If Fresh server is coming, PLEASE make it PVP server.

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Post by Godking » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm

I think i speak for everyone here that we need a PvP only server.

You can then just remove warmode from the OG server.

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Post by Elisleris » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:10 pm

How you imagine crossfaction feature of Turtle Wow on PvP server?

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Post by Bellybutton » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:29 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here
What makes you think that?
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Post by Ingameacc12345 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:42 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here
Think again.

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Post by Elisleris » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:00 pm

Let's summarize: world buff removed in raid, in order to recover losses introduced stacking shaman totems and paladin blessing. On PvP realm impossible to communicate between Horde and Alliance. So what sense to remove much unique Turtle features to be like as Wow Classic?

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Post by Akalix » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm

We do not have plans for a new realm or server. Turtle's entire philosophy is being long-lasting and providing a place for people to call home for years to come. The "fresh" mindset leads to fractured communities and increased burnout.

Level an alt, start a cult PvP betting ring, do some custom quests--that's what we're here for.
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Post by Fighttomorrow » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:49 pm

Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
We do not have plans for a new realm or server.
I love this answer.

But... dynamic respawns or just faster respawns? :( I love to see how Turtle WoW has grown since I've been playing, but it's been a slog lately (especially us in the hardcore side of the house).

I'd like to bribe someone with candy.

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Post by Akalix » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:53 pm

Fighttomorrow wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:49 pm
Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
We do not have plans for a new realm or server.
I love this answer.

But... dynamic respawns or just faster respawns? :( I love to see how Turtle WoW has grown since I've been playing, but it's been a slog lately (especially us in the hardcore side of the house).

I'd like to bribe someone with candy.
We have dynamic respawns implemented, and have been manually increasing the rates a bit more in areas which need it.

Though Akalix (regular) and Akalox (HC) do accept candy at all times turtle_tongue
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Post by Xerilin » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:39 am

Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
start a cult PvP betting ring
Somebody please do that already! turtle_in_love
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Post by Element19090 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:59 am

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here that we need a PvP only server.

You can then just remove warmode from the OG server.
I'd love a PvP server without the crossfaction element. I love the turtle wow additions and would really love to be able to play turtle with a Proper PvP server option. I hope with the increased population this becomes an option. :)
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Post by Element19090 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:01 am

Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
We do not have plans for a new realm or server. Turtle's entire philosophy is being long-lasting and providing a place for people to call home for years to come. The "fresh" mindset leads to fractured communities and increased burnout.

Level an alt, start a cult PvP betting ring, do some custom quests--that's what we're here for.
It's not even fresh that i care about it's just having a proper PvP server experience with proper horde/alliance separation that i and many others would enjoy.
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Post by Redmagejoe » Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:40 am

Element19090 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:01 am
It's not even fresh that i care about it's just having a proper PvP server experience with proper horde/alliance separation that i and many others would enjoy.
As Akalix made clear, that does not align with Turtle's philosophy and thus is not something they will devote their limited resources toward. It is very fortunate, then, that you can continue to enjoy Turtle WoW, while also simultaneously patronizing one of the many other vanilla WoW private servers which do offer PvP realms without cross-faction.

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Post by Mac » Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:56 am

The alternative to making a fresh server would be making another server and transferring anyone who wants to PVP over to it. Give players the chance to choose if they want to stay on Turtle RP or continue their characters on Turtle PVP. Then the PVP would start not fresh because it would possibly have some very geared players on it.

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Post by Element19090 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:57 am

Redmagejoe wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:40 am
Element19090 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:01 am
It's not even fresh that i care about it's just having a proper PvP server experience with proper horde/alliance separation that i and many others would enjoy.
As Akalix made clear, that does not align with Turtle's philosophy and thus is not something they will devote their limited resources toward. It is very fortunate, then, that you can continue to enjoy Turtle WoW, while also simultaneously patronizing one of the many other vanilla WoW private servers which do offer PvP realms without cross-faction.
Well I like The changes and additions Turtle wow has made to the world and to classes. I like the extra dungeons and raids, I like the New BG and i think it's sad not many people like to play it. That being said I do think a PVP option would be a great addition as do many others and hopefully as this server continues to grow and as more people who have interest in the same thing express the desire for a turtle PvP option the devs will change their mind.

More and more people want this option and so more and more people will continue to request it. The only way to get it is ti push for it.
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Post by Heine » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:03 am

most pvp servers lead to faction disbalance heavy affecting indoor outdoor activities

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Post by Freddofooz » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:11 am

Fresh server is such a bad idea, especially it being a pvp one.

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Post by Sinrek » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:48 am

Dude, there's a WARMODE made specifically for that. You're always free to just type /pvp on and blast away.
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Post by Fighttomorrow » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:34 pm

I think Warmode is fine. I see tons of people with warmode on in all the zones I’m in. This entire suggestion just screams “I WANT TO GANK ALL THE LOWBIES!” to me.

