Survival Skill

[Torta]

Greetings!

We’re bringing back another discontinued feature of Classic World of Warcraft: the old Secondary Skill: Survival.

Visit Stranglethorn Vale and speak to S. J. Erlgadin of Nesingwary's Expedition to get your intensive training in Survival. You’ll learn:

• How to make [Dim Torch] to brighten up your night and gain +4 spirit for your party!

• How to build a simple [Fishing Boat] to catch the most tasty fish right in the middle of the lake! Fishing on the boat gives you +50 fishing bonus. Boats last 60 minutes.

• How to build a [Traveler’s Tent] to have some rest during your journey. The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside (your rested experience will increase faster).

• How to create a [Bright Campfire] for you and your fellas. Campfire give +8 spirit to you and your party.

The maximum skill level available right now is 150.
The release is planned on Friday, May 10th 2019.
Thanks to Paw for writing the quest lore.

[Kazgrim]

Awesome! These additions are great and are really appreciated :)

[Frosty]

Very interesting. Kudos, turtles! /thumbsup

[Taledar]

This is great stuff!

[Musse]

Very nice!

A general question regarding Sand of Time:
Could these topics be placed in a section of it own, or make them sticky here? Eventually, when new topics show up, these will be far down on the list, and new players might not notice the unique Sand of Times features in Turtle WoW.

[Devias]

Very nice!

A general question regarding Sand of Time:
Could these topics be placed in a section of it own, or make them sticky here? Eventually, when new topics show up, these will be far down on the list, and new players might not notice the unique Sand of Times features in Turtle WoW.

Agreed, or just stick them on top of the forum section.
Thanks staff I gonna try it!

[Laizek]

This is absolutely RP friendly, I'm glad to see this happening!

[Onyxia]

Nice stuff, guys.

[Torta]

Boats will last 40 minutes.

[Sinrek]

Why not an hour? LUL

[Torta]

Why not an hour? LUL

Because the alignment of planets Mars, Jupiter, Venus do not match the angle of waves which is keeping this boat afloat. This means that density of the water would cause major damage if the cooldown would be whatever it would be, just because.

[Paw]

Why not an hour? LUL

Because the alignment of planets Mars, Jupiter, Venus do not match the angle of waves which is keeping this boat afloat. This means that density of the water would cause major damage if the cooldown would be whatever it would be, just because.

Wrong! Every klingon in the universe knows that the alignment of plantes got nothing to do with liquid density in regard of boat safety protocol. Talking NONESENSE, Vulcan!

[Sinrek]

That reminds me to make another Twitch emotes for turtleheads - FailFish and NotLikeThis.

[Musse]

If you lit a bright campfire near (in range) of a NPC, you will turn PvP, because the NPC gets affected by the fire!

Could you fix this?

[Torta]

Thanks everyone for providing a quality and experience feedback!

Several fixes will be introduced in the next days:

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

• Bright Campfire won't trigger PvP mode.

• Traveler's Tens radius will increase from 10 yards to 15 yards.

• New, differently looking tent will also be introduced.

Some time later:

Houses / towers or other types of player's buildings will be available for temporary spawn.

[Seelenschmied]

Really? Spawnable houses and towers? Then please make it that they can't be spawned in cities. This tents are irritating enough ;) Don't need a city full of spawn houses...

[Distortedshadow]

I think being able to spawn the smaller doodads, tables, chairs, etc for RP would be great. Don't really know if I'd want to see a random tower erected.

[Pompa]

I think being able to spawn the smaller doodads, tables, chairs, etc for RP would be great. Don't really know if I'd want to see a random tower erected.

Interesting, I like the idea of spawning tables, chairs, etc.

[Deadcrow]

I wonder how many people are going to become gondola drivers for people in the stormwind. Possibly Undercity

[Skullmiser]

Can you please post in in the forum? Under the Survival post?

Add torches and other survival gear to either the trade goods stores, or general goods, or both.

[Musse]

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

Tents seems to trigger PvP also; if an NPC walk over the tent (which is quite rude), it seems to trigger PvP. I haven't verified 100% though.

[Musse]

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

Tents seems to trigger PvP also; if an NPC walk over the tent (which is quite rude), it seems to trigger PvP. I haven't verified 100% though.

Sorry wrong quote, should have been:

• Bright Campfire won't trigger PvP mode.

[Musse]

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

Tents seems to trigger PvP also; if an NPC walk over the tent (which is quite rude), it seems to trigger PvP. I haven't verified 100% though.

Sorry wrong quote, should have been:

• Bright Campfire won't trigger PvP mode.

Might have been because I had a bright campfire in the tent (which is dangerous). Sorry for the many post!

[Kizzi]

so as we figured it - 2-4 tents stack. campings make sense now.

[Walters]

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

Doesnt work. Ive tried many times.

Plus Unlit Poor Torch doesnt always give you point (on skill level 15 it already can fail on +1 point. And this thing also HAS A COOLDOWN and cookingfire requirement!!!! (and bags full of reagents)
It will take a Year to get 75 points. People only want to see the tent, we dont need these torches.

