Ban system

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Ban system

Post by Slyze » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:00 pm

Hello,
It is possible to give the reason after the ban of someone ?

I mean if someone get banned he need a reason but the current system forces players to send a message on the website to know the reason its time consuming for the banned players and for the gm doing the work i just got banned (Maybe for a good reason) but there is no message with the reason in it.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:18 pm

After 11 hour the gm say : "You violated server rules" with 0 screenshot of the logs come on give me at least the logs in question its insane.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Hctwowfan » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm

If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:12 pm

Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm
If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
Its like arresting people on the street without saying why

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Re: Ban system

Post by Darktifa » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm

A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:40 pm

Darktifa wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm
A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
Nice bro you are toxic to every post talking about chinese if you ban someone you need to give them the reason log even smaller private server get that

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Re: Ban system

Post by Foobs » Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am

Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm
If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
OP this is sound advice.
Darktifa wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm
A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
OP This is a fact.

You seem like a smart person. You know what you did. Unless you're not sure about which one of the rules you broke is what is making you drag this on further.

Here's an Idea. DON"T do any of the things you know you did and you should be ok on the new account.

You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Just accept your punishment and move on.
wary_turtle_head I'm just here for the GM's replies--Carry on!!

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Re: Ban system

Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am

Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
You seem like a smart person.
Ha, good one.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:40 am

Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm
If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
OP this is sound advice.
Darktifa wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm
A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
OP This is a fact.

You seem like a smart person. You know what you did. Unless you're not sure about which one of the rules you broke is what is making you drag this on further.

Here's an Idea. DON"T do any of the things you know you did and you should be ok on the new account.

You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Just accept your punishment and move on.
Who are you ? I dont care about what you say just give reason after ban thats all.
You guys deserve a ban for toxicity honestly you bring nothing useful to the debate. I mean if you have nothing to say just stfu ?

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:41 am

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
You seem like a smart person.
Ha, good one.
Nice toxicity. Help GM ban this guy.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:43 am

Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm


You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Yeah lets ban with blindness i hope you get ban for no reason like me :)

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Re: Ban system

Post by Inovatu » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:27 am

grabing Popcorn for another Shitshow on the Forum, yey

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Re: Ban system

Post by Xa1amandor » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:36 am

Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm
If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
OP this is sound advice.
Darktifa wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm
A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
OP This is a fact.

You seem like a smart person. You know what you did. Unless you're not sure about which one of the rules you broke is what is making you drag this on further.

Here's an Idea. DON"T do any of the things you know you did and you should be ok on the new account.

You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Just accept your punishment and move on.
+1

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:17 am

Xa1amandor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:36 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
Hctwowfan wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:22 pm
If you don't know why you got banned, how about you read the TOS for the first time and figure it out. Can't be that hard to find the rule you violated unless you violated a whole bunch.
OP this is sound advice.
Darktifa wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 pm
A private server is not a democracy, you got what you deserved!
Now either stfup and create a new acc or leave, you won't be missed!
OP This is a fact.

You seem like a smart person. You know what you did. Unless you're not sure about which one of the rules you broke is what is making you drag this on further.

Here's an Idea. DON"T do any of the things you know you did and you should be ok on the new account.

You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Just accept your punishment and move on.
+1
No i made an suggestion your opinion is irrevelant

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Re: Ban system

Post by Inovatu » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:11 am

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
You seem like a smart person.
Ha, good one.
imagine asking for a ban for saying "ha, good one"
man, you must have a fragile ego... wow

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Re: Ban system

Post by Mac » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:14 pm

If you really, truly aren’t sure why you were banned, go to the turtle-wow.org website, log in, and appeal the ban by asking why you were banned. Be polite and courteous. Pretty sure you can get an answer that way.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:01 pm

Inovatu wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:11 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
You seem like a smart person.
Ha, good one.
imagine asking for a ban for saying "ha, good one"
man, you must have a fragile ego... wow
Best to just ignore it. I like trollin' about every so often but sometimes people get so heated that you might as well leave 'em be.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:05 pm

Slyze wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:17 am
Xa1amandor wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:36 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am


OP this is sound advice.



OP This is a fact.

You seem like a smart person. You know what you did. Unless you're not sure about which one of the rules you broke is what is making you drag this on further.

Here's an Idea. DON"T do any of the things you know you did and you should be ok on the new account.

You are NOT entitled to an explanation. This is a private server and your attendance here is strictly invitational not a service for you to demand or expect explanations or reasons as to which one of your bad behaviors warranted a ban.

