Allow Weapon Procs In Forms.

[Jammyxx]

Please can this be considered.

I think this was added in Wotlk which made druids alot more viable, due to being able to proc stuff like crusader and any random weapon you'd get with a proc.

It would also enable feral cats to do more competitive DPS in raids with the WF totem working.

[Kairion]

Sensible request, but only if proc frequency is scaled to the new attackspeed. There are a few degenerate weapons, basically same as with paladin & jotc

But if it can be implemented properly
+1

[Chaka]

+2

[Andromath]

+3

[Onega11]

+4

[Bearcake103]

Interesting suggestion, but not that easy if you ask me.

Pro:

• A phase of discovery. There are many weapons that may be quite powerful and will need a testing. Will The Hand of Antu'sul become a valid weapon for tanks? Is Fist of Stone a nice option for cat to replenish mana fast? What about Earthshaker in PvP?
• +5 Weapondamage (one-handed) and +9 Weapondamage (two-handed) enchantment become a very powerful choice for dps/threat. Maybe even BiS enchantment?

Contra:

• Homogenization of classes. Feral using claws and weapons being stat sticks is a distinct feature of the class fantasy, allowing the on hit effects to work may conteract that fantasy a bit too much - depending on who you ask.
• Balance issues that pop up after implementation, because there may be surprisingly strong on hit effects in the game.

One thing though - the high end lvl 60 feral weapons provide three-digit Attack Power in bear/cat forms - would there be a weapon on hit effect that surpasses that regarding dps? Do the "+" folks have a specific weapon on hit effect in mind, that they would like to use as bear or cat?

[Roadie]

+5

[Ibux]

what about weapon oils like shadow oil and enchants like fiery, crusader, unholy etc.

[Gantulga]

Feral is already very good here and homogenization isn't what vanilla is about.

[Chaka]

Like the OP suggested, allowing Weapon enchants to Proc in form helps druid be viable while maintaining Turtle principles. Crusader is a huge buff for Warrior/Rouge and excluded/forgotten for feral.

[Gantulga]

Like the OP suggested, allowing Weapon enchants to Proc in form helps druid be viable while maintaining Turtle principles. Crusader is a huge buff for Warrior/Rouge and excluded/forgotten for feral.

Feral would get 240 AP from crusader. That alone would require some rebalancing of their abilities. Is it worth the hassle?

[Chaka]

No different than warriors gaining 200ap from it.

[Gantulga]

No different than warriors gaining 200ap from it.

How about crusader gets normalized to 200 melee AP instead of STR so all melees benefit from it equally? Rogue gets the short end of the stick with this enchant.
Also, feral DPS is too tied to OoC procs. You may get lucky and become top DPS by mashing shred without second thought even if you're undergeared, or you may get unlucky and sit near the bottom. That's very poor design.

[Chaka]

Crusader and other enchants are fine and shouldn't be altered (proc rate depends on weapon/attack speed). Allowing weapon procs in form was added in Wotlk and is just a reasonable request like OP suggested.

[Massie2]

Everyone gangster until the PvP druid procs his Hand of Edward the Odd and casts 2x instants full Healing Touch's with Nature's Swiftness.

[Gantulga]

Everyone gangster until the PvP druid procs his Hand of Edward the Odd and casts 2x instants full Healing Touch's with Nature's Swiftness.

I'm afraid. This is valid though. Druids are already insane in PvP here.

[Bearcake103]

So is it just about Crusader enchant? Or are there any weapons that would be a new valid choice?

[Karrados]

Yeah I don't think PVP balance is of any concern to the Team when we take a look at Paladins so why not just throw in one more class that is insane.

[Shamma]

Can druids pls retain some downsides as hybrids? Ppl asking for normal rez and now wep procs in forms?! Get outta here.

[Ibux]

Can druids pls retain some downsides as hybrids? Ppl asking for normal rez and now wep procs in forms?! Get outta here.

meh. warrior is a hybrid too. it can tank and dps extremely well with the same build.

[Shamma]

Can druids pls retain some downsides as hybrids? Ppl asking for normal rez and now wep procs in forms?! Get outta here.

meh. warrior is a hybrid too. it can tank and dps extremely well with the same build.

As I have said 100 times before - NERF warriors. Do not buff other classes. Keep them different with weaknesses.

[Ibux]

As I have said 100 times before - NERF warriors. Do not buff other classes. Keep them different with weaknesses.

i guess we can all live with that

I suggest:
1. Nerf warrior's dual wield specialization. brings dual wield warrior closer to two handed melee dps. without making warrior leveling any slower. since they can level fine with two handed weapons, both as fury and arms.
2. Limit all epic plate armor to defensive stats only. and change any epic plate armor with offensive stats to mail armor. this would have the added bonus of giving more gear for shaman / melee hunter while reducing dps warrior tankiness.
3. Make windfury totem a buff that works for two handed weapons only. this could include ranged weapons. this hits dual wield warrior's, but good for hunters, and two handed melee. and also melee some times need to stand in ranged position like on ragnaros. it also affect one handed tank warrior. so give the lost threat back with a boost to shield slam / one-handed weapon specialization.

[Gantulga]

As I have said 100 times before - NERF warriors. Do not buff other classes. Keep them different with weaknesses.

3. Make windfury totem a buff that works for two handed weapons only. this could include ranged weapons. this hits dual wield warrior's, but good for hunters, and two handed melee. and also melee some times need to stand in ranged position like on ragnaros. it also affect one handed tank warrior. so give the lost threat back with a boost to shield slam / one-handed weapon specialization.

Rogues exist and they certainly do not need any kind of nerf, the opposite actually.

[Ibux]

Rogues exist and they certainly do not need any kind of nerf, the opposite actually.

can't say i'm a expert on rogues. can't twow just tweak poisons a bit to balance for this loss? guess we could find other ways. but i think maybe changing a group buff is a nice way to re balance raid dps. since it affects the solo potential less.