Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

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Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Springboards » Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm

Alliance is refusing to cap flags, assault nodes and generally are in only for honor kills instead of properly playing the BG. This is why they lose 95% of them -- they do not play the way it is supposed to be played.

If you are Alliance reading this, this means YOU HAVE TO ATTACK NODES. YOU CANNOT GO ON DEFENSIVE WITH 1 OR 2 BASES OR YOU WILL LOSE. Yes it is very nice to concentrate all your firepower at stables or GM but this is why you lose.

This means YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO CAP NODES. You have to keep throwing yourself at the flags otherwise you will 100% lose, with horde 4 capping on you.

Maybe introduce a hotfix where the Alliance are not allowed to claim stable?

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Post by Geojak » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:08 pm

The current pvp bracket system has you compete against your faction mates. If everyone losses on your faction, then nobody has a disadvantage for losing. It's just about who can half afk more in bgs without getting banned. This is what we are seeing.

Additionally alliance players are burned out from losing always even when they tried, so at some point they give up. Nerfing shamans, and horde racials could help here. Nerfing paladisn will make it worse.

There is no real reward for trying to win, most alliance apparently see it as a wasted effort, as horde will win anyway, might aswell just stack at stables

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Post by Ataika » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:30 pm

qued 5 times in a row as horde pug (was healer)
lost all of this to alliance premade

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Re: Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Trevor89 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:09 pm

So why don't remove the button "join as group" to begin with? Damn

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Post by Jkldsngkljsng » Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:07 pm

Just employ someone who understands PvP and they'll fix it

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Post by Springboards » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:27 am

do something do something do something please even for horde let us get a debuff if we choose to defend. This cannot go on they defend 1 base every single time start giving a massive exponential dot to everyone who is defending

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Re: Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Springboards » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:06 am

FIX: for every flag you control you get a 30% damage boost. Yes, if you control 4, you get 120%

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Re: Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Elleshar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:48 am

Springboards wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm
Alliance is refusing to cap flags, assault nodes and generally are in only for honor kills instead of properly playing the BG. This is why they lose 95% of them -- they do not play the way it is supposed to be played.

If you are Alliance reading this, this means YOU HAVE TO ATTACK NODES. YOU CANNOT GO ON DEFENSIVE WITH 1 OR 2 BASES OR YOU WILL LOSE. Yes it is very nice to concentrate all your firepower at stables or GM but this is why you lose.

This means YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO CAP NODES. You have to keep throwing yourself at the flags otherwise you will 100% lose, with horde 4 capping on you.

Maybe introduce a hotfix where the Alliance are not allowed to claim stable?
Funny because on Tel'Abim alliance wins almost every game. Seems more like a Nordaanar alliance issue.

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Post by Ataika » Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:50 am

Elleshar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:48 am
Springboards wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm
Alliance is refusing to cap flags, assault nodes and generally are in only for honor kills instead of properly playing the BG. This is why they lose 95% of them -- they do not play the way it is supposed to be played.

If you are Alliance reading this, this means YOU HAVE TO ATTACK NODES. YOU CANNOT GO ON DEFENSIVE WITH 1 OR 2 BASES OR YOU WILL LOSE. Yes it is very nice to concentrate all your firepower at stables or GM but this is why you lose.

This means YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO CAP NODES. You have to keep throwing yourself at the flags otherwise you will 100% lose, with horde 4 capping on you.

Maybe introduce a hotfix where the Alliance are not allowed to claim stable?
Funny because on Tel'Abim alliance wins almost every game. Seems more like a Nordaanar alliance issue.
Your horde plain bad or lack gear
We will see how you win with shamans running aq40 naxx gear.

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Re: Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Elleshar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:54 am

Ataika wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:50 am
Elleshar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:48 am
Springboards wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm
Alliance is refusing to cap flags, assault nodes and generally are in only for honor kills instead of properly playing the BG. This is why they lose 95% of them -- they do not play the way it is supposed to be played.

If you are Alliance reading this, this means YOU HAVE TO ATTACK NODES. YOU CANNOT GO ON DEFENSIVE WITH 1 OR 2 BASES OR YOU WILL LOSE. Yes it is very nice to concentrate all your firepower at stables or GM but this is why you lose.

This means YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO CAP NODES. You have to keep throwing yourself at the flags otherwise you will 100% lose, with horde 4 capping on you.

Maybe introduce a hotfix where the Alliance are not allowed to claim stable?
Funny because on Tel'Abim alliance wins almost every game. Seems more like a Nordaanar alliance issue.
Your horde plain bad or lack gear
We will see how you win with shamans running aq40 naxx gear.
Shamans are already really strong especially orc ele shamans, if you don't have the right comp to deal with them they are nearly unkillable.

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Re: Alliance not playing AB (and warsong) properly

Post by Ataika » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:11 am

Elleshar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:54 am
Ataika wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:50 am
Elleshar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:48 am


Funny because on Tel'Abim alliance wins almost every game. Seems more like a Nordaanar alliance issue.
Your horde plain bad or lack gear
We will see how you win with shamans running aq40 naxx gear.
Shamans are already really strong especially orc ele shamans, if you don't have the right comp to deal with them they are nearly unkillable.
i clearly remember how shamans perform in mc+bwl gear and its nowhere around nordanar shamans do in top gear
we had a premade yesterday with 2 shamans, till i casted 2 fears they have deleted all alliance around blacksmith except paladins who survived due to precasted bubble

paladins do not grow in strenght with gear as shamans do, so its not a surprice your low pop real alliance wins a lot

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