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Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:09 pm
by Nico79486
This is a really good maj, ty for that !

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:44 am
by W3w3w9
2 little questions. Why some of races skin colors, like troll or dworf turn models into dirt? Why orc models is low res?

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:40 pm
by Ardur
Just wanted to say thank you for your efforts you put into this HD Mod, its a bliss to play with it on this Server (-:

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:15 pm
by Landoperk1
Thanks for all the effort into these patches.

There's something in patch-A that causes aoe effects to stay on screen until you change maps or restart the client.
I've tested this with a fresh client download from TWoW and it's isolated to patch-A. I might have missed this posted already but I could not find anything.
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Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
by Redmagejoe
Landoperk1 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:15 pm
Unrelated to the patch. Happens randomly to players on base game too.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:35 pm
by Landoperk1
Redmagejoe wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
Landoperk1 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:15 pm
Unrelated to the patch. Happens randomly to players on base game too.
Thanks for the reply.
Not arguing, just providing my experience.
Once Patch-A get's placed into a fresh data directory(no other modifications to the client/interface) the bug appears.
Remove Patch-A, bug disappears.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 pm
by Redmagejoe
Try deleting your cache to see if this resolves the issue.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 pm
by Ardur
W3w3w9 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:44 am
2 little questions. Why some of races skin colors, like troll or dworf turn models into dirt? Why orc models is low res?
I noticed the same with the resolution/texture quality, not only for Orc Models but also Dwarves

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:51 pm
by Gullhc
Landoperk1 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:15 pm
Thanks for all the effort into these patches.

There's something in patch-A that causes aoe effects to stay on screen until you change maps or restart the client.
I've tested this with a fresh client download from TWoW and it's isolated to patch-A. I might have missed this posted already but I could not find anything.
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Same Problem here. Tried several times and its 100% related to patch-A.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:00 pm
by Glarthir
In theory, how hard would it be to convert the custom skins to HD? For example the hair colors. If I recoloured the vanilla hairs to fit the ones in this patch, would it be easy for you to include them? I'm not the best visual artist, but if you can give some pointers along the way, I'd be willing to give it a go :D

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:18 pm
by Bittermens
Glarthir wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:00 pm
In theory, how hard would it be to convert the custom skins to HD? For example the hair colors. If I recoloured the vanilla hairs to fit the ones in this patch, would it be easy for you to include them? I'm not the best visual artist, but if you can give some pointers along the way, I'd be willing to give it a go :D
Custom skins we see now exists in retail too

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:08 pm
by Xigbclutchix
Seems like the Swift Grey Steed mount texture is broken, is it possible to fix?

Image of it:
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Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:55 am
by Redmagejoe
If current custom skins exist in retail, they would need to be extracted from CASC, downported for vanilla, and then I could attempt to add them to patch-A.
Gullhc wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:51 pm
Same Problem here. Tried several times and its 100% related to patch-A.
This has been addressed a number of times, and while I am not saying that it is not happening before applying patch-A and then happening after patch-A, I can assure you that this issue is not exclusive to or caused 100% consistently to all players by applying patch-A. Staff addressed these complaints on and off long before my patch was made available, and an exact cause was never narrowed down. Some combination of graphics settings, cache clearing, and other unknown variables seem to cause this.

I have a friend who has with and without patch-A had this issue at various times over the last year, seemingly with no rhyme or reason. I myself had it happen a sum total of one time in my year of playing here, without the use of my own patch, and it lasted for approximately one day. I still do not know what caused or solved the problem.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:36 pm
by Zielarka
Hello I have a question. I have the same visual bug that is mentioned above (with spell effects staying forever) which makes it impossible to raid with that addon.

Does anyone have the older version of patch A? Maybe having an older version would remove the bug for me...

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:40 pm
by Redmagejoe
********** UPDATE **********
New version of patch-A is available for download. Finally narrowed down the majority of High Elf "invisible paper doll" (dressing room and character sheet) issues, as well as a number of crashes, and added even more NO_DUPLICATES flags to sounds to cut down on earrape. There are still no artists to provide HD textures for custom skins and Warlords-deprecated mounts, so please do not ask about these unless you are willing to volunteer an artist.
********** UPDATE 2 **********
Another minor fix that addresses Azuresong Mageblade being invisible by removing a corrupted enchantment glow particle effect. With this, the only remaining issues should be missing HD textures for custom or deprecated content.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:12 pm
by Bittermens
Redmagejoe wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:55 am
If current custom skins exist in retail, they would need to be extracted from CASC, downported for vanilla, and then I could attempt to add them to patch-A.
Gullhc wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:51 pm
Same Problem here. Tried several times and its 100% related to patch-A.
This has been addressed a number of times, and while I am not saying that it is not happening before applying patch-A and then happening after patch-A, I can assure you that this issue is not exclusive to or caused 100% consistently to all players by applying patch-A. Staff addressed these complaints on and off long before my patch was made available, and an exact cause was never narrowed down. Some combination of graphics settings, cache clearing, and other unknown variables seem to cause this.

I have a friend who has with and without patch-A had this issue at various times over the last year, seemingly with no rhyme or reason. I myself had it happen a sum total of one time in my year of playing here, without the use of my own patch, and it lasted for approximately one day. I still do not know what caused or solved the problem.
Blizzard Added wildhammer NPC's and even some of the custom skins of now as npc and player customization, those can be added off it.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:24 am
by Redmagejoe
Again, I cannot add them unless someone provides me with the downported assets. I don't have the means to do that.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
by Realtack
Hey there! I have a bug as a warrior. when sheathing and unsheathing my weapon it does the animation but not actually grabbing the weapons or putting them back.
Is this a common bug and how to fix?

