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Re: Rated blood ring

Post by Elleshar » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:35 am

Ragetto wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:14 pm
Elleshar wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:08 pm If rated arenas were ever to become a thing, should consumes maybe be restricted to just conjured items like it is in retail?
Like in TBC/WotLK, I would say, meaning a limitation on the types of consumables as well as spells with too long cooldowns.

Excessive use of powerful consumables would ruin everything, I believe.

But well, until we get to that point...
Yeah probably for the best, I think trinkets with over 10 min cd was disabled too for tbc/wotlk arenas.

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Post by Noshu » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:16 am

Elleshar wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:35 am
Ragetto wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:14 pm
Elleshar wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:08 pm If rated arenas were ever to become a thing, should consumes maybe be restricted to just conjured items like it is in retail?
Like in TBC/WotLK, I would say, meaning a limitation on the types of consumables as well as spells with too long cooldowns.

Excessive use of powerful consumables would ruin everything, I believe.

But well, until we get to that point...
Yeah probably for the best, I think trinkets with over 10 min cd was disabled too for tbc/wotlk arenas.
Yep, same rules regarding trinkets and long cd abilities should apply imo

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Post by Chudman123 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:43 am

I think you could allow some consumes.

Without free action potion playing pug warrior may as well just be an instant loss.

Also would you ban nades??

Could definitely ban the sleep trinket and sleep dust. Maybe make it so invon sets off a CD so you can't icelock 2x, lip, then get a bop.

Banning all consumes seems too much imo.
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Post by Noshu » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:38 pm

Chudman123 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:43 am I think you could allow some consumes.

Without free action potion playing pug warrior may as well just be an instant loss.

Also would you ban nades??

Could definitely ban the sleep trinket and sleep dust. Maybe make it so invon sets off a CD so you can't icelock 2x, lip, then get a bop.

Banning all consumes seems too much imo.
I don't care too much tbh, all I want is some competetive place to pvp. The details aren't so important and could be iterated on imo :)

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Post by Noshu » Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:53 am

Rated arenas, and I'll drop wow classic on retail

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Post by Chudman123 » Thu May 02, 2024 5:18 am

Noshu wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:38 pm
Chudman123 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:43 am I think you could allow some consumes.
I don't care too much tbh, all I want is some competetive place to pvp. The details aren't so important and could be iterated on imo :)
Yes this for sure. Just an iteration to find a fun competition
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Post by Tastinggoman » Sun May 05, 2024 1:41 am

i check this topic on weekly basis for almost a year.
Still, the rated arena has not yet been initiated.
I actually began to believe that it will not happen here.

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Post by Noshu » Tue May 07, 2024 7:31 pm

Tastinggoman wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 1:41 am i check this topic on weekly basis for almost a year.
Still, the rated arena has not yet been initiated.
I actually began to believe that it will not happen here.
Yea, and I've been checking it as well since i started it in September. Starting to lose hope. Turtle not having rated arenas is the only thing that makes me consider epoch over it

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Post by Griffith961 » Wed May 08, 2024 11:01 pm

I'll just say one thing, apart from bandages and healthstone if you're with warlock and food/water if ur with mage, there should be no consumables. Also ban the obvious Lay on Hands/Recklessness and whatever else was banned on Tbc.

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Post by Borefficz » Thu May 09, 2024 8:09 am

Yes please it would give me the reason to actually play the game instead of either raidlogging or sitting in Orgrimmar selling enchants

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Post by Noshu » Tue May 14, 2024 10:47 am

Griffith961 wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 11:01 pm I'll just say one thing, apart from bandages and healthstone if you're with warlock and food/water if ur with mage, there should be no consumables. Also ban the obvious Lay on Hands/Recklessness and whatever else was banned on Tbc.
same item rules as tbc/wrath for arenas is the way to go imo. So yes, I totally agree with u. Maybe ban skull of impending doom also, but its not so major.

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Post by Noshu » Thu May 16, 2024 6:01 am

Borefficz wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 8:09 am Yes please it would give me the reason to actually play the game instead of either raidlogging or sitting in Orgrimmar selling enchants
Totally agree, rated arenas is loved by so many in later expansions. It's a feature that shouldnt be so hard to implement and would be loved by the pvp community

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Post by Noshu » Mon May 20, 2024 8:59 am

Please give rated arenas, I want something to do in-game except raid-logging

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Post by Noshu » Fri May 24, 2024 9:43 am

Tastinggoman wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 1:41 am i check this topic on weekly basis for almost a year.
Still, the rated arena has not yet been initiated.
I actually began to believe that it will not happen here.
I've lost hope

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Post by Noshu » Mon May 27, 2024 7:40 am

rated arenas plox

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Post by Noshu » Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:06 am

rated arenas would be so fun, something to do and aim for between raids

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Post by Noshu » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:13 am

Im sick of afkers in bgs, give rated arenas so we can have some real pvp content

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Post by Ulfgang » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:39 pm

Yes please 2v2 and rated!, blood ring is practically dead right now crying_turtle

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Post by Noshu » Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:05 am

Ulfgang wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:39 pm Yes please 2v2 and rated!, blood ring is practically dead right now crying_turtle
Yep, some competetive pvp would be so damn nice

