Megathread of hardcore tips and FAQ
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 4:59 pm
This post is made in the effort of helping other hardcore players reach their goals, whatever those may be. It will be a more expanded aggregate of the list of useful addons, tips, tricks and frequently asked questions that you may have seen from my main, Allurien, with some additional details that can't fit into ingame macros.
Addon guide
Turtle addon list: https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
https://github.com/nakda/codex expands the mouseover of a mob to include the list of abilities it uses. See a new mob and don't know if it's going to whoop your ass? Check this first.
https://github.com/RetroCro/unitscan-turtle/ scans for dangerous mobs and gives you a warning when roving dangerous mobs are close by.
https://github.com/GryllsAddons/HCQuest warns you of exceptionally dangerous quests, such as quests that flag you for PVP.
https://github.com/Lexiebean/TurtleHCFilter lets you filter out/leave Hardcore chat so that HC chat doesn't invade all of your chat tabs. Without the addon, unchecking Hardcore chat does nothing.
https://github.com/Pizzahawaiii/PizzaWorldBuffs World buff reminder
https://github.com/Lexiebean/AtlasLoot/ Atlas Loot that includes Turtle-wow specific items and changes.
http://shagu.org/pfQuest/ The best questing addon for Turtle.
https://github.com/doorknob6/pfUI-turtle PfUI is essentially the Turtle version of ElvUI.
https://github.com/balakethelock/TWThreat NECESSARY.
https://medal.tv/download, while it's not an addon, I seriously recommend downloading Medal to clip shenanigans. If someone griefs you, the clips will help for your report.
Guilds
Inferno
<Hard Chores>, English, Raid Schedule Fri/Sat/Sun 3PM EST/8PM BST
<FD>, Chinese, Raid Schedule unknown
<Teu Cu> Portuguese/Brazilian, still forming its raid team
Standard
<TURTLE HARDCORE> English
<Still Deprived> English
<The Ravenwatch> English, Roleplay
<TABEPHA> Russian
<Going to Death> Russian
<CN> Chinese
Reputation worth getting
Alliance
Ironforge honored, lvl 30 leather set
Darnassus honored, lvl 30 mail set
Horde
Neutral
40+ Gelkis Clan Centaur https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60902]rewards
40+ Magram Clan Centaur https://database.turtle-wow.org/?npc=80942]rewards
High level, 50+
The Argent Dawn provides useful consumables and a few other valuable items (Friendly). You grind this by questing and killing undead in the Plaguelands.
Timbermaw Hold provides a shortcut from Felwood into Winterspring (Unfriendly) and is relevant to a number of professions. You grind this through killing Furbolgs and questing.
Dungeons
Normal players tend to do dungeons at or just below the level requirement of most of the bosses. As Hardcores, we tend to do dungeons based on the last boss. For instance, where non-Hardcores run RFC as soon as possible at lvl 14, we do it around lvl 16+, because that's the level of the last boss.
You can find guides to the dungeons here (including the custom ones):
viewtopic.php?t=4932
https://hardchores.fandom.com/wiki/Surv ... (Dungeons)
Tips & Tricks
Frequently Asked Questions - FAQ
Is fall damage capped?
Addon guide
Turtle addon list: https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
https://github.com/nakda/codex expands the mouseover of a mob to include the list of abilities it uses. See a new mob and don't know if it's going to whoop your ass? Check this first.
https://github.com/RetroCro/unitscan-turtle/ scans for dangerous mobs and gives you a warning when roving dangerous mobs are close by.
https://github.com/GryllsAddons/HCQuest warns you of exceptionally dangerous quests, such as quests that flag you for PVP.
https://github.com/Lexiebean/TurtleHCFilter lets you filter out/leave Hardcore chat so that HC chat doesn't invade all of your chat tabs. Without the addon, unchecking Hardcore chat does nothing.
https://github.com/Pizzahawaiii/PizzaWorldBuffs World buff reminder
https://github.com/Lexiebean/AtlasLoot/ Atlas Loot that includes Turtle-wow specific items and changes.
http://shagu.org/pfQuest/ The best questing addon for Turtle.
https://github.com/doorknob6/pfUI-turtle PfUI is essentially the Turtle version of ElvUI.
https://github.com/balakethelock/TWThreat NECESSARY.
https://medal.tv/download, while it's not an addon, I seriously recommend downloading Medal to clip shenanigans. If someone griefs you, the clips will help for your report.