Sorry to be toxic, but this thing is just the worst.

[Pompa]

• Bright Campfire now will correctly give you +1 Survival Skill.

Doesnt work. Ive tried many times.

Plus Unlit Poor Torch doesnt always give you point (on skill level 15 it already can fail on +1 point. And this thing also HAS A COOLDOWN and cookingfire requirement!!!! (and bags full of reagents)
It will take a Year to get 75 points. People only want to see the tent, we dont need these torches.

Sorry to be toxic, but this thing is just the worst.

You are right, it wasn't giving +1 skill. It's fixed now and will be deployed in the next update.

[Walters]

It will take a Year to get 75 points

So i have lvled 75 skill on torches, bought the tent. And i have only 1 question:
WHY??? WHY there is no info in the game about such useful mechanic?? This thing can totally mitigate 0.5 hardcore decrease .... and i ve discovered it by accident ONLY ON 40 lvl while questin in STV. You could atleast mention this in server messages (instead this pvp week spam) or in every major city (or any place ppl visit a lot).

PS: And i was almost giving up on this survival skill because of the lame torch mechanic. Cant imagine how many ppl didnt level to 75 and still dont know about cheat tent

[Torta]

My poor little turtle!
Now I have added the server-wide announcement about Survival next to the annoying PvP Week spam ;)

I also suggest that you join our Discord, just to make sure you don't miss anything important: https://discord.gg/mBGxmHy

[Frosty]

My poor little turtle!

Torta is playing mom!

[Walters]

My poor little turtle!
Now I have added the server-wide announcement about Survival next to the annoying PvP Week spam ;)

I also suggest that you join our Discord, just to make sure you don't miss anything important: https://discord.gg/mBGxmHy

I can bet there is still nothing in your announcement about what that tent actually does.
Your description: The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside.
What it actually does: The tent gives you HALF of rested cap only IN FEW MINUTES, so it can be easily used/abused to gain infinite rested bonus (say hello to hardcore mode)

[Pompa]

My poor little turtle!
Now I have added the server-wide announcement about Survival next to the annoying PvP Week spam ;)

I also suggest that you join our Discord, just to make sure you don't miss anything important: https://discord.gg/mBGxmHy

I can bet there is still nothing in your announcement about what that tent actually does.
Your description: The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside.
What it actually does: The tent gives you HALF of rested cap only IN FEW MINUTES, so it can be easily used/abused to gain infinite rested bonus (say hello to hardcore mode)

"The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside." perfectly describes the behavior of the tent, no more details are needed. It has 90 minutes of CD. We are open to any constructive and polite suggestion about how to improve / balance it.

We are studying to reduce the rested gaining though, news about this will take place the next week!

[Walters]

My poor little turtle!
Now I have added the server-wide announcement about Survival next to the annoying PvP Week spam ;)

I also suggest that you join our Discord, just to make sure you don't miss anything important: https://discord.gg/mBGxmHy

I can bet there is still nothing in your announcement about what that tent actually does.
Your description: The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside.
What it actually does: The tent gives you HALF of rested cap only IN FEW MINUTES, so it can be easily used/abused to gain infinite rested bonus (say hello to hardcore mode)

"The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside." perfectly describes the behavior of the tent, no more details are needed. It has 90 minutes of CD. We are open to any constructive and polite suggestion about how to improve / balance it.

We are studying to reduce the rested gaining though, news about this will take place the next week!

By "gaining rested bonus" people usually assume being in tavern/city.
20 mins in tavern - hardly half of exp "cell"
20 mins in tent - HALF of rested cap (10+ cells)!!!
Yeah, you are right. Perfect describtion. Especially for people on hardcore.

[Pompa]

I can bet there is still nothing in your announcement about what that tent actually does.
Your description: The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside.
What it actually does: The tent gives you HALF of rested cap only IN FEW MINUTES, so it can be easily used/abused to gain infinite rested bonus (say hello to hardcore mode)

"The tent lasts 20 minutes and gives you a resting bonus while you’re inside." perfectly describes the behavior of the tent, no more details are needed. It has 90 minutes of CD. We are open to any constructive and polite suggestion about how to improve / balance it.

We are studying to reduce the rested gaining though, news about this will take place the next week!

By "gaining rested bonus" people usually assume being in tavern/city.
20 mins in tavern - hardly half of exp "cell"
20 mins in tent - HALF of rested cap (10+ cells)!!!
Yeah, you are right. Perfect describtion. Especially for people on hardcore.

As I said we are already discussing to reduce the bonus it gives. We'll think about how to describe better its behavior, thanks for your suggestions!

[Lothradis]

Not fair to Shaman and water walking. I love standing off shore and fishing. Now ANYONE can do it! My shaman votes no. My other characters think this is a great idea.

[Crinos]

Is this a new proffesion or just like fishing, cooking, etc?
Can I have this and my other 2 professions? Thanks!