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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Gantulga » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:13 pm

Things like portable bank/vendor/mailbox do have a direct impact on the economy as they allow farming without having to visit a city to unload.
I also think that TWoW went overboard with the cash shop bag sizes. Sure it's understandable for them to be better than the in-game options, but 36 slots? The best available in-game bag has 22 slots and you can only obtain one. The gap is simply too massive.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Macro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:38 am

Torta wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:01 am
Fizzler wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:15 am Please no more paid features that involve RNG/gambling from now on after since introducing the egg with random items. A friend of mine kept buying the egg for some reason. If necessary to help keep the server running at top speed, you can keep doing that type of content on the SEA servers since they tend to favor that type of content more, but we voice our concerns for the sake of the EU/NA community here.
We have no plans to introduce features such as the egg in the future. However, I find comments like "we don't like it here, go add it on SEA" to be inappropriate. Please consider that SEA is not only supporting its own staff and network infrastructure, including heavily used download CDNs, but is also covering general project development costs for the entire community of Turtle WoW. Meanwhile, EU/NA can only partially sustain itself. It's neither bad nor good, it's simply how things are at the moment.

We have some really cool things cooking in the background, which only became possible because we expanded to this region. Keep this in mind before expressing the same ideas or disdain in the future.
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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Marafado » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:51 pm

Metallica have a nice song that comes to my mind when i read this.

But tbh this are old news, since almost a year twow is a sea (asian) pirate server, even the pvp realm with less than 300 players is packed with russians and a proper china "police".

the sound is top ;)


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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Zvyrhol » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:21 pm

So apparently and unintentionally devs added P2W to the donation shop in the recent update. Guild Quarters Deed can be purchased from the donation shop and then resold to the vendor for gold in game.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Drubarrymooer » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:41 pm

Zvyrhol wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:21 pm So apparently and unintentionally devs added P2W to the donation shop in the recent update. Guild Quarters Deed can be purchased from the donation shop and then resold to the vendor for gold in game.
Wasn't it patched out and only something like a few gold (10g or something) for $100 making it basically useless? I could be wrong but that was my understanding on the matter. It's not like it was done with intention.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Zvyrhol » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:45 pm

Drubarrymooer wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:41 pm
Zvyrhol wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:21 pm So apparently and unintentionally devs added P2W to the donation shop in the recent update. Guild Quarters Deed can be purchased from the donation shop and then resold to the vendor for gold in game.
Wasn't it patched out and only something like a few gold (10g or something) for $100 making it basically useless? I could be wrong but that was my understanding on the matter. It's not like it was done with intention.
I don't know, I haven't tried.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by FrankFankledank » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:55 pm

A mobile stable keeper is a substantial mechanical advantage for Hunters. Being able to switch to an optimal pet for each encounter is huge in both PvP and PvE, you can freely go from Cat to Cobra before Ossirian or Chromaggus, or hotswap to your Shadow Resist-talented Broken Tooth when a Warlock is coming your way.

Average price of shop items is also quite a bit up, a full Slow & Steady run to 60 (200 turtle coins) used to cover at least any single item in the shop, then the premium cosmetics came like the TBC Engineering flying machine for as much as a spectral tiger (???), now you have 200+ coins required for basic things like a 4th stable slot (which, by the way, was advertised as part of the CC2 changes for Hunters).

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Post by Eversongwoods » Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:09 pm

they should put a alchemy table on the shop for people wanting to make flasks and not have to go way out of their way

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Steakhouse » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:35 pm

FrankFankledank wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:55 pm A mobile stable keeper is a substantial mechanical advantage for Hunters. Being able to switch to an optimal pet for each encounter is huge in both PvP and PvE, you can freely go from Cat to Cobra before Ossirian or Chromaggus, or hotswap to your Shadow Resist-talented Broken Tooth when a Warlock is coming your way.