Guilds
Inferno
<Hard Chores>, English, Raid Schedule Fri/Sat/Sun 3PM EST/8PM BST
<FD>, Chinese, Raid Schedule unknown
<Teu Cu> Portuguese/Brazilian, still forming its raid team
Standard
<TURTLE HARDCORE> English
<Still Deprived> English
<The Ravenwatch> English, Roleplay
<TABEPHA> Russian
<Going to Death> Russian
<CN> Chinese
Reputation worth getting
Alliance
Ironforge honored, lvl 30 leather set
Darnassus honored, lvl 30 mail set
Horde
Neutral
40+ Gelkis Clan Centaur https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=60902]rewards
40+ Magram Clan Centaur https://database.turtle-wow.org/?npc=80942]rewards
High level, 50+
The Argent Dawn provides useful consumables and a few other valuable items (Friendly). You grind this by questing and killing undead in the Plaguelands.
Timbermaw Hold provides a shortcut from Felwood into Winterspring (Unfriendly) and is relevant to a number of professions. You grind this through killing Furbolgs and questing.
Dungeons
Normal players tend to do dungeons at or just below the level requirement of most of the bosses. As Hardcores, we tend to do dungeons based on the last boss. For instance, where non-Hardcores run RFC as soon as possible at lvl 14, we do it around lvl 16+, because that's the level of the last boss.
You can find guides to the dungeons here (including the custom ones):
viewtopic.php?t=4932
https://hardchores.fandom.com/wiki/Surv ... (Dungeons)
Dungeon Name | Recommended level range |
Ragefire Chasm (RFC) | 16+ |
Wailing Caverns (WC) | 20+ |
Deadmines (DM/VC) | 20-25 |
Blackfathom Depths (BFD) | 26-31 |
Shadowfang Keep (SFK) | 25-30 |
Stockades (Stocks) | 27+ |
Razorfen Kraul (RFK) | 30-35 |
Gnomeregan (Gnomer) | 33-38 |
Crescent Grove (CG) | 35-40 |
Scarlet Graveyard (SGY) | 31-36 |
Scarlet Library (Lib) | 35-38 |
Scarlet Armory (Arm) | 40-45 |
Scarlet Cathedral (Cath) | 40-45 |
Razorfen Downs (RFD) | 40-45 |
Uldaman (Uld) | 46-50 |
Zul'Farrak (ZF) | 46-53 |
Gilneas City (GC) | 48-53 |
Tips & Tricks
- Turn on Hardcore Deaths announcements with the ".hcm 10" command and learn from other peoples losses.
- The childrens week quests award you with 5g.
- You can find the travel guide viewtopic.php?p=88046&hilit=flying#p88046]here.
- Turtle WoW specific thing guide here viewtopic.php?t=912]here.
- Avoid doing anything dangerous around 00:00 server time. Server same seems to occur at this hour and there will be a HUGE lagspike at this time.
- Learn about Thrash (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tngyV1 ... hannel=Big) and other dangerous mechanics.
- NEVER AFK INGAME. Going afk for a bit? Get to a safe spot and log out. Especially do not log out at the Hyjal FP: lvl 60 ghosts spawn there.
- Send a whisper to the character 'Tents' ingame with 'dmf' for info on where dmf is located.
- Bookmark this link if you want access to timers while out of game https://turtle-timer.vercel.app/
- Bookmark this link for access to the Turtle database https://database.turtle-wow.org/.
- Bookmark this, it's the server wiki: https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Turtle_WoW_Wiki.
- Lvl 55+ get this consumable https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=13506
- (Inferno) Get this reusable consumable that is on the same cooldown as rune/healthstone but not potions: https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=15723
Frequently Asked Questions - FAQ
Is fall damage capped?
Can I drown?Yes, but fall damage is capped to 10% of your max HP. If you're below 10% and decide to go skydiving, you may die.
Do we have fatigue?Yes, you can down. Hardcores do not take less damage from drowning.
How do I get to Tirisfal as Alliance?Nope! Swim to your hearts content (but be mindful of sea monsters).
