Aubreykun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:15 am
OK. I don't think normal levellers "should be competitive" in BGs.
They should not be equal. They should be competitive.
As an example I imagine case when one is equipped in items from yellow quests, without any tricks with boosting for red quests. He didn't manage to get all BiSes from dungeons and AH, but managed to level engineering to 150, found crafters and bought second-grade items to fill the gaps.
Example of typical leveler horde rogue:
head Flying Tiger Goggles 27 armor 4 stamina 4 spirit
neck - missing
shoulders - Reinforced woolen shoulders 29 armor 4 stamina 4 spirit
back - Barkeeper's Cloak 16 armor 3 stamina
chest - Camouflaged Tunic 81 armor 6 sta 2 agi
wrist - Whispering Cuffs 37 armor +4 agi +3 sta
gloves - Kodo Hide Gloves 59 armor +2 str +1 sta
waist - Murloc Scale Belt 42 armor +3 agi +2 str
legs - Dark Leather Pants 72 armor +8 agi
boots - Dark Leather Boots 53 armor +5 agi
ring 1 - Ring of the Moon +1 str +3 sta
ring 2 - Ring of Scorn -3 spi +4 sta
trinket 1 - Spiritual Feather +1 spi +2hp5
trinket 2 - Tazan's Tusk +4 attack power
main hand - Big Bronze Knife 10.0 DPS +3 sta.
off hand - Big Bronze Knife 10.0 DPS +3 sta.
Total
416 armor, 34 stamina, 9 spirit, 22 agility, 5 strength, 4 attack power
If he decides to prepare a little bit and assist to some red quests, which are doable with partner of level 30. I mean don't require massive boost like killing Arugal in SFK or elite dwarves in Hillsbrad.
Example of such (horde) rogue:
head Green Tinted Goggles 35 armor 8 stamina 7 spirit. no enchant
neck - missing
shoulders - Reinforced woolen shoulders 29 armor 4 stamina 4 spirit. no enchant
back - Spritekin Cloak 20 armor 4 agility 3 stamina
chest - Dry Moss Tunic 86 armor 8 stamina 2 agility. enchanted with 3 stamina and 24 armor
wrist - Whispering Cuffs 37 armor +4 agi +3 sta. enchanted with 5 stamina
gloves - Gloves of the Moon 48 armor +3 sta +3 agi. enchanted with 3 stamina and 24 armor
waist - Beastmaster's Girdle 51 armor +5 sta +5 agi. enchanted with 2 stamina
legs - Dark Leather Pants 72 armor +8 agi. enchanted with 3 stamina and 24 armor
boots - Draftsman Boots 61 armor +5 str +5 sta. enchanted with minor speed (because anything else is useless)
ring 1 - Circlet of Durotar +7 Agility, +1 Stamina, +2 Spirit
ring 2 - Ring of Scorn -3 spi +4 sta
trinket 1 - Spiritual Feather +1 spi +2hp5
trinket 2 - Tazan's Tusk +4 attack power
main hand - Pearl-handled Dagger 11.5 DPS +2 agi +2 sta. enchanted with +2 damage
off hand - Pearl-handled Dagger 11.5 DPS +2 agi +2 sta. enchanted with +2 damage
ranged weapon - irrelevant. no bow with stats
Total stats from equipment:
439 armor, 48 stamina, 11 spirit, 42 agility, 2hp5, 4 attack power
add to this amount 16 stamina and 72 armor, minor speed and 2x2 damage to melee damage from simple enchants
In contrast I add here horde rogue in full bis and same enchants.
head - Speedy Racer Goggles 27 armor 14 agi 14 int
neck - Scout's Medallion 6 agi 2 sta
shoulders - Reinforced woolen shoulders 29 armor 4 stamina 4 spirit
back - Sentry Cloak 21 armor +5 sta +4 agi
chest - Blackened Defias Armor 92 armor +11 sta +3 agi +4 str
wrist - Whispering Cuffs 37 armor +4 agi +3 sta
gloves - Scouting Gloves 51 armor +4 sta +4 agi
waist - Deviate Scale Belt 51 armor +6 sta +5 agi +3 spi
legs - Leggings of the Fang 79 armor +5 str +4 sta +9 agi
feet - Feet of the Lynx 63 armor +8 agi +3 str
ring 1 - Circlet of Durotar +7 Agility, +1 Stamina, +2 Spirit
ring 2 - Seal of Sylvanas +8 sta +3 str.
trinket 1 - Arena Grand Master +1% to dodge
trinket 2 - Tazan's Tusk +4 attack power. TWoW item. (in fact it will be Insignia of the Horde, but I maximize stats here)
main hand - Assassin's Blade 15.5 DPS +4 agi +3 str.
off hand - Assassin's Blade 15.5 DPS +4 agi +3 str.
ranged weapon - irrelevant
Total stats from equipment:
450 armor, 48 stamina, 9 spirit, 72 agility 20 strength, 14 intellect, 4 attack power 1% dodge
Without enchants, twink has same survivability, but much higher damage output.
If you dedicate some time, you will be better than someone who just joined. If you dedicate a lot, then you even more better with special buttons like second life with Furbolg pouch, arena trinket.
With better gear you get more power, but not more survivability.
The fact is you won't be 3-4 times more powerful like it is now.