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2023 — December 18

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:02 am
by Torta
  • Void-Linked Satchel is now Bind on Pickup.
  • Made Snowball mount Bind on Pickup.
  • Lowered Snowball's respawn timer to 5-6 hours.
  • Fixed issues with Moroes not being able to shift through his phases.
  • Added item level and disenchanting to Evermoon Staff.
  • Fixed the wrong hand for Blackflame Wand.
  • Fixed the wrong sheathing for Nature's Gift.
  • Removed Cenarion Circle reputation reward from Race Against Time! quest.
  • Fixed a sheath-display issue with the item Nature's Gift.
  • Blackflame wand will now properly display as a Wand.
  • Corrected the iLevel and disenchant loot for Evermoon Staff.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:34 am
by Xanwow
Torta wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:02 am
  • Made Snowball mount Bind on Pickup.
  • Lowered Snowball's respawn timer to 5-6 hours.
Unfortunately a single group will continue to farm this for the BoP mount and other BoE epics.

They are getting the tag *suspiciously* fast, and if they dont get the tag they force the 20k damage raid wipe mechanic.

I appreciate the effort required to develop an event like this, but it seems like 99.9% of players will not have any opportunity to complete this quest. The campers will grief the newbie players and rake in the rewards unhappy_turtle_head

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:40 am
by Dkp
Just make it instanced, a group is always killing him or griefing other players, that's the spirit of twow?

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
by Ugoboom
Yes, the spirit of old wow isn't to instance everything fun

Tag better than them.

Welcome to old school world bosses

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:15 am
by Xanwow
Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
Tag better than them.
I would agree if things like autoclickers didnt exist and the boss didnt have a "wipe everyone" mechanic if they lost the tag.

Appealing to the flaws of old wow is goofy when we are on a server that intentionally addresses many of those flaws.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:18 am
by Dkp
Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
Yes, the spirit of old wow isn't to instance everything fun

Tag better than them.

Welcome to old school world bosses
So the spirit of old wow is cheating an seasonal event to tag a boss for selling mounts or griefing competitors? Yup, sound legit.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:26 am
by Fizzler
Xanwow wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:34 am
Torta wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:02 am
  • Made Snowball mount Bind on Pickup.
  • Lowered Snowball's respawn timer to 5-6 hours.
Unfortunately a single group will continue to farm this for the BoP mount and other BoE epics.

They are getting the tag *suspiciously* fast, and if they dont get the tag they force the 20k damage raid wipe mechanic.

I appreciate the effort required to develop an event like this, but it seems like 99.9% of players will not have any opportunity to complete this quest. The campers will grief the newbie players and rake in the rewards unhappy_turtle_head
They should've moved the quest away from a world boss kill. It isn't helpful to gatekeep a 20 slot bag from much of the playerbase when it just encourages people to buy 36 slot bags instead of playing the game.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:28 am
by Norseric
Made Snowball mount Bind on Pickup.
Lowered Snowball's respawn timer to 5-6 hours.

Hahaha these changes are crapo. I thought the objective was to fix the current issues with Snowball being constantly farmed by one group.

Failed Dev changes 101

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:37 am
by Tinyaho
Please fix the bug of unlimited reset raid.
Too many rogue and hunter got illegal Arcane Crystal through unlimited reset zug.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:03 am
by Shootrlootr
Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
Yes, the spirit of old wow isn't to instance everything fun

Tag better than them.

Welcome to old school world bosses
The spirit of old school WoW also isn't to have 200+ people camping it all of the time. How many people in 2004-2006 were camping world bosses on a server with a population cap of 3000? I guarantee you its a whole lot less than the people sitting in Snowball's cave right now.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:21 am
by Norseric
Ranting aint gonna fix shit. They 'fixed' this issue by not fixing a damn thing. They are just like the US government haha!

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:08 am
by Atreidon
There is a reason no game does worldbosses anymore.

The tag mechanic in classic means you get massively rewarded for sitting on the respawn timer, build a group beforehand and placing huntertraps on the spawnpoint (which the group that last killed him has a better chance od remembering accurately)

The boss also being filled with valuable SELLABLE loot means there is incentive to farm and camp it, even if you can not use any of his bop drops.