How do I get to Swamp of Sorrows as Alliance?The easiest way is to go to Auberdine/Darkshore, take the boat to Alah'thalas. If you're coming off the boat from Stormwind, the Alah'thalas boat is to your left, or at the end of the dock if you're facing all the boats from inside the inn. You'll want to jump off the boat and swim down the coast to Tirisfal. There's nothing too dangerous in the water.
Are boats actually dangerous?Go through Deadwind Pass from Duskwood or take the Redridge pathway outlined in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFxjBhMg-Hk.
How do I get a starter mount? Where are people getting the turtles?More or less. If you tab in and out a lot or mouse over to a secondary monitor, you might fall in the water rather than enjoy the full boat ride. If there are nasties in the water then sure it can be dangerous but mostly it's a short swim to the shore.
Why are there graves in Stormwind?From the Darkmoon Faire (DMF) starting from lvl 18! Because of the dangers of this quest for Horde, 20+ is recommended. DMF rotates weekly and is not available on Wednesdays. It swaps between Elwynn and Mulgore on Saturday night. You can track where DMF is located with this website https://turtle-timer.vercel.app/.
How do I make gold?PVPers routinely go through the city and kill people. The Keep is also cursed. I repeat: THE KEEP IS CURSED. Avoid it at all costs unless absolutely necessary. It's relevant to several endgame quests and high level elites may spawn there and steamroll you.
Why do people keep laughing at peoples BOE prices?There are a bunch of different ways to do this. Sell greens to players or NPCs. Train professions. Alchemy is popular for staying alive; people love buying healing/mana potions as well as invisibility pots, swiftness pots or buff pots. Skinning is self-contained and self-sustainable with no startup cost or additional chores. Enchanting provides great perks but it's very expensive - if you level it in tandem with Tailoring it may be more bearable + also provide bags that you can sell.
Who is Wandpusher?The Hardcore economy is incredibly illiquid. We're all broke trading the same 20$ around. No one is going to pay 2g for the lvl 15 green.
Can I accidentally flag for PVP? What provisions has the server taken to avoid it (if at all)?A god among men advocating for the use of wands. Accept the wand. Wandpusher goods are the Gucci of Hardcore.
Can I group cross faction? What is this warning I get when I do?It's very difficult to accidentally flag for PVP from other players. Them standing in your AOE does not flag you and you cannot actually right click them: flagging must be performed deliberately, through an NPC or quest. Buffing players is not possible and rezzing players does NOT flag you.
You CAN get flagged from clicking the wrong flightmaster or NPC. Rexxar's long walks through Desolace may be terrifying but he is not aggressive. If a guard happens to jump you, DO NOT ATTACK BACK. If you have a thorns effect active such as ret aura, the damage it deals back to the guard will not flag you. I am not sure how this behaves regarding pets however.
If you're worried about PVP quests, download the HCQuest addon and heed warnings well.
Can I multibox on Hardcore?You can group and play cross faction. The warning is a server rule against griefing. It's there mostly for normal players who may attempt to grief people. If Jimmy and Bob have a problem and Jimmy invites Bob to a group and lures him out into the wild in the hopes of jumping him in the premise of doing a dungeon together, Bob can report Jimmy and get him punished for griefing.
Can I get in trouble for accepting help from people outside of my 5 level range?You can multibox ONLY in main cities. If your main is a lvl 55, your alt on another account is 50 and your friend is 45, you're welcome to use your own alt accounts as middlemen for trades, or as a sort of bank. Yes, I know this isn't clear in the rules, but we've asked GMs multiple times about this and all of them have verified it.
What do I do if I get griefed?Situational. You can ask people for buffs and if some random player decides to help you kill an elite/rare/quest NPC/whatever you'll be fine. These are organic player interactions which the server wants to promote.
You CANNOT, however, ask to get carried through quests and have higher level players carry you through things. If someone is persistently following you around to do everything for you, ask them politely to leave.
Do standard vanilla or classic builds work here?GMs cannot help you if you're killed, but if someone is following you around and harassing you or trying to frame you for multiboxing or getting carried, you can report them. I recommend downloading Medal and set it up to clip based on a hotkey. GMs respond to tickets in under a minute on average.
No. Turtle has done a number of updates and changes to different abilities. Check the official Turtle discord or the class forum for builds.