I can point you to another server where you can PvP all day. That’s just not Turtle.

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Post by Fighttomorrow » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:42 pm

Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:53 pm
Fighttomorrow wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:49 pm
Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
We do not have plans for a new realm or server.
I love this answer.

But... dynamic respawns or just faster respawns? :( I love to see how Turtle WoW has grown since I've been playing, but it's been a slog lately (especially us in the hardcore side of the house).

I'd like to bribe someone with candy.
We have dynamic respawns implemented, and have been manually increasing the rates a bit more in areas which need it.

Though Akalix (regular) and Akalox (HC) do accept candy at all times turtle_tongue
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Post by Pothi » Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:26 pm

Optional Warmode and 1 "big" server is the way to go.

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Post by Kemokid » Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:48 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here
nope

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Post by Vikare » Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:51 pm

Splitting the community off the existing five year old server sounds like a depressing prospect.

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Post by Reploidrocsa » Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:53 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here
Absolutelly not

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Post by Lasershadow » Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:16 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone-
NO.

You don't.

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Post by Pistol » Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:15 am

As High King of the Server I think I speak for everyone when I say that Nodoba should be given five thousand gold for the honorable two years I've spent on the server
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Post by Xerilin » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:40 am

Pistol wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:15 am
As High King of the Server I think I speak for everyone when I say that Nodoba should be given five thousand gold for the honorable two years I've spent on the server
You do indeed speak for everyone, High King!
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Post by Kairion » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:41 am

If Classic wow re-release has told me anything its that people don't want a fair PvP server. The vast majority of players stuck to the faction with the overwhelming majority. Even if the PvP server turns out to have perfect factionbalance, Splitting the existing Serverpop in two just as some much needed young blood has entered the server is bad for the longjevity of the Project.

But call me a cynic, i think the community on the current PvE server would be nicer for having a PvP server alternative that appeals to the more "Involved" audience :D

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Post by Xudo » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:40 pm

Kairion wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:41 am
If Classic wow re-release has told me anything its that people don't want a fair PvP server. The vast majority of players stuck to the faction with the overwhelming majority. Even if the PvP server turns out to have perfect factionbalance, Splitting the existing Serverpop in two just as some much needed young blood has entered the server is bad for the longjevity of the Project.

But call me a cynic, i think the community on the current PvE server would be nicer for having a PvP server alternative that appeals to the more "Involved" audience :D
In this case, we'll need two "pvp" servers. One with majority of Alliance. Other with majority of Horde.
It won't happen anyway, just a funny thought.
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Post by Tllap » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:58 pm

Akalix wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
We do not have plans for a new realm or server. Turtle's entire philosophy is being long-lasting and providing a place for people to call home for years to come. The "fresh" mindset leads to fractured communities and increased burnout.

Level an alt, start a cult PvP betting ring, do some custom quests--that's what we're here for.
Love that answer. Thats why i love this server. I can pause playing anytime and dont have that feel, that i need to play to be able to get somewhere, before it becomes non relevant.

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Post by Ozur » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:20 pm

Godking wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:58 pm
I think i speak for everyone here that we need a PvP only server
No, you don't

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Post by Liatris » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:49 am

Please not a PvP server.. I joined TurtleWoW to get away from those.

I get that the increased population of the server is causing a lot of frustration (with lag, waiting for respawns, etc.) but there are other solutions to that besides making a new server.
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Post by Bluecenter » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:08 pm

Liatris wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:49 am
Please not a PvP server.. I joined TurtleWoW to get away from those.

I get that the increased population of the server is causing a lot of frustration (with lag, waiting for respawns, etc.) but there are other solutions to that besides making a new server.

It really can be frustrating trying to level, especially if you're playing a slower leveling class. Just saw 4900ish pop a bit ago, and while I have seen respawn's pick up pace, it still feels like sludging through, as someone mentioned earlier.

I see the reasons for not having a separate server, pvp or otherwise, but I hope there are more dynamic solutions in the works that bring back the fun and joy of Turtle.

Remaining optimistic, but I'm really dreading 50 to 60. I can't imagine the crowds if the population maintains or grows.

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Post by Fkdamodlicee » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:47 pm

Lmao typical grognards with their "WELL I'VE BEEN PLAYING 5 YEARS HERE" coming out of the woodwork.

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Post by Bluecenter » Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:28 pm

Fkdamodlicee wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:47 pm
Lmao typical grognards with their "WELL I'VE BEEN PLAYING 5 YEARS HERE" coming out of the woodwork.
It's not that their aren't aren't benefits of a large server pop, there def are: Professions & the AH are more useful, BG's pop much faster, and LFG is more active.

I'm not into my 5th month yet (more or less 5th year), and leveling/questing just aren't as immersive and fun as they were. just my opinion,but I don't think I'm alone in feeling it.

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Post by Pistol » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:01 am

Must have been a while since a half baked fresh server dropped for there to be this many complainers.
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