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Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:05 pm
by Ibux
this looks really great. and we can try this version on the seventh of next month? it will be fun. must almost invest in new graphics on my PC, I reckon.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:41 pm
by Sylveria
Ibux wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:05 pm
this looks really great. and we can try this version on the seventh of next month? it will be fun. must almost invest in new graphics on my PC, I reckon.
no - we just will get further information on what this all means on 07.07.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:08 am
by 0ri
Sylveria wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:41 pm
no - we just will get further information on what this all means on 07.07.
In true World of Warcraft fashion, they made an announcement for an announcement!
And like the WoW Fans of old, we are hyped!
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:29 am
by Zulnam
I wish i never saw this. Cause now I want it.
Looking forward to the announcement reveal next month.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:05 pm
by Ragetto
Zulnam wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:29 am
I wish i never saw this. Cause now I want it.
Except the 100% transparent water, which I personally find less 'readable' and appealing. It looks like there's no water, and at first, I thought it was a texture bug.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:23 pm
by Torta
0ri wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:08 am
Sylveria wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:41 pm
no - we just will get further information on what this all means on 07.07.
In true World of Warcraft fashion, they made an announcement for an announcement!
And like the WoW Fans of old, we are hyped!
Why change a working system? :p
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:37 pm
by Daedalus007
Is it just me or does the 'Ray Traced' version look WORSE than the original graphics with HD patches applied? I don't want to go through completely-shadowed areas for no good reason. 2004 graphics don't work well with ray traced shadows. Deus Ex (from 2000) has the same issues if you try to use the 'updated' lighting instead of the developer-done built-in light maps and shadow maps.
Back in the day, area and level designers had to 'bake in' light and shadow maps in a certain way, primarily for aesthetic and artistic purposes. You'd have Unreal Tournament from 1999 that used very specific colors (bright purple, green, etc) to highlight pickups and traversal areas.
The video looks so gross. I'm not a fan of the twow trailer showcasing the lighting/shadow stuff like it is some huge upgrade; the HD patches already do as good or even better than that trailer. Balance is key to maintaining a classic timeless aesthetic compared to ultra-realistic everything.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:33 pm
by Grizb37
Daedalus007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:37 pm
Is it just me or does the 'Ray Traced' version look WORSE than the original graphics with HD patches applied? I don't want to go through completely-shadowed areas for no good reason. 2004 graphics don't work well with ray traced shadows. Deus Ex (from 2000) has the same issues if you try to use the 'updated' lighting instead of the developer-done built-in light maps and shadow maps.
Back in the day, area and level designers had to 'bake in' light and shadow maps in a certain way, primarily for aesthetic and artistic purposes. You'd have Unreal Tournament from 1999 that used very specific colors (bright purple, green, etc) to highlight pickups and traversal areas.
The video looks so gross. I'm not a fan of the twow trailer showcasing the lighting/shadow stuff like it is some huge upgrade; the HD patches already do as good or even better than that trailer. Balance is key to maintaining a classic timeless aesthetic compared to ultra-realistic everything.
You've stated your own opinion, some people like it, some don't. Aslong as turtle wow Devs let us choose original or new graphics I don't see an issue.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:39 pm
by Daedalus007
Grizb37 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:33 pm
*snip*
This ENTIRE forum is people stating their opinions. I don't get the point of you even posting that.
Nowhere in my entire post did I claim to be speaking for anyone OTHER than myself.
I feel that the overhauled graphics may not be in line with what people are seeking from the Classic+ WoW experience. If there was such a high demand for it than Blizzard themselves would've done it ages ago.
Even in later expansions they kept things to a certain aesthetic and avoided overindulging in superfluous overwork on shadows and lighting and RTX this and so on. None of that is necessary.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:14 pm
by Grizb37
Daedalus007 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:39 pm
Grizb37 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:33 pm
*snip*
This ENTIRE forum is people stating their opinions. I don't get the point of you even posting that.
Nowhere in my entire post did I claim to be speaking for anyone OTHER than myself.
I feel that the overhauled graphics may not be in line with what people are seeking from the Classic+ WoW experience. If there was such a high demand for it than Blizzard themselves would've done it ages ago.
Even in later expansions they kept things to a certain aesthetic and avoided overindulging in superfluous overwork on shadows and lighting and RTX this and so on. None of that is necessary.
But why do you care if you can just play the way you want? I doubt the Devs will force this on anyway. So your post was irrelevant as you can just stick with the old graphics.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:18 pm
by Setris
Okay in my country is already 8th of June where is the announcement ???
P.S: I just saw it is 07.07 damn
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:22 pm
by Geojak
Setris wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:18 pm
Okay in my country is already 8th of June where is the announcement ???
7.7 not 7.6,its still a month
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:35 pm
by Pediocore
My Iris XE gonna explode.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:49 pm
by Gex
I want this more than Half Life 3 tbf.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:50 pm
by Twinking
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:41 am
by Shatterfury
The graphics do need an uplift, badly. I hope that the world itself is enlarged, if that isnt too much to ask.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:57 pm
by Clintonm
I'll be super excited if this is a non-Blizzard client!
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:36 pm
by Kseron345
This is very cool and very beautiful. Something in which you will be many times superior to Blizzard, but... will the classic client handle this?
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:14 pm
by Dracarusggotham
Ok guys, this is the last week of june...
Be prepared for the most important news of Turtle WoW...or for the most dissapointing hype created by them.
I personally hope they decided to move all to a most recent client, maybe TBC or WotLK.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:13 am
by Jc473
Dracarusggotham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:14 pm
Ok guys, this is the last week of june...
Be prepared for the most important news of Turtle WoW...or for the most dissapointing hype created by them.
I personally hope they decided to move all to a most recent client, maybe TBC or WotLK.
Hah, don’t get your hopes up. I think it’s an aesthetic option (toggle). They said that this side project team (not the main devs) have been at it for about a year.
For them to change the client to a more modern version (e.g the wotlk one) it would require a hell of a lot more work and you’d probably see no actual content updates during this time because it would be ‘all hands on deck’.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:16 am
by Specialghost
As long as any revamped graphics remains optional, I'm good.
Re: The Next Chapter for Turtle WoW's Classic+
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:59 am
by Kseron345
Left 7 days. I'm waiting this like it's my bithday :D