Raidbosses should be summonsble for a matprize that is worthy of the raidsize expected to take them down and then be tagged for the group that summons them (see silithus lords)

Because the process of tagging them and forming a group on time is so tedious, the vast majority of people just simply ignore worldbosses alltogether. Some may remember when ostarious could be summoned whenever people wanted to do him.

It shouldnt have been free to do so, but thw prospect of going to do a raidboss in the open world with your guild when your guildies actually have time was awsome. Now it got a cd and its camped by 1-2 groups

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:11 am
by Astrator
This Snowball fix is just a joke and show how the dev team view us... From now on, my time and money are going to be spent on a private server that respect their users...

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:22 am
by Luqj
GM, my 32 level Druid was killed by Snowball wolf boss, I didn’t go into its burrow just finish the moonking quest outside, is it a bug? I need help please, my character name: Forrestmoon.

Sorry I don’t know how to write a ticket.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:49 am
by Polywow4444
Its a world boss and instancing it goes against that idea
The GMs have been constantly respawning it faster than the timer
Want to cry constantly about a raid group tagging faster? Have you tried forming a group of your own?
Have you tried tagging faster?
Have you considered that the devs can't stop people from tagging a world boss?
You can't piss your pants for the mods every time you spill your juice, get good

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:28 pm
by Twinking
Dkp wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:40 am
Just make it instanced, a group is always killing him or griefing other players, that's the spirit of twow?
Yes it is scared_turtle_head

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:39 pm
by Dkp
Polywow4444 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:49 am
Its a world boss and instancing it goes against that idea
The GMs have been constantly respawning it faster than the timer
Want to cry constantly about a raid group tagging faster? Have you tried forming a group of your own?
Have you tried tagging faster?
Have you considered that the devs can't stop people from tagging a world boss?
You can't piss your pants for the mods every time you spill your juice, get good
There were more than 300 people in the cave yesterday, coincidentally they always tagged it first. The 2 times they didn't do it, they tapped the boss.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:21 pm
by Bahamutxd
Polywow4444 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:49 am
Its a world boss and instancing it goes against that idea
The GMs have been constantly respawning it faster than the timer
Want to cry constantly about a raid group tagging faster? Have you tried forming a group of your own?
Have you tried tagging faster?
Have you considered that the devs can't stop people from tagging a world boss?
You can't piss your pants for the mods every time you spill your juice, get good
How does that help if a group is griefing others when they don't tag it?

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:44 pm
by Nerat
Polywow4444 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:49 am
Its a world boss and instancing it goes against that idea
Make it an instance boss then. Problem solved.
Polywow4444 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:49 am
Have you tried tagging faster?
Tagged it faster than them twice. Both times they griefed our attempt at killing it. GMs replied with "we can't ban players for casting a spell", which is a weird way of phrasing it, since that would also apply to anyone boosting a Hardcore character, yet that is (supposedly) a bannable offense.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:05 pm
by Nallkun
Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
Yes, the spirit of old wow isn't to instance everything fun

Tag better than them.

Welcome to old school world bosses
Sounds like we found the problem children - give em a nice 2 week ban so they can "get better" personality.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:32 am
by Mauz4444
Greetings.this modification is pointless, this damn quest has been bothering me for days, I can't complete the quest, I just want to complete the quest, I don't care about the boss falling, even if he drops a yacht, I'm not interested, I just want to complete the quest, please .

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:34 am
by Mauz4444
I hate this mission, I hate the inventor of this mission, and I want to kick his ass until the end of the world.

Re: 2023 — December 18 [hotfix]

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:56 am
by Mac
Dkp wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:18 am
Ugoboom wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am
Yes, the spirit of old wow isn't to instance everything fun

Tag better than them.

Welcome to old school world bosses
So the spirit of old wow is cheating an seasonal event to tag a boss for selling mounts or griefing competitors? Yup, sound legit.
Kind of. It’s more of the older MMO spirit with Wow being the one to get the ball rolling on the trend of instancing content but there’s still a lot of it in vanilla Wow.