Shockadin or Retri ? Solo wPVP/BGs

[Molodostzovet]

Hello, guys.
I'm newbie at tWoW.
Is it hard to get plate with +spelldamage for Shockadin?
Start playing at start new pvp realm. Which spec is more effective/OP in PvP? Can you show build please?
I'm doing solo pvp in open world, BGs also.

[Tendies]

No, shockadin gearing is easy and the spec is utterly broken in PvP.

[Thol]

Turtle WoW added more plate spell damage items and modified existing sets too. Shockadin is superior in the sense that it provides more support, since it's a fully fledged healer with strong burst to defend himself. If you only do solo PvP I think Ret/Spelladin would be better for you.
Here are the talents I use as shockadin: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ZUJ0W6V-0-5F0JE

[Steelgrip]

Turtle WoW added more plate spell damage items and modified existing sets too. Shockadin is superior in the sense that it provides more support, since it's a fully fledged healer with strong burst to defend himself. If you only do solo PvP I think Ret/Spelladin would be better for you.
Here are the talents I use as shockadin: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ZUJ0W6V-0-5F0JE

Why no 5/5 Seal of Right? Is it bad?

[Thol]

Turtle WoW added more plate spell damage items and modified existing sets too. Shockadin is superior in the sense that it provides more support, since it's a fully fledged healer with strong burst to defend himself. If you only do solo PvP I think Ret/Spelladin would be better for you.
Here are the talents I use as shockadin: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ZUJ0W6V-0-5F0JE

Why no 5/5 Seal of Right? Is it bad?

Afaik it only increases the base damage of it and does not scales with spellpower, it could be good if Turtle changed that.

[Tendies]

Don't forget to abuse lifesteal with your spec

[Molodostzovet]

Don't forget to abuse lifesteal with your spec

What you mean?

[Tendies]

Don't forget to abuse lifesteal with your spec

What you mean?

Lifesteal procs scale with spellpower and can be procced on command with how broken paladins are on turtle.

[Mativh]

Shockadin shined the most in TBC, but is more viable on TWoW than in basic Vanilla.
It is a hybrid, you deal less damage than retribution but have better healing. It is in my opinion more interesting and definitely an enjoyable build to do wpvp with, there is enough spellpower gear, if you're willing to wear non-plate, and new ones have been added.

I'd like to see +holy damage items and holy resist being part of the game.

Needless to say, whenever I see a Paladin doing PvP only because the class is OP, I like to teach them a lesson. Give my regards to the Spirit Healer.

[Isabellaparker]

I can confidently tell you that it is much simpler than you think

[Worth]

Both Shockadin and Ret Paladin can be effective in solo PvP and BGs in World of Warcraft Classic. Gear can be difficult to acquire, as you will need to find plate with +spell damage

[Batey9]

Turtle WoW added more plate spell damage items and modified existing sets too. Shockadin is superior in the sense that it provides more support, since it's a fully fledged healer with strong burst to defend himself. If you only do solo PvP I think Ret/Spelladin would be better for you.
Here are the talents I use as shockadin: https://talents.turtle-wow.org/paladin/ZUJ0W6V-0-5F0JE

Why no 5/5 Seal of Right? Is it bad?

Afaik it only increases the base damage of it and does not scales with spellpower, it could be good if Turtle changed that.

This is correct. Same reason Healing Light isn't good. The bonus applies before the SP factors in. Only real reason why Healadins take Healing Light is because there's no reason not to on your path to Illumination. For Shockadin, you can really skip both. Improved Seal of Righteousness and Healing Light are both new player traps.

[Thol]

Why no 5/5 Seal of Right? Is it bad?

Afaik it only increases the base damage of it and does not scales with spellpower, it could be good if Turtle changed that.

This is correct. Same reason Healing Light isn't good. The bonus applies before the SP factors in. Only real reason why Healadins take Healing Light is because there's no reason not to on your path to Illumination. For Shockadin, you can really skip both. Improved Seal of Righteousness and Healing Light are both new player traps.

I'm taking healing light since on Turtle it says it increases the effectiveness of Holy Shock as well, not sure if it's both offense and defense though or only when healing with it.