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Vladis

If they inroduce things you have outlined, I quit SoD and go back to Turtle immediatelly :-)

Vladis

„We might possibly consider other alternative tier sets such as Poison Rogue, Melee Hunter and Tank Shaman after Class Changes 2 are complete and these specializations are more fleshed out.“ What does „Class Changes 2“ mean? This sounds like a standing name for planned changes regarding class balan...

Vladis

We are also planning on buffing set bonuses on the Legacy Rogue and Hunter tier sets due to them not requiring any new sets as to not leave them out. Melee Hunter and Rogue Tank could potentially be alternative sets for those two classes. Please, stop this melee hunter nonsense, please. Don't ruin ...

Vladis

So Paladin and Druid get the same new tier sets ? Non-healing specs get all tiers while healing specs only 2.5 ? Am I reading it correctly ?

Vladis

Stopped playing and still waiting (since june 2022) for melee surv hunter not to be a one-button class on Turtle. It would be awesome and I would be back playing in a second if they added: 1. This lacerate dot spell, AP scalling to RS and MB + make MB to proc from offensive actions, not dodge, under...

Vladis

I am really hoping that the teased patch 1.16.4 will bring some additional class tweaks :-)

Vladis

Hi,

pls see this thread, its already there :-)

viewtopic.php?p=23826#p23826

Vladis

This looks awesome, love the story behind.

Also on another note, will 1.16.4 contain further class tweaks ?

Vladis

Yep, agree. the game is better with a wider variety of playable tanks.

Vladis

If u look at this, you will see that survival was meant to be melee back in a day.

http://www.classicwowtalents.appspot.co ... =1124125_3

At least I would really love to see the lacerate spell "back" in the game.

Vladis

"Engame" dungeon and raid armor sets for non-meta specs. Enhacement shaman mail armor set (all existing shaman sets are either ele or resto oriented). AGI+STR+INT+STAM mail oriented on Stormstrike, WF and/or shocks. Druid bear leather armor set (all existing druid leather sets are predomin...

Vladis

Would like to see a rank 2 of aspect of the Wolf, with 300-350 melee AP. AAtalent next to Wypern sting, like a trap expert talent - being able to use traps in combat and increasing their damage further by 30%. Maybe a trap similar to Immolation and/or explosive trap that does some other type of dam...

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Thank you Phoenixphire. Well presented and clear arguments. As you said, let me slightly refrase it - does class tweaking have greater importance than TWoW vision of adding new content ? Probably not. But will the custom content be more enjoyable with fixed, interesting and fun to play vanilla class...

Vladis

Yep, would be nice, but beware of stacking of improved slaying talent (surival tree) so it is not too OP.

Vladis

I do agree with many points presented here and also disagree with some, but in overall, it is possible to make classes unique and at the same time tweak underated specs. I think that for example making prot palas and bears on par with warrior tanks, tweaking enha shamans so they are not one-button c...

Vladis

Making underated and badly designed specs viable and fun to play actually makes them desirable for group content and increases their chances in participating in the "shared experience". If I decide to play enha now and not taking Nightall, I would have hard time participate in the engame c...

Vladis

And one last little thing, you are using "white washed" wrong, atleast try to hide that you are severly hurt by twitter. Don't grasp at straws. You want to compromise a core part of a class so you can have yet another melee class. PLAY A WARRIOR OR ROGUE. You want to white wash the game s...

Vladis

I dont understand why some people attack other players for trying to make some underrated specs more viable. There is no intention to alter other playstyles and force someone to do/play something they do not want to. There are objectively some specs in classic that were designed just poorly and priv...

Vladis

(this one I half-stealed from vanilla+) Aspect of the Wolf: Increase you Melee AP by X% but decrease your Range AP by X% and you can use your Traps in Combat. This way you still have the hunter feeling, pulling mobs to you. In addition, the use of Traps in Combat solves the AOE problem, cause there...

Vladis

What I would love to see on a melee hunter is a AoE-like attack outside of traps. My suggestion would be pretty fitting on group content. Counterattack : Only usable after you, your pet, a group or raid member dodged, blocked or parried. Strike you target with X damage + X% AP scaling and up to X e...

Vladis

Well, I feel the same.

Vladis

Hello I am playing melee hunter and I have just found out that entering combat and getting out of combat differs between the open world and dungeons. In the open world I can still lay down my trap even when my party members already fight. Trap can by laid down before I start to attack. In dungeons w...

Vladis

Thank you guys for good suggestions

I also suggested introducing a mail set for melee hunter in a different thread. I hope some suggestions will make it to the game.

Vladis

Mail armor set or weapon/accessory set with agi, stam and intelect for melee hunter. Set that buffs raptor strike and perhaps buffs/makes mongoose bite and counterattack usable from offensive player/pet actions or after casting raptor strike. Or maybe makes explo and flame traps usable in combat. Pl...

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And btw I would like to add that perhaps OP, but definitively me, suggest these changes to certain classes in order to enhance the RP and pve experience. This custom content here is awesome but it would be a lot more enjoyable with intetesting class gameplay. Me for example, would like to RP as a Re...

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Classes are Boring and to play them is a chore (Atleast the ones I played) Turtle WoW is super fun, all the work the team put into it paid off, but it could be better. As the title says, I think the one big thing this server needs to improve are the classes. Thats why im writing this, I want to enj...

Vladis

You are kinda right, the server you have mentioned does a great job with tuning vanilla classes. There is definively a space to take some insipiration from it.

Vladis

BTW, the Lacerate spell, was it ever implemented or or will it be ? I saw it on the website under changes to classes but it is no longer there. Suggestion - and actually, if it was a dot spell, the dot tick could for example have a chance to activite MB outside of its dodge requirement. Something li...

Vladis

Hello fellow turtles. I saw a lot of post made about melee hunters. With a lot of different suggestion I think we should mix all of them into a single post for make it easier IN SHORT the main suggestions about make melee hunter viable are -melee skills dont scale at all. Should scale with ap -allo...

Vladis

You got me here ! Agree in all points. Melee classic hunter does not have to be superb DPS, just so it becomes playable and useful in group content.

Vladis

Awesome guys !

@Torta or @Gurky any plans to go further in improving melee survival after 1.16.1 ? AP scaling and more space to use MB and CA ? Thank you.

Vladis

Good idea, but I still think that given ranged combat is not usable under the AotW, MB an CA should proc from offensive actions under this Aspect. The best solution imho would be to make MB and CA to proc from melee (MB) and pet (CA) crits. It would still be rng based like dodge and parry but now vi...

Vladis

Raukodor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:14 am
Any response to this? More melee hunters agree?

Yeah, we have to keep this debate alive. It would be great for melee hunters. The latest changes went the right direction.

Vladis

Dear all, I would like to revive the debate on melee hunter. There are some great changes proposed here and I think they have great merit. CC traps do not have to be usable in combat but dps traps such as explo and flame trap could be changed in such way. MB and CA should scale in damage in some way...

Vladis

Great discussion there, I think we should revive the debate given the newest patch notes.

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