Paladin mains are now pretending that Hunter is the OP and the problem

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Paladin mains are now pretending that Hunter is the OP and the problem

Post by Kuqtuvaldor » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:49 am

We need to gather and get these neckbeards nerfed, their narrative changes all the time to keep their faceroll going.
Hunter, my experience, is one of the best designed classes with clear strengths and weaknesses, aka counterplay.

There was one Palamain on forum even claiming that, apparently, alliance on bgs is "40% hunters". LMAO the irony. Really tired of staring at those "holy warriors" every bg, or should I call them fedora tipping, malicious neckbeards.

Sincerely, Warlock main.

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Post by Tinyplease » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:06 pm

There is not a single paladin main on the server that doesn't have brain rot.

And there is a not a single paladin main who PvP's with an alt class, they always only play paladin.

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Post by Ataika » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:10 pm

But hunters are op too ?
Huge burst in t3 thanks to artificial shot (without twow changes hunters were bursty only during Multishot cooldown)
Viper sting that drains crapton of mana
Pets that regenerate 10% ofcombat making mend pet obsolete

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Post by Grizb37 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:30 pm

Hunters only go into OP territory with naxx / T3 gear. Paladins face roll from the get go. Not to mention all their defensive tool kit.

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Post by Infinatis12 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:08 am

Grizb37 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:30 pm
Hunters only go into OP territory with naxx / T3 gear. Paladins face roll from the get go. Not to mention all their defensive tool kit.
This hunters only become really op with T3 and naxx gear ect it seems paladin are the divas on this server...

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Post by Edouchan » Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:16 am

hunter circle jerk thread

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Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:05 am

Maybe it's because hunter can kite? I mean, come on, a basically passive 30% move speed, a pet, slowing shots and freezing traps (if you can set them up) Obviously hunter's going to counter an immobile plate wearing paladin's cheeks if you give them enough space to work with.
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Re: Paladin mains are now pretending that Hunter is the OP and the problem

Post by Borefficz » Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:36 am

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:05 am
Maybe it's because hunter can kite? I mean, come on, a basically passive 30% move speed, a pet, slowing shots and freezing traps (if you can set them up) Obviously hunter's going to counter an immobile plate wearing paladin's cheeks if you give them enough space to work with.
Have you ever fought a level 60 paladin as a level 60 hunter on turtle?

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Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm

Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:36 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:05 am
Maybe it's because hunter can kite? I mean, come on, a basically passive 30% move speed, a pet, slowing shots and freezing traps (if you can set them up) Obviously hunter's going to counter an immobile plate wearing paladin's cheeks if you give them enough space to work with.
Have you ever fought a level 60 paladin as a level 60 hunter on turtle?
No need to.

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Post by Jstansberry » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm

No need to.

Average turtle wow paladin player lmao. Not a single Cleanse or Blessing of Freedom was cast.

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Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:50 pm

Jstansberry wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm

No need to.

Average turtle wow paladin player lmao. Not a single Cleanse or Blessing of Freedom was cast.
Ya love to see it. It's fun watching those goobers struggle when someone who can outplay them rolls up.
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Post by Borefficz » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:11 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm
Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:36 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:05 am
Maybe it's because hunter can kite? I mean, come on, a basically passive 30% move speed, a pet, slowing shots and freezing traps (if you can set them up) Obviously hunter's going to counter an immobile plate wearing paladin's cheeks if you give them enough space to work with.
Have you ever fought a level 60 paladin as a level 60 hunter on turtle?
No need to.

Up next level 45 warrior beats an afk 60 mage, warriors op lol

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Post by Bigsmerf » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:28 pm

Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:11 pm
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm
Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:36 am


Have you ever fought a level 60 paladin as a level 60 hunter on turtle?
No need to.

Up next level 45 warrior beats an afk 60 mage, warriors op lol
Hunter ain't OP. That's not my point here. You can just counter a paladin if you play right (and in the case of this video, if they play wrong. Terribly wrong.)
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Post by Borefficz » Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:07 am

Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:28 pm
Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:11 pm
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:59 pm


No need to.

Up next level 45 warrior beats an afk 60 mage, warriors op lol
Hunter ain't OP. That's not my point here. You can just counter a paladin if you play right (and in the case of this video, if they play wrong. Terribly wrong.)
If you are a hunter in a hunter vs paladin scenario there are two possible outcomes

1. You are in an open field without any objects to break line of sight - you kite the helpless paladin trying to catch or run away from you, it will take a LONG time to kill a paladin with cooldowns - either you eventually succeed or some alliance player happens to come by, attacks you, renders your aspect of the cheetah useless, the paladin catches up and you die
2. There are objects that allow the paladin to break line of sight - this is a stalemate as the paladin can't do anything to you, but also you can't really deal any threatening damage the paladin can't recover from. Maybe you will eventually be able to secure the kill but again realistically another player will show up by then.

While hunters technically counter paladins they will avoid them in world PvP, and in battlegrounds they will simply prioritize killing a squishier target if possible.
Viper Sting is a non factor in 1v1 against any paladin with two brain cells as (re)applying it costs the hunter a much higher % of maximum mana than it costs the paladin to remove the poison.

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Post by Manletow » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:19 pm

Borefficz wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:07 am
Bigsmerf wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:28 pm
Borefficz wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:11 pm
Up next level 45 warrior beats an afk 60 mage, warriors op lol
Hunter ain't OP. That's not my point here. You can just counter a paladin if you play right (and in the case of this video, if they play wrong. Terribly wrong.)
If you are a hunter in a hunter vs paladin scenario there are two possible outcomes

1. You are in an open field without any objects to break line of sight - you kite the helpless paladin trying to catch or run away from you, it will take a LONG time to kill a paladin with cooldowns - either you eventually succeed or some alliance player happens to come by, attacks you, renders your aspect of the cheetah useless, the paladin catches up and you die
2. There are objects that allow the paladin to break line of sight - this is a stalemate as the paladin can't do anything to you, but also you can't really deal any threatening damage the paladin can't recover from. Maybe you will eventually be able to secure the kill but again realistically another player will show up by then.

While hunters technically counter paladins they will avoid them in world PvP, and in battlegrounds they will simply prioritize killing a squishier target if possible.
Viper Sting is a non factor in 1v1 against any paladin with two brain cells as (re)applying it costs the hunter a much higher % of maximum mana than it costs the paladin to remove the poison.
Well said.
Indeed, if Hunters are supposed to be the counter to Paladins then they are rather bad at their job im afraid.

That video was a joke IDK why anyone would post that as a serious showcase of anything.
That Paladin wasn't even trying to win the battle they were submissively running away for 90% of it. lol
Paladin is broken in PVP.
Frost Mage is broken in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Feral Druid is mediocre in PVP.
Enhancement Shaman is fine. Stop begging for goofy custom abilities.

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Post by Atreidon » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:26 pm

Hunters are not a paladin counter. Any class with majorly physical dmg has to fight a battle of attrition against a paladin. And thats a scenario the healerclass obviously excells in.
Casters fare much better against a paladin in most realistic scenarios.

While hunter can theoretically kill paladins without the paladin being able to do anything. This requires ample space with no mobs that might slow the hunter. No line of sight protection or other player interference.

Something that doesnt happen all to often

Hunter vs paladin is simply a frustrating encounter regardless of which side of the exchange you play.

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Post by Volkyte » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:29 pm

Real counter to paladin is lock. Worldton of cc that totally disable him and magic damage that makes plate useless.
Hunters are a very good and rewarding class, but far from OP

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