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Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 3:45 pm
by Iamtmr
Is this something thats being worked on? Would be nice to play Shaman, but we all on alliance side.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 3:48 pm
by Reptilewow
And why don't you wanna make a horde character? There's quite a lot of cross faction functionality on twow

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 3:52 pm
by Iamtmr
Mainly to be on the same quest lines, hand-ins and not be bound to horde specific quests

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 4:03 pm
by Bigsmerf
I really hope they keep the shaman/pally identity faction seperate. It'd ruin the identity of the cultural difference between the factions. The only big reasons people are going to want pallies and shammies for both factions is one whining about not getting to play the other because it's SOOOO painful and annoying to have to be the other faction. That and horde hates pallies in pvp.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 4:22 pm
by Iamtmr
Bigsmerf wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 4:03 pm
I really hope they keep the shaman/pally identity faction seperate. It'd ruin the identity of the cultural difference between the factions. The only big reasons people are going to want pallies and shammies for both factions is one whining about not getting to play the other because it's SOOOO painful and annoying to have to be the other faction. That and horde hates pallies in pvp.
Hm i thought they made server changes to makes things available on Alliance that are only on Horde and vice versa, but didn't find the Shaman on Alliance side. Made me really sad..

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 6:21 pm
by Bigsmerf
Iamtmr wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 4:22 pm
Bigsmerf wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 4:03 pm
I really hope they keep the shaman/pally identity faction seperate. It'd ruin the identity of the cultural difference between the factions. The only big reasons people are going to want pallies and shammies for both factions is one whining about not getting to play the other because it's SOOOO painful and annoying to have to be the other faction. That and horde hates pallies in pvp.
Hm i thought they made server changes to makes things available on Alliance that are only on Horde and vice versa, but didn't find the Shaman on Alliance side. Made me really sad..
They added cross faction interaction. I don't know where you got the idea that means horde and alli specific classes were removed.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 6:44 pm
by Redmagejoe
@Title: Never.

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Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 6:54 pm
by Jammyxx
Hopefully never, lets not turn this into TBC.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 8:15 pm
by Boras
everything is crossfaction. it doesn't matter. just roll horde if you want to play as shaman

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 4:44 pm
by Kobiq
Please stop even thinking about this. I'd love to see another faction specific class, to bolster the lore diffrences and immersion even more.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 5:07 am
by Drubarrymooer
So as a lifelong horde player, I'm leveling a paladin. I have to read the quests and even if I didn't and knew them all by heart, there are still a ton of new questing hubs. If you're looking for the same old vanilla grind, twow probably isn't the best place to be. Try giving horde a chance. Mulgore is a beautiful zone with great music and lots of simple quests. Give it a shot. You might love it.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 10:39 am
by Illyria
Iamtmr wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 3:45 pm
Is this something thats being worked on? Would be nice to play Shaman, but we all on alliance side.
NOOOOO!!!! Never never never

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 11:02 am
by Heine
Kobiq wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:44 pm
Please stop even thinking about this. I'd love to see another faction specific class, to bolster the lore diffrences and immersion even more.
Look at this boy speaking about immersion with these crossraids, illusions and happy cloud mounts around.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 12:26 pm
by Zulnam
Heine wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:02 am
Kobiq wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:44 pm
Please stop even thinking about this. I'd love to see another faction specific class, to bolster the lore diffrences and immersion even more.
Look at this boy speaking about immersion with these crossraids, illusions and happy cloud mounts around.
Fair point, but precisely because of those crossraids you don't need Shamans on Alliance or vice-versa.

BGs are the only place where faction immersion can still be a thing, happy cloud mounts be damned. Unlocking faction-locked classes would take that away.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:56 pm
by Geojak
horde paladin, allaicne shaman would help ALOT in making each seaide understand the other better and make pvp discussion less toxic and more objective.

besides dwarf shaman, undead paladin alrent that lore outrageous and could be easiy made to fit the game

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 3:00 pm
by Bigsmerf
Geojak wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 2:56 pm
horde paladin, allaicne shaman would help ALOT in making each seaide understand the other better and make pvp discussion less toxic and more objective.

besides dwarf shaman, undead paladin alrent that lore outrageous and could be easiy made to fit the game
I could surely see this happening, but in terms of keeping turtle relatively vanilla, I'd rather keep things the way they are. And toxicity isn't exactly the fault of game design, but that of the quick tempered or smooth brained people who can't adapt to it, or just be civil.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:48 pm
by Kobiq
Heine wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:02 am
Kobiq wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:44 pm
Please stop even thinking about this. I'd love to see another faction specific class, to bolster the lore diffrences and immersion even more.
Look at this boy speaking about immersion with these crossraids, illusions and happy cloud mounts around.
Of course crossfaction is something that no longer makes a point with stable 4k population, "boy".

