Druids in pvp are broken

[Bawanaruto]

Thanks Turtle Wow. just had a Moonkin go 45-0 in an arathi basin BG. 45 killing blows and zero deaths. was just nuking everyone to pieces in a matter of seconds. No one stood a chance, nor could they catch him. stuns you for 3-4 seconds in instant bear charge with no global cooldown, then aoe stun from tauren racial, plus roots. nothing anyone can do.. kinda hilarious to watch in disbelief. Never seen anything like it. I was thinking to myself "he must be hacking". but nope this is normal in Twow. :(

[Geojak]

Any elemtal shamans should be able to take care of him. Earthshock everytime he tries to cast. Oh wait..

[Akos1896]

Balancing druid for PVP is really hard because you basically have to balance 4 builds which are used at the same time.
My best idea is making shapeshift a 1 sec cast but unsure if it breaks anything.

[Grizb37]

Lemme guess you're a paladin. They're the ones that always moan while playing the most busted class in PvP.

[Atreidon]

If your entire battlegournd group got dominated by a moonkin i think the moonkins teamates did a good job protectim him.

Boomkin is definitely one of the more rigid & weak pvp specs for his massive reliance on hardcasting. Of all the problematic specs in pvp, i find it very hard to believe that laserchicken is the most scary thing there is

[Springboards]

moonkin is 1 of the better pvp specs, and no they do not hardcast. moonfire is an insta cast 36yd 600-700 dmg insta no traveltime spell with no cooldown(imagine if hunter arcane shot had no cd and did 600-700 dmg)

people are sleeping on moonkins imo im glad they are finally catching on to it. You cant even use a reflector unlike other casters too
Their only weakness is if they run out of mana they cannot lt themselves like a warlock can so they need to get out of combat and regen or use a manapot , rune or something

[Shockoladetwo]

600-700 dmg insta shot? that is only if it crits. Not white cast hits

A 4 second stun bash with a 1min cooldown you cry about while there is rogues with much longer stuns or paladins that can stun longer with shorter cd? The druid has at least to swap into that form to do it while all other classes mentioned not need to change their "stance" for it.

If you let a class free cast (no matter which class) then they kill people of course...

[Ataika]

Any elemtal shamans should be able to take care of him. Earthshock everytime he tries to cast. Oh wait..

wow 20 yards shocks so dangerous for 31 caster
much counter

[Geojak]

Any elemtal shamans should be able to take care of him. Earthshock everytime he tries to cast. Oh wait..

wow 20 yards shocks so dangerous for 31 caster
much counter

This gotta be trolling

[Gantulga]

The issue is buffed frenzied regen and baseline feral faerie fire. Owlkin frenzy can also be pretty cheesy.

[Templar85]

I see there is a skill issue here

45 killing blows and zero deaths

So the team did most of the damage leaving the opponents at around 20% hp left and druid spells finished them off?

nuking everyone to pieces in a matter of seconds

Like any dps caster can do in a T3 gear against blue geared players?

then aoe stun from tauren racial

Horde have more useful pvp skills than alliance.

plus roots. nothing anyone can do

In roots casters still can cast and hunters can shoot, paladin can heal. Only warrior and rogue have harder time in roots but they also can throw a grenade at the druid to interrupt/ stop him casting dps spell on you. You mean the blue green/geared noobs did nothing against him?

Never seen anything like it. I was thinking to myself "he must be hacking". but nope this is normal in Twow. :(

Now you are sus about legitim or it was just troll posting?


In scale from 1 to 5. Moonkin is 3 in bg and 2 in arena. Moonkin doesn't have spell interrupt. Starfire too long to cast. Insect swarm so low damage often doesn't even worth a global to use it. Moonfire damage is half instant, half as a dot. Spamming it is very mana inefficient.

New resilience rework will adjust about burst damage output. We will see will enough or need more adjustments.

I don't want to derail the topic about pvp but Moonkins in Naxx in bis gear doing just little higher than tank level dps. They actually need some pvp buff/rework and significant late game pve dps increase in a form that not causing much pvp imbalance.

[Manletow]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.

Altho its rather weak its also fair and balanced and needs no changes as the Druid class is designed to be mediocre.
This is intentional and is good game design.

