Shamans Need to be tuned down somehow in PVP.

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Shamans Need to be tuned down somehow in PVP.

Post by Angelafarehart » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:49 pm

Especially Elemental shamans. its very obtuse to have an armored class a combination of the following

- no pushback on spellcasts
- insane ranged burst with insta cast cd
- very Tanky due to shield +mail capabilties
- quick heals that do way too much healing
- snares
- interupt
- Hex (cc)
- Aoe heal
- Close range survivability
- Purge everything

I think after 20 years to work with, turtle wow devs be able to understand how shamans really have no weakness in the current scene of pvp unless you outnumber them. the thought alone being a very tanky class that can also heal fast and burst faster then any class is just way too many powers not even including the utilities.

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Post by Voodoochile » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:24 pm

Angelafarehart wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:49 pm I think after 20 years to work with, turtle wow devs be able to understand how shamans really have no weakness in the current scene of pvp unless you outnumber them.
Play a warlock.

Otherwise, support this viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18390
>Futhermore, I think that Shaman should be reworked.
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"I cannot be content with a classic+ vision of Shaman that sacrifices utility & versatility for raw throughput & specialization."

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Post by Justaddwater » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:56 pm

Play a warlock.

Also.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18390

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Post by Arkanae » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:13 am

Angelafarehart wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:49 pm Especially Elemental shamans. its very obtuse to have an armored class a combination of the following

- no pushback on spellcasts
- insane ranged burst with insta cast cd
- very Tanky due to shield +mail capabilties
- quick heals that do way too much healing
- snares
- interupt
- Hex (cc)
- Aoe heal
- Close range survivability
- Purge everything

I think after 20 years to work with, turtle wow devs be able to understand how shamans really have no weakness in the current scene of pvp unless you outnumber them. the thought alone being a very tanky class that can also heal fast and burst faster then any class is just way too many powers not even including the utilities.
I stopped reading at the ''no pushbacks on spellcasts'' lmao

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Post by Bigsmerf » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:27 am

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Post by Bjorn88 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:32 am

Yet more whine from clueless players. Elemental got the single hardest, stupidest nerf in CC2.
Just tell your warlocks to focus shamans and you are golden.

Revert Electrify, reinstate Elemental Fury.
I'll agree though the possibilities with the cc2 enhancement tree is kind of wack. One melee spell hit gives you the equivalent boost of the BWL trinket.

I suggest you look at smite priest or caster druids as the classes in more urgent need of a nerf.

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Post by Cecilc » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:28 am

Waiting patiently for your Gladiator skill level PvP video with the rest of the 8 classes helplessly losing to a Shaman, 1v1

Let’s goooooooo

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Post by Konstantin19 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:28 am

Bjorn88 wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:32 am Just tell your warlocks to focus shamans and you are golden.
You have to find one

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Post by Konstantin19 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:30 am

Just wait for rated arena double/triple kara shaman combo oneshoting half of the enemy team within first 5 seconds. Only then some measures can be taken.

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Post by amanagor » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:32 am

nah, double shaman won't be viable, i see double lock being way stronger than double sham for arenas

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Post by Konstantin19 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:11 am

amanagor wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:32 am nah, double shaman won't be viable, i see double lock being way stronger than double sham for arenas
i will remember this post and gonna quote you to laugh

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Post by Moojaji » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:52 pm

At this point, anyone complaining about shaman in pvp needing some more nerf, is just a bad pvper. I'm sorry to sound cliche, but for those complaining, try shaman out in pvp, and you'll realize how much work it is.

Always been a hard class to play/master, hasn't changed in TWOW, but that's just how it always is, so all good.

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Post by Kord2998 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:57 pm

It's funny how often the people against shaman nerfs happen to have "moo" in their names

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Post by Eversongwoods » Tue Jul 01, 2025 6:21 am

people are playing paladin,priest and druid because they are op but realize they lose to shaman.. this is why people have a problem with it but honestly the balance here is no worse than actual vanilla or wotlk

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Post by Halfgeek9 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:29 am

Shamans are strong because the class they are weak to isn't played by Alliance in PvP. So they get to run amok.

Meanwhile, Alliance mass Paladins which suck against Shamans.

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Post by Moojaji » Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:19 am

Kord2998 wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:57 pm It's funny how often the people against shaman nerfs happen to have "moo" in their names
I mean Taurens are awesome, Trolls too

In retail though, definitely Zandalari

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Post by Gildark » Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:09 pm

Shamans either need their burst or tankieness nerfed, nothing in this world would convince me otherwise and you're ignorant if you truly think they don't.
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Post by amanagor » Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:10 pm

Gildark wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:09 pm Shamans either need their burst or tankieness nerfed, nothing in this world would convince me otherwise and your ignorant if you truly think otherwise.
Shamans also need their substained single target damage buffed as right now they re very bad in raids.

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Post by Gildark » Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:12 pm

amanagor wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:10 pm
Gildark wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:09 pm Shamans either need their burst or tankieness nerfed, nothing in this world would convince me otherwise and your ignorant if you truly think otherwise.
Shamans also need their substained single target damage buffed as right now they re very bad in raids.
I disagree, our ele shaman does great damage in raid. Skill issue on your part most likely.

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