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:18 am
by Trymv1
Geojak wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 2:56 pm
besides dwarf shaman, undead paladin alrent that lore outrageous and could be easiy made to fit the game
Dwarf shammy is fine, dunno how everyone is suddenly like 'UNDEAD PALADIN IS FINE IN LORE' tho.

I blame Epoch.

Tauren and Troll Paladins via Sun and a Life-Loa worship made more sense in lore when you read into it (hell, Sunwalkers are technically DRUIDS and the Zandalari are just anti-death), people just irrationally hate the cows and refuse to look at 'classes' as anything but the specific branding I guess.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:20 pm
by Karrados
Undead Paladins have been a thing since before Epoch.

The whole "Forsaken are only Shadow Priests" in lore is wrong too as one of the Vanilla quests even tells you that there is more to Priesthood than melting faces.
Our power comes from darkness and shadow, <name>, but that is not your only role. You have acknowledged that there is merit in knowing the healing arts. This is wise. But before you can know the dark, you must also know the light. And for this, I have a test for you.
Couple that with there being Sir Zeliek and you have the potential for Undead Paladins. I am not saying they SHOULD go with it, I am just saying that there is a case to be made.

The Light hurts the undead who use it because it makes them feel alive including maggots eating their rotten bodies and such afaik, this does not mean they can't make use of it.

Between Undead and Tauren I would probably pick Tauren though.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:18 pm
by Elisleris
There are some quests, that allow you to rise reputation with oposite factions.
Like The Super Egg-O-Matic and follow up.
Or finding Elders during Lunar festival.
May be there are some additional quests...
If you really want to play as Shaman on Alliance side, you can try to up reputation with Alliance factions from Hated to Neutral
Proof

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:16 pm
by Xeapor
never change it please

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:15 am
by Jolikmc
Elisleris wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:18 pm
There are some quests, that allow you to rise reputation with oposite factions.
Like The Super Egg-O-Matic and follow up.
Or finding Elders during Lunar festival.
May be there are some additional quests...
If you really want to play as Shaman on Alliance side, you can try to up reputation with Alliance factions from Hated to Neutral
Proof
Typically speaking, under MaNGOS emulation, raising one's reputation with the opposing faction will not allow you to do their quests, interact with their NPCs, or anything like that. The most it will let you do is stroll through their territory unharmed.

Now, I'm not sure if this applies to Turtle WoW specifically as there have been a lot of modifications done to the software. For all I know, becoming Neutral with Thunder Bluff, for example, actually might let a Human do quests for Thunder Bluff NPCs. This would not apply to other sub-factions, however, such as Orgrimmar, the "Horde Forces" sub-faction some NPCs use, and of course, the PvP sub-factions. So, this same Human might wander into Thunder Bluff and get destroyed by, say, a Defiler's Den NPC, if they headed to that bluff.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:21 pm
by Remmo87
NEVAH!

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:14 pm
by Charanko
Please never ty :)

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:58 pm
by Shaman111
Heine wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 11:02 am
Kobiq wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:44 pm
Please stop even thinking about this. I'd love to see another faction specific class, to bolster the lore diffrences and immersion even more.
Look at this boy speaking about immersion with these crossraids, illusions and happy cloud mounts around.
crossraids isnt even that immersion breaking. player characters are adventurers, not soldiers enlisted in their faction armies. there are so many places in game where horde and alliance races interact together without hostility

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:58 pm
by Jammyxx

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:44 am
by Sinrek
Iamtmr wrote:
Thu May 11, 2023 3:45 pm
Is this something thats being worked on? Would be nice to play Shaman, but we all on alliance side.
Why would there be any work on this one? They never planned for it. Don't you follow their news and highlights for the upcoming content?

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:47 am
by Dracarusggotham
Never, Alliance have Paladins and Horde have Shamans.
Don't break that point, every faction needs her own class for make it special in some way.

If you want a Shaman create a Horde character.
Adding Shamans to the Alliance means the devs need to add the Paladins to the Horde, and you know what that means, right?

Two words: Blood Elfs.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:01 am
by Karrados
There won't be any afaik, They already mentioned that they want to keep the Factions seperated and that includes Shamans and Paladins so don't count on it.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:13 am
by Mac
Never, which is to say sometime after they split the server.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:26 am
by Tutayanova
Tauren paladin when?

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 am
by Charanko
Tutayanova wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:26 am
Tauren paladin when?
Youre gonna have to log in on battle.net for that one bro 🤣

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:11 am
by Foobs
Yes Dwarf shaman for the win!!

I for one would encourage our twow overlords to do this soon!!

insidious_turtle

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:09 am
by Tutayanova
Charanko wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:49 am
Tutayanova wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:26 am
Tauren paladin when?
Youre gonna have to log in on battle.net for that one bro 🤣
No thx, i got enough with Tauren rogue.

Re: Shaman on Alliance side, when?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:39 pm
by Healthyboundary
I would rather they add a rep system to turncoat on your faction and join the other one with your current character. Then it would be even more fun to have new faction specific classes.