Just accept your punishment and move on.
+1
No i made an suggestion your opinion is irrevelant
I don't think that's a counterargument... Like, how so is the opinion irrelevant? It involves your issue. It provides a solution to said issue. And explains the reasoning behind it. What about that isn't relevant?
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Re: Ban system

Post by Garlana » Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:50 pm

I'm going to ignore the majority of the flack the OP is getting here, but i agree, if you get banned a bit of transparency wouldn't be a bad thing. It would save time if the reason for the ban was clearly outlined, would save time for the GMS having to respond to the player who's questioning it, also on the flip side, if its some form of ban where the player has been banned without being able to give their valid side of the story, then they can reply back immediately addressing the particular situation, but they can only do this if they know exactly what it was they were banned for.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Hctwowfan » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:08 pm

Agree. OP likely is also getting flack for lack of punctuation (yes I'm serious) and demanding instead of asking for.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:15 pm

Hctwowfan wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:08 pm
Agree. OP likely is also getting flack for lack of punctuation (yes I'm serious) and demanding instead of asking for.
English not my main language but you get the idea

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:16 pm

Inovatu wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:11 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am
Foobs wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:00 am
You seem like a smart person.
Ha, good one.
imagine asking for a ban for saying "ha, good one"
man, you must have a fragile ego... wow
Stop being toxic then, no need for your condescendance.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Slyze » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:17 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:01 pm
Inovatu wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:11 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Aug 19, 2023 3:42 am


Ha, good one.
imagine asking for a ban for saying "ha, good one"
man, you must have a fragile ego... wow
Best to just ignore it. I like trollin' about every so often but sometimes people get so heated that you might as well leave 'em be.
Its called being toxic on a serious discussion

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Re: Ban system

Post by Emilyrose89 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:12 am

skill issue lmao

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Re: Ban system

Post by Akalix » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:12 am

Greetings.

All of this information has been communicated to you via the Appeals portal, however, I will provide it here for you as well.

Here is a brief snippet of your logs:
[World] [(REDACTED)]: There is a way to block chinese from the lft ?
[World] [(REDACTED)]: They dont understand jackshit even simple english xd
[World] [(REDACTED)]: I'm gonna kill every chinese on the server
[World] [(REDACTED)]: I'm not even sure if they are human
Calling any part of our playerbase subhuman will result in a punishment. Your ban duration will not be changed from the original 7 days. Future violations of our rules will be met with harsher punishments.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Inovatu » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:16 am

hahahahah nice one Akalix, thank you :D

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Re: Ban system

Post by Swzn » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:30 am

I got banned for 2 weeks but I am SURE that I did nothing wrong. Can this be related to some hacking ? Or how can I find out more ?

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Re: Ban system

Post by Hctwowfan » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:44 am

Swzn wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:30 am
I got banned for 2 weeks but I am SURE that I did nothing wrong. Can this be related to some hacking ? Or how can I find out more ?
Please xD don't dig yourself into an even deeper hole.

Here's what I would do if I was turtle wow: ok we'll investigate. Takes 3 weeks. We'll keep the acc banned while we investigate, for safety reasons.

Edit: so your claim is you didn't violate TOS. When the community manager shows your records of racist chat, you now claim you've been hacked and it wasn't you. And the hackers didn't use your account to spam rmt website ads or took all your gold and sold all your stuff, they kept questing on your toon and making racist remarks in /world.

It's also against TOS to tell lies to staff btw. So unless you're farming perma bans, just stop.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Swzn » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:58 am

Is this how you think ? Pretty sad. Even if I stay banned for month, I want justice and explanation.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Darktifa » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:57 pm

Akalix wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:12 am
[World] [(REDACTED)]: There is a way to block chinese from the lft ?
[World] [(REDACTED)]: They dont understand jackshit even simple english xd
[World] [(REDACTED)]: I'm gonna kill every chinese on the server
[World] [(REDACTED)]: I'm not even sure if they are human
Racism alert
Well deserved ban, i hope it would be longer...
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Re: Ban system

Post by Bigsmerf » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:53 pm

Swzn wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:58 am
Is this how you think ? Pretty sad. Even if I stay banned for month, I want justice and explanation.
You don't even deserve it at this point. You've openly lied to people, accused damn near everyone of toxicity simply for opposing your wishes and opinions, been straight up RACIST and typed out THREATS targeting a certain group. It doesn't matter if it's in game or not. And you want justice and explanation? I know I contradict myself after saying to just "ignore 'em". But you aren't someone to be ignored. It would be a much better solution to have your antics and bullshit brought to light. Set that right up on a pedestal for all to see, so they KNOW not to give you any more attention.





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Re: Ban system

Post by Swzn » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:10 pm

I am NOT that racist guy, you should read it again.

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Re: Ban system

Post by Akalix » Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:47 pm

Swzn wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:30 am
I got banned for 2 weeks but I am SURE that I did nothing wrong. Can this be related to some hacking ? Or how can I find out more ?
Greetings!

If you have been banned, you can appeal it by logging into our website at https://turtle-wow.org/

Then, click on "Account Management", then click "Contact Support" under "Account status"
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Re: Ban system

Post by Bigsmerf » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:38 pm

Swzn wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:10 pm
I am NOT that racist guy, you should read it again.
So what, the GMs are lying? You do realize they can get fired for that shit, right? Akalix has always been (in my experience) a reliable and decent person with reasoning skills that AT MINIMUM handle the problem just fine. You on the other hand are losing your shit, denying any claims of this disrespectful behavior, and calling damn near anyone and everyone toxic for explaining the rules to you.
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Re: Ban system

Post by Darktifa » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:27 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:38 pm
Swzn wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:10 pm
I am NOT that racist guy, you should read it again.
So what, the GMs are lying?
OP Slyze and Swzn are a different person!
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