank target.
p.s lower totem place for shamans in healing tree so they are awaulable from 10lvl its help with mana isues (totemic focus) place tham in ench tree replacing with +10% mana
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New content and old content should coexist on turtle wow, nothing so major should be removed.Beertaster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:38 pmbecause the brain dead auto attacking of vanilla was soooooo much better.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
Crusader strike is a stable of ret and especially prot. I don't want to see Pal tanking die because your upitty about pvp. It honestly wouldn't be seen as a problem if paladin's weren't a huge draw for the server. Everyone wants to try out a paladin here.
Could have added a cooldown on crusader strike or made some other solution if the stacking is too high, and if people like the proc thing added a new spell or seal instead and it would satisfy both parties.
Im just against the removal of vanilla spells, since i prefer classic paladin playstyle.
This would be fine on any other server since they will just do random crapholia of throwing stuff togheter, but the trademark is kinda being steady and not remove vanilla stuff here.
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I really really like the paladin changes to spells. What's been changed was unused and useless spells with low proc rates or completely counter intuitive to the classes design. The deluge of paladin players also seem to agree.
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Okay now actually improve stormstrike amongst other things so that every new player isnt just another ret pally
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I was fine with crusader strike, new spells are always fun.Beertaster wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:38 pmbecause the brain dead auto attacking of vanilla was soooooo much better.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
Crusader strike is a stable of ret and especially prot. I don't want to see Pal tanking die because your upitty about pvp. It honestly wouldn't be seen as a problem if paladin's weren't a huge draw for the server. Everyone wants to try out a paladin here.
But i was really sad about the removal of vanilla paladin since i really do care about the class. :(
Im also fine with proccing with a new seal or spell as long as it does not come a the cost of removing everyting about the original paladin way of playing.
It is a different class now, most people flock to the server because its free, not because they truly care about world of warcraft the way it was back in the day.
Would be better to make the debuff more viable by buffing judgement of the crusader, keep crusader strike and perhaps add a new ability or seal if people enjoy proccing weapons. :)
Spells and class identity have not been removed from any other class, its just paladin that no longer play like the original class at all.
Freedom to choose is what i want.
Hope it is not a permanent removal of the original judgement, would be really sad if that was the case.
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I leveled a paladin back in vanilla, and did some raiding. Trust me. Nothing of value has been lost. I don't think your coming at this in good faith either. Its just vague I want old pally because something something something. Its a pivot from your original argument of nerfing pvp paladins because of their holy burst. All this new direction does is reach the same effect from a new angle while trying not to sound unpopular.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:08 am
I was fine with crusader strike, new spells are always fun.
But i was really sad about the removal of vanilla paladin since i really do care about the class. :(
Im also fine with proccing with a new seal or spell as long as it does not come a the cost of removing everyting about the original paladin way of playing.
It is a different class now, most people flock to the server because its free, not because they truly care about world of warcraft the way it was back in the day.
Would be better to make the debuff more viable by buffing judgement of the crusader, keep crusader strike and perhaps add a new ability or seal if people enjoy proccing weapons. :)
Spells and class identity have not been removed from any other class, its just paladin that no longer play like the original class at all.
Freedom to choose is what i want.
Hope it is not a permanent removal of the original judgement, would be really sad if that was the case.
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Would be nice if one could increase the debuff timer a few seconds to perhaps 12 and make holy strike refresh judgement if possible.Beertaster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:10 pmI leveled a paladin back in vanilla, and did some raiding. Trust me. Nothing of value has been lost. I don't think your coming at this in good faith either. Its just vague I want old pally because something something something. Its a pivot from your original argument of nerfing pvp paladins because of their holy burst. All this new direction does is reach the same effect from a new angle while trying not to sound unpopular.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:08 am
I was fine with crusader strike, new spells are always fun.
But i was really sad about the removal of vanilla paladin since i really do care about the class. :(
Im also fine with proccing with a new seal or spell as long as it does not come a the cost of removing everyting about the original paladin way of playing.
It is a different class now, most people flock to the server because its free, not because they truly care about world of warcraft the way it was back in the day.
Would be better to make the debuff more viable by buffing judgement of the crusader, keep crusader strike and perhaps add a new ability or seal if people enjoy proccing weapons. :)
Spells and class identity have not been removed from any other class, its just paladin that no longer play like the original class at all.
Freedom to choose is what i want.
Hope it is not a permanent removal of the original judgement, would be really sad if that was the case.
Great Sun and Glorious Leader of the Bring Back Judgement of the Crusader movement.
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Had to look that up :P
Doesnt look as bad as i imagined lol.
But nha, goblin shellcoin priest would be more fun if anything weird has to be added in my opinion.
Could add new priest racials, where players can buy blessings from a vendor machine for 1silver.
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seal of command/holy shock build is lostBeertaster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:10 pmI leveled a paladin back in vanilla, and did some raiding. Trust me. Nothing of value has been lost. I don't think your coming at this in good faith either. Its just vague I want old pally because something something something. Its a pivot from your original argument of nerfing pvp paladins because of their holy burst. All this new direction does is reach the same effect from a new angle while trying not to sound unpopular.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:08 am
I was fine with crusader strike, new spells are always fun.
But i was really sad about the removal of vanilla paladin since i really do care about the class. :(
Im also fine with proccing with a new seal or spell as long as it does not come a the cost of removing everyting about the original paladin way of playing.
It is a different class now, most people flock to the server because its free, not because they truly care about world of warcraft the way it was back in the day.
Would be better to make the debuff more viable by buffing judgement of the crusader, keep crusader strike and perhaps add a new ability or seal if people enjoy proccing weapons. :)
Spells and class identity have not been removed from any other class, its just paladin that no longer play like the original class at all.
Freedom to choose is what i want.
Hope it is not a permanent removal of the original judgement, would be really sad if that was the case.
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Is there a best-guess publishing date for this yet? Looking forward to some Troll Warlock goodness.
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Night elf mages would be a great addition too. Keep up the good work!
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I mean, not all classes need be complicated or have a bloated rotation.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.Pothi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:25 pmSomeone is salty as he is no longer the king of a braindead dps class :PMyclassisbroke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:34 amI hope you guys are buffing Paladins... Please... I Hate not being able to one shot Naxx geared warriors, can only get them pesky buggers to 5% in a global.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
Paladin and Hunter are popular because they're cool and simpler.
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Well it would be like moving aspect of the cheeta, aspect of the monkey/wolf into aspect of the hawk.Shroudedsoul wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:56 pmI mean, not all classes need be complicated or have a bloated rotation.Wrathweaver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:57 pmHe is being ironic and trolling.
But Paladin is probably the most braindead class atm yes, and made much worse on turtle.
Crusader strike- crusader strike-crusader strike.... and thats the class as of now
Really hope they have the decency to do something, mistakes happen and we are all human.
But they cant just stick with this forever and pretend like nothing is wrong and start nerfing proc weapons.
Paladin and Hunter are popular because they're cool and simpler.
And then make it auto switch, not in combate= cheeta, in melee=monkey/wolf and if ranged attacking hawk.
Removing stuff makes the class boring to play for people that are here to escape blizz streamlining.
Would have played retail if it wasnt for all the removals of everything that made the game fun for me.
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