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Post by Noshu » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:46 pm

rated arenas

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Post by Noshu » Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:56 am

rated arenas please <3

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Post by Noshu » Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:36 am

Ulfgang wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:39 pm Yes please 2v2 and rated!, blood ring is practically dead right now crying_turtle
yeah, we really need some new and proper pvp content

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Post by Noshu » Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:09 pm

please fix pvp

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Post by Noshu » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:53 pm

wtb rated arenas

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Post by Noshu » Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:48 am

rated arenas

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Post by Hardcorehygge » Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:31 am

As a competitive PvP player and former Arena Tournament tryhard, I would love to see rated arenas (and even battlegrounds) introduced to Turtle WoW! However, I understand that the server’s main focus is roleplay, so here’s my suggestion:

Introduce 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 arenas, and I'll explain how and the reasoning for this.

First, add rated arenas similar to what we know from other expansions. Players would form teams and compete for ratings, with a leaderboard showcasing the top teams. It would be awesome to award titles to the top teams, much like in later expansions.

Additionally, a feature called Wargames (or Mak’gora, for lore purposes) could be implemented. This would allow players to queue up, see the names of other teams in the queue (Maybe just the party leaders name), and challenge them directly. The opposing team would have to accept the match, giving players the freedom to choose their opponents. This is perfect for creating RP events, as teams could roleplay within the arena without the pressure of ratings (since you shouldn't gain rating or rep from these matches). That way you cannot abuse it to gain rating or rep.

Another cool addition to Wargames (or Mak’gora) would be the 5v5 1v1 format, also known as subwars. In this mode, teams send in one player at a time, with the next player entering as soon as the previous one dies. This creates exciting possibilities, like a 1v5 comeback scenario! I used to play this format on a private server years ago, and it was an absolute blast. Here's a newer video that shows how fun it can be.

The third and arguably best reason to add Wargames (Mak’gora) is for tournaments. Tournaments would offer players a way to create events, with or without gold prizes, fostering a sense of community and giving endgame players a reason to keep playing and competing against one another. To make this work, a spectate option would be essential, allowing players to watch games live without participating. This would make setting up tournaments easier, though duel tournaments in stv works too! (shoutout to @S4rs for the awesome duel tournament!).

In my opinion, ranked arenas should focus on the 2v2 and 3v3 brackets, as 1v1 and 5v5 formats don’t feel as balanced. That said, it wouldn’t bother me if they were included. This system could also work in battlegrounds, both ranked and the Wargames. Imagine a 40v40 AV RP event! If that’s not a roleplayers wet pvp dream, I don’t know what is.

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Post by Noshu » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:03 am

Hardcorehygge wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:31 am As a competitive PvP player and former Arena Tournament tryhard, I would love to see rated arenas (and even battlegrounds) introduced to Turtle WoW! However, I understand that the server’s main focus is roleplay, so here’s my suggestion:

Introduce 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 arenas, and I'll explain how and the reasoning for this.

First, add rated arenas similar to what we know from other expansions. Players would form teams and compete for ratings, with a leaderboard showcasing the top teams. It would be awesome to award titles to the top teams, much like in later expansions.

Additionally, a feature called Wargames (or Mak’gora, for lore purposes) could be implemented. This would allow players to queue up, see the names of other teams in the queue (Maybe just the party leaders name), and challenge them directly. The opposing team would have to accept the match, giving players the freedom to choose their opponents. This is perfect for creating RP events, as teams could roleplay within the arena without the pressure of ratings (since you shouldn't gain rating or rep from these matches). That way you cannot abuse it to gain rating or rep.

Another cool addition to Wargames (or Mak’gora) would be the 5v5 1v1 format, also known as subwars. In this mode, teams send in one player at a time, with the next player entering as soon as the previous one dies. This creates exciting possibilities, like a 1v5 comeback scenario! I used to play this format on a private server years ago, and it was an absolute blast. Here's a newer video that shows how fun it can be.

The third and arguably best reason to add Wargames (Mak’gora) is for tournaments. Tournaments would offer players a way to create events, with or without gold prizes, fostering a sense of community and giving endgame players a reason to keep playing and competing against one another. To make this work, a spectate option would be essential, allowing players to watch games live without participating. This would make setting up tournaments easier, though duel tournaments in stv works too! (shoutout to @S4rs for the awesome duel tournament!).

In my opinion, ranked arenas should focus on the 2v2 and 3v3 brackets, as 1v1 and 5v5 formats don’t feel as balanced. That said, it wouldn’t bother me if they were included. This system could also work in battlegrounds, both ranked and the Wargames. Imagine a 40v40 AV RP event! If that’s not a roleplayers wet pvp dream, I don’t know what is.
All of these suggestions sound great. But I don't think the server's population can keep them all active. I'd prefer if they only added like 1v1 and / or 2v2 first, since it requires the least people. I doubt 3v3, 5v5 and rated BG queue would pop unfortunately. In a perfect world I'd like all though, with constant queue pop

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Post by Noshu » Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:11 pm

aah, yes. Rated pvp

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Post by Noshu » Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:30 am

Noshu wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:11 pm aah, yes. Rated pvp
what he said

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