[Bawanaruto]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.

a semi-balance druid just won the dueling tournament for the PvP server (Tel'abim). No one is saying they have to choose the worst talents. I don't think you know all the busted combos/gear/skills Turtle wow druids can achieve. please tell me how many kills you have ranked in before spewing nonsense, this isn't classic retail buddy. i have almost 20,000 kills since class changes. a good/geared druid can kill anyone 1vs1 on Twow. there is no debate.

[Templar85]

Altho its rather weak its also fair and balanced and needs no changes as the Druid class is designed to be mediocre.
This is intentional and is good game design.

Not acceptable in any shape or form that BiS geared balance druid doing tank level damage on Patchwerk.
Should aim to do at least 70% damage of a pure damage dealer.

[Atreidon]

Altho its rather weak its also fair and balanced and needs no changes as the Druid class is designed to be mediocre.
This is intentional and is good game design.

Not acceptable in any shape or form that BiS geared balance druid doing tank level damage on Patchwerk.
Should aim to do at least 70% damage of a pure damage dealer.

Can you please explain the mental gymnastics you took to doublejump to conclusion that moonkin damage needs a 30% nerf while having similar scaling to elemental, mage, warlock & priest is apparently no problem?

[Daedalus007]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.
Altho its rather weak its also fair and balanced and needs no changes as the Druid class is designed to be mediocre.
This is intentional and is good game design.

Another trash take from one of the worst trolls on the forum. Getting called out by others this time. Lulz.
"second worst class/spec in pvp"
"rather weak"
"intentionaal and is good game design"

I'm LMAO at this absurdity. Nothing will satisfy Man-Child until Shamans one-shot every other class lol.
How many pvp whine threads are there gonna be before people just start ignoring these clowns.
EVERY CLASS IS OP BUT MINE! :P

[Shockoladetwo]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.

a semi-balance druid just won the dueling tournament for the PvP server (Tel'abim). No one is saying they have to choose the worst talents. I don't think you know all the busted combos/gear/skills Turtle wow druids can achieve. please tell me how many kills you have ranked in before spewing nonsense, this isn't classic retail buddy. i have almost 20,000 kills since class changes. a good/geared druid can kill anyone 1vs1 on Twow. there is no debate.

A "Tournament" that had exactly 4 participants (including the druid already in numbers).
The tournament would mean something if there were at least 30-40 people who been in that.. not 4 total.

Not to mention that this druid had full world buffs, potions and flasks on him. The tournament was kind of a joke without any rules.

[Drubarrymooer]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.
Altho its rather weak its also fair and balanced and needs no changes as the Druid class is designed to be mediocre.
This is intentional and is good game design.

Another trash take from one of the worst trolls on the forum. Getting called out by others this time. Lulz.
"second worst class/spec in pvp"
"rather weak"
"intentionaal and is good game design"

I'm LMAO at this absurdity. Nothing will satisfy Man-Child until Shamans one-shot every other class lol.
How many pvp whine threads are there gonna be before people just start ignoring these clowns.
EVERY CLASS IS OP BUT MINE! :P

This is why I have them on ignore. One of the worst trolls on the forums. Not even worth reading their posts. Worse than Honorable

[Manletow]

Balance Druid is actually the second 'worst' Class/Spec in PVP.
Warrior being the worst.

a semi-balance druid just won the dueling tournament for the PvP server (Tel'abim). No one is saying they have to choose the worst talents. I don't think you know all the busted combos/gear/skills Turtle wow druids can achieve. please tell me how many kills you have ranked in before spewing nonsense, this isn't classic retail buddy. i have almost 20,000 kills since class changes. a good/geared druid can kill anyone 1vs1 on Twow. there is no debate.

A "Tournament" that had exactly 4 participants (including the druid already in numbers).
The tournament would mean something if there were at least 30-40 people who been in that.. not 4 total.

Not to mention that this druid had full world buffs, potions and flasks on him. The tournament was kind of a joke without any rules.

LOL.
I was suspicious of that guys post cuz yeah that server's low pop can hardly support a real tournament
And could not find any footage of this 'tournament'
also, most importantly: 1v1 is a (mostly) irrelevant joke as PVP that offers rewards is all group/team based

Boomkin are terrible in PVP -- try casting Starfire in a BG and see what happens. KEK

[Gantulga]

Why'd you play as balance/feral/resto in PvP anyway instead of hybrid which is the intended PvP build?
Hybrid druid can 1v1 most classes/specs in the game and can always just escape if needed.