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:19 pm
by Jackless89
Realtack wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
Hey there! I have a bug as a warrior. when sheathing and unsheathing my weapon it does the animation but not actually grabbing the weapons or putting them back.
Is this a common bug and how to fix?
Yes i have the same glitch with my paladin. Not a huge deal though.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:46 pm
by Realtack
Jackless89 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:19 pm
Realtack wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
Hey there! I have a bug as a warrior. when sheathing and unsheathing my weapon it does the animation but not actually grabbing the weapons or putting them back.
Is this a common bug and how to fix?
Yes i have the same glitch with my paladin. Not a huge deal though.

I hope this can be fixed, other than that the hd patch is awesome.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:14 pm
by Grauhase
Thank you so much! I just cant play anymore without your patch ;)

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:32 pm
by Jraie
Not sure if this is a bug or how exactly to report it as it really only seems like its affecting some colors, But for things like Guild tabards, they are showing up bright pink rather then their intended colors after installing both files.

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That tabard is normally dark purple/gold for example.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:24 am
by Redmagejoe
What is the guild? I'll see if I can reproduce it in-game with one of your members.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:29 am
by Realtack
Will sheathing and unsheathing be fixed in a future patch or is it not doable for you?
It's the only thing stopping me to use this. Which I pity so much because I love the work you put into this man!

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am
by Redmagejoe
The animations can't be properly downported which is why they weren't in the original mod I inherited from the original author before making it Turtle compatible. The future sheathing and unsheathing animations are likely too complex to properly downport to the very stiff vanilla animations, or the conversion process simply did not work for whatever reason.

Regardless, nothing from Warlords+ can be ported unless someone is able to reliably navigate the CASC system and pull the necessary assets to even attempt to re-downport. For all I know, the original author manually downported everything himself rather than using an automated tool.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:58 pm
by Realtack
Redmagejoe wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am
The animations can't be properly downported which is why they weren't in the original mod I inherited from the original author before making it Turtle compatible. The future sheathing and unsheathing animations are likely too complex to properly downport to the very stiff vanilla animations, or the conversion process simply did not work for whatever reason.

Regardless, nothing from Warlords+ can be ported unless someone is able to reliably navigate the CASC system and pull the necessary assets to even attempt to re-downport. For all I know, the original author manually downported everything himself rather than using an automated tool.
But the animation is correct and working as intended, except that it's not grabbing the actual weapon in the hands.
Such a pity that this is hard to fix :(

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:13 pm
by Zer0cool
The model can't be fixed since the issue appeared in the vanilla models, which means editing and downgrading the model to work from early WoD to classic “broke” some “animations”. Even if inspected in Blender, for some weird reason it wasn't working correctly. This was from an early stage and even some people from the model community couldn't find a solution.

The same model could work flawlessly in WotLK, but in vanilla it wouldn't. Balsh, who made the character models, had the exact same issue with the sheathing animation too. As it seems, @redmagejoe has done a good job “upgrading” to make it work with the newest classic version of the game. My official mod can be found https://model-changing.net/index.php?ap ... llabs&id=9, but it's only for the classic 1.12 version of the game.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:52 pm
by Realtack
Zer0cool wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:13 pm
The model can't be fixed since the issue appeared in the vanilla models, which means editing and downgrading the model to work from early WoD to classic “broke” some “animations”. Even if inspected in Blender, for some weird reason it wasn't working correctly. This was from an early stage and even some people from the model community couldn't find a solution.

The same model could work flawlessly in WotLK, but in vanilla it wouldn't. Balsh, who made the character models, had the exact same issue with the sheathing animation too. As it seems, @redmagejoe has done a good job “upgrading” to make it work with the newest classic version of the game. My official mod can be found https://model-changing.net/index.php?ap ... llabs&id=9, but it's only for the classic 1.12 version of the game.
Thanks for the explanation. That's such a pity though.
But nothing to do about it! Thank you both for the effort to publish this though.
Cheers

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:09 pm
by Jraie
Redmagejoe wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:24 am
What is the guild? I'll see if I can reproduce it in-game with one of your members.
Guild is "Greetings Enemy,"

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:55 am
by Huma
Hello im loving the hd pack but im having insane FPS drops in zones like teldrassil when raining specially.... weather/environment effects is causing it since if i put wather effects at 0 the fps drops stops, can you check it? theres something that screw all the performance when theres rain/fog in some areas

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:25 pm
by Werefox
Tried the patch, had multiple disconnects in a row. This might have been a coincidence as my network was weird that day, so - did anybody else have DC problem?

Also, severe performance drop under bad weather, just like Huma described.

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:34 pm
by Huma
Anyway to fix the fps drops caused by the weather? i can edit myself the mpq just tell me what files to remove

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:51 pm
by Telishuna
Casting the spell Brilliance Aura (from Mage Arcane talents) causes cubes to appear on the caster's hands. Likely a missing texture?

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:11 pm
by Bittermens
https://model-changing.net/index.php?ap ... iew&id=368


Quite the good news nor only for TW but all other servers

Re: Turtle HD (WIP)

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:29 am
by Beeroism
Amazing work on this mod, I had no idea something like this was even possible.

Downloaded the latest version and I'm getting crashes when selecting a Tauren in the character creation screen:Image

I searched the forums and saw a similar issue from about a year ago, but nothing recent. Please let me know if there's any other info I can give you to help troubleshoot!


Edit: I can't seem to reproduce this reliably - I just went into the character select screen again and went through various permutations of tauren horns and styles with no issues. Selected other races, no issues. Before this attempt the crash happened three times back to back.