The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

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The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

Post by Alexmmusic » Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:03 am

I think the activation of this talent might not be working properly, as it only seems to trigger when delivering the final blow to an enemy—making it a rather unversatile talent, and especially useless for healing priests.

Maybe it should activate whenever you're involved in a fight with a mob—even if you're just healing a group?

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Re: The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

Post by Fornow » Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:23 am

Yeah unfortunately it's only really useful when solo or duel leveling. In a dungeon group you can try to snipe kills with mindblast and that new instant cast finisher.

However if it were always activated no matter who gets the kill in the group it would be both too strong with its current values and more bland as you don't need to do anything specific anymore.

I think a fair change would be to change the killing blow formula a bit so that you still get a partial effect depending on how much you contributed to the kill (the last 10-15% of life maybe).

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Re: The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

Post by Alexmmusic » Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:03 am

Fornow wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:23 am I think a fair change would be to change the killing blow formula a bit so that you still get a partial effect depending on how much you contributed to the kill (the last 10-15% of life maybe).
There's no need to do so much math. You can simply reduce the probability values (100% in the talent's maximum range) so that, out of all the deaths that may occur in a pull, only one mob gives you the talent upon dying. The talent doesn't regenerate that much mana either, so I don't think it would be too broken if it activated several times in a pull.

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Re: The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

Post by Fornow » Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:07 am

From my experience as a shadow priest in dungeons the talent is actually very strong if you go fishing for last hits. Mana is holding spriest back the most it's quite competitive damage wise. But it depends on group composition too. With an affliction lock that dots everything it's easy to get last hits but against warriors spamming execute it's a tough ask. Bonus points if you have a full spirit set hotkeyed.
Alexmmusic wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:03 am [ou can simply reduce the probability values (100% in the talent's maximum range) so that, out of all the deaths that may occur in a pull, only one mob gives you the talent upon dying.
No sure I fully understand you here but adjusting the probability value down in exchange for the effect triggering on any group kill would drastically nerf it's potential for leveling and solo farming where it currently shines.

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Re: The talent Spiritual Drain could work better

Post by Atreidon » Mon Jul 07, 2025 5:46 am

Or just time your mindblast. The talent gives you about as much mana as half a manapot. The talent is strong enough where it warrants some effort on the priests part.

Also dps could just leave a mob up for you so you can fight more without healer manabreaks, but after 20 years of wow people havent figured that one out ^^

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