Windfury for Feral when?

[Justaddwater]

As the title suggest. when?

[Glipo]

never?

[Bigsmerf]

Honestly, even as a feral main myself, I'm sort of indifferent to the idea. Sure, from a gameplay perspective, adding windfury would be pretty great. Big damage boost and whatnot. But the enchantment IS called windfury WEAPON for a reason. Doesn't make sense to imbue a cat or bear's claws with wind, imo, since they're not enchantable weapons.

[Mundane]

Honestly, even as a feral main myself, I'm sort of indifferent to the idea. Sure, from a gameplay perspective, adding windfury would be pretty great. Big damage boost and whatnot. But the enchantment IS called windfury WEAPON for a reason. Doesn't make sense to imbue a cat or bear's claws with wind, imo, since they're not enchantable weapons.

What are you on about? My paws are deadly weapons.

[Twinking]

Barkskin (Feral) when???

[Xudo]

What about 2% haste air totem? It will be useful for caster party, for tanking party, for druids. It will allow flametongue totem or sharpening stones and poisons on main hand.

[Gantulga]

Barkskin (Feral) when???

Druid is already very broken in PvP.

[Twinking]

Barkskin (Feral) when???

Druid is already very broken in PvP.

How much do you play pvp?
This change is necessary primarily for tank druids.

[Gantulga]

It's not "necessary" and you can still pop it in between swings on many bosses.

[Grizb37]

Been playing sod with the windfury on feral and it's no where near op tbh. Quite lacklustre if anything. So I don't see the problem with giving feral it here.

[Turboman]

It's not "necessary" and you can still pop it in between swings on many bosses.

Pvp is of no importance, as for popping it in between the swings, leaving the bear form makes you lose all your rage not to mention you become super vulnerable for a moment (no armor) plus its time spent given the certain properties of this server when it cones to shape shifting.

[Twinking]

It's not "necessary" and you can still pop it in between swings on many bosses.

I think you don’t understand the issue of tanking with a bear. This buff will not break the druid in PvP or Pve, but will make tanking more convenient without forcing the bear to go out of shape and lose rage.

[Bigsmerf]

It's not "necessary" and you can still pop it in between swings on many bosses.

I think you don’t understand the issue of tanking with a bear. This buff will not break the druid in PvP or Pve, but will make tanking more convenient without forcing the bear to go out of shape and lose rage.

No. It is very much an issue in PvP. If you can't see the reasons as to why, well... Clearly you need to look harder.


Again, this is coming from a feral main. I don't PvP often though, but you don't need to do that to know something this obvious.

[Majestik51]

does HOJ emperor trinket applies for Feral Druids in Twow?

[Twinking]

It's not "necessary" and you can still pop it in between swings on many bosses.

I think you don’t understand the issue of tanking with a bear. This buff will not break the druid in PvP or Pve, but will make tanking more convenient without forcing the bear to go out of shape and lose rage.

No. It is very much an issue in PvP. If you can't see the reasons as to why, well... Clearly you need to look harder.


Again, this is coming from a feral main. I don't PvP often though, but you don't need to do that to know something this obvious.

I'm surprised by people who think Feral is the op in pvp, maybe you've never heard of mages, rogs, priests and warlocks? Try to kill at least one of them...

[Grizb37]

I think you don’t understand the issue of tanking with a bear. This buff will not break the druid in PvP or Pve, but will make tanking more convenient without forcing the bear to go out of shape and lose rage.

No. It is very much an issue in PvP. If you can't see the reasons as to why, well... Clearly you need to look harder.


Again, this is coming from a feral main. I don't PvP often though, but you don't need to do that to know something this obvious.

I'm surprised by people who think Feral is the op in pvp, maybe you've never heard of mages, rogs, priests and warlocks? Try to kill at least one of them...

The same brainless idiots that keep attacking when the druid pops frenzied regen. Feeding them rage

[Intensity]

Wild Strikes in SoD works pretty good and certainly isn't op. Would like to see WF or wild Strikes added for druid.

[Grizb37]

How is druid with WF OP in PvP? Bear with WF will do nowhere near the devastation a WF Warrior does.

[Wafflecrusher]

If as a bear druid I could benefit from WF, my aggro would be incredible. It's already solid, but that would basically mean I could pull threat off geared warriors pretty easily.

[Drubarrymooer]

If as a bear druid I could benefit from WF, my aggro would be incredible. It's already solid, but that would basically mean I could pull threat off geared warriors pretty easily.

What's wrong with pulling threat off of warriors? If you're in bear, that means you're a tank. Am I missing something?

[Kangaraxxus]

It kinda kills the entire mchanic where dps is capped by your tank threat generation ability.
However part of bear strong threat generation comes from MCP. So killing MCP and compensating it with WF should work fine i guess.

[Grizb37]

If as a bear druid I could benefit from WF, my aggro would be incredible. It's already solid, but that would basically mean I could pull threat off geared warriors pretty easily.

Try tanking bosses in naxx without MCP to build threat. Adding WF for bear would be a small step to reducing need for MCP.

[Voodoochile]

I feel like it would be nice if instead of a standard wf proc, the wf totem would give an attack speed buff to cat and bear forms specifically.

[Atreidon]

If as a bear druid I could benefit from WF, my aggro would be incredible. It's already solid, but that would basically mean I could pull threat off geared warriors pretty easily.

Try tanking bosses in naxx without MCP to build threat. Adding WF for bear would be a small step to reducing need for MCP.

https://database.turtle-wow.org/?spell=45736
You'll do just fine...

[Bigsmerf]

If as a bear druid I could benefit from WF, my aggro would be incredible. It's already solid, but that would basically mean I could pull threat off geared warriors pretty easily.

Try tanking bosses in naxx without MCP to build threat. Adding WF for bear would be a small step to reducing need for MCP.

https://database.turtle-wow.org/?spell=45736
You'll do just fine...

Don't forget the extra buffs they have in the form of wolfshead enchant being usable on any helmet- meaning you can have better head stats while still having maximum efficiency powershifting.

That, and enrage having a little attack speed buff when you use it (with a talent ofc). On top of some other minor damage related changes that apply to bear I can't remember off the top of my head. Overall, feral gets more stuff that really helps with threat, and I've never needed MCP to tank before.

[Akos1896]

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Don't forget the extra buffs they have in the form of wolfshead enchant being usable on any helmet- meaning you can have better head stats while still having maximum efficiency powershifting.

That, and enrage having a little attack speed buff when you use it (with a talent ofc). On top of some other minor damage related changes that apply to bear I can't remember off the top of my head. Overall, feral gets more stuff that really helps with threat, and I've never needed MCP to tank before.
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Will be a weird question but here we go.
I tried feral tanking at TWOW and wanted to make it happen. Tanked until early Scarlet Monastery, after that went healer.
My experience: I was seeing a giant bear rectum 90% of the time and every time the corridor was kinda narrow (SFK, SM dungeons) I didn't see anything except for the bear rectum. Had to shapeshift to see things.
Is there a workaround for it besides race change from tauren male for smaller bear model?
Liked the gameplay but stopped because I felt like a blind guy during half the pulls.

[Itorch100]

I wish people would stop suggesting ideas from SoD. It's basically a completely different philosophy from vanilla, if any, not to mention the devs are out of touch.

I can totally understand wanting your spec to be raid-viable, but there are more better quality solutions than giving one of shaman defining spells to another class.

[Akos1896]

I donn't think OP wants to give a WF ability to feral.
In my read he wants ferals to benefit from WF.

[Itorch100]

mb, misunderstood then :)

In this case I'm actually FOR allowing druids to benefit from windfury totem. Didn't even realize they don't lol

[Atreidon]

Windfury itself makes every melee good, but druid especially so, we talk about the class with tigerfury and omen of clarity

There is agi totem and the ability to form melee grps that are not centered around wf. The core problem here is that wf is so much better than the alternative ...

[Olfman]

Windfury itself makes every melee good, but druid especially so, we talk about the class with tigerfury and omen of clarity

There is agi totem and the ability to form melee grps that are not centered around wf. The core problem here is that wf is so much better than the alternative ...

We're talking about a class with 1.0 base attack speed that uses 50% attack speed boost as a part of core rotation. 0.8 sec delay between 1st and 2nd WF hits will actually LOWER cat DPS.

Might be somewhat useful for bear though.

[Voodoochile]

Windfury itself makes every melee good, but druid especially so, we talk about the class with tigerfury and omen of clarity

There is agi totem and the ability to form melee grps that are not centered around wf. The core problem here is that wf is so much better than the alternative ...

We're talking about a class with 1.0 base attack speed that uses 50% attack speed boost as a part of core rotation. 0.8 sec delay between 1st and 2nd WF hits will actually LOWER cat DPS.

Might be somewhat useful for bear though.

Theres no way the time between 1st and 2nd wf hits are .8secs bro thats long as hell. Are you thinking about WF proc internal cd?