Average price of shop items is also quite a bit up, a full Slow & Steady run to 60 (200 turtle coins) used to cover at least any single item in the shop, then the premium cosmetics came like the TBC Engineering flying machine for as much as a spectral tiger (???), now you have 200+ coins required for basic things like a 4th stable slot (which, by the way, was advertised as part of the CC2 changes for Hunters).
Portable stable master should def have a long cast, be unusable in combat, and not be usable in any instances (dungeon, raid, pvp)
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Post by Medicco » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:17 am

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Post by Mayson » Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm

T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.

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Post by Frantsel » Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am

Mayson wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.
What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Drubarrymooer » Thu May 01, 2025 1:51 am

Frantsel wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am
Mayson wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.
What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.
If you know or suspect someone of doing that, report them. That shouldn't be the case. Might want to put it in the bug tracker as well.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Bittermens » Thu May 01, 2025 2:07 am

Drubarrymooer wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:19 am There is no p2w. Even tmogs need to be obtained first. The pets and mounts you buy provide no extra bonuses. All bags scale pretty linear in price on the ah.
the only stupidity over tmog in this server is the shit ass fashion coins when gold would be a good way to sink in, and those used to buy tmog sets once in a while like ascension does with the trial stuff.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Mayson » Thu May 01, 2025 7:56 am

Frantsel wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am
Mayson wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.
What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.
In game with thousands over thousands of items and abilities, you are focusing on one single item that happens to be early raid gear, which you're going to stash in the follow-up raids regardless.

You see how ridiculous that is, yes?

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Cecilc » Thu May 01, 2025 10:59 am

Mayson wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 7:56 am
Frantsel wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am
Mayson wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.
What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.
In game with thousands over thousands of items and abilities, you are focusing on one single item that happens to be early raid gear, which you're going to stash in the follow-up raids regardless.

You see how ridiculous that is, yes?
Imagine calling that trinket p2w turtle_tongue_head

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Frantsel » Sat May 10, 2025 1:11 am

Cecilc wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 10:59 am
Mayson wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 7:56 am
Frantsel wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am

What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.
In game with thousands over thousands of items and abilities, you are focusing on one single item that happens to be early raid gear, which you're going to stash in the follow-up raids regardless.

You see how ridiculous that is, yes?
Imagine calling that trinket p2w turtle_tongue_head
Imagine being so stupid not able to realize that this was one example. The same thing works for Nef head and prob more items.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Frantsel » Sat May 10, 2025 1:12 am

Mayson wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 7:56 am
Frantsel wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 1:34 am
Mayson wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:58 pm T-WoW is about 10% Pay2Win. There is definitely some advantage to getting out your bag. BUT. It's small enough to not matter. AND. Most of the time you just want that shiny new skin anyway.
What about raceswap and grabbing 2x onyhead trinket or neck + trinket?

Imo thats p2w 100%.
In game with thousands over thousands of items and abilities, you are focusing on one single item that happens to be early raid gear, which you're going to stash in the follow-up raids regardless.

You see how ridiculous that is, yes?
Works for other items too: Nef head for example.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by FrankFankledank » Sat May 10, 2025 5:07 pm

That's cool and all but Nef's quest rewards are unique besides the off-hand which can't be dual wielded for clear enough reasons, have no real synergy with each other to warrant wearing multiple, and can already be switched between freely at the Ratchet quest reward swapper. Same with C'thun's turn-in ring unless you're a really hurting healer who doesn't mind wearing a spell hit ring.

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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Sylveria » Sat May 10, 2025 8:40 pm

^ont top of that.. I hardly believe that having 2 of nefs rewards is so utterly broken.. If it's even possible, idk didnt try.
But even If.. If the TWoW Team would notice such behaviour, i'm Sure they're quick To restrict that in some Form, Just Like they're quick To respond on Other exploitive behaviour.
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Re: P2W in Turtle WoW

Post by Zvyrhol » Sun May 11, 2025 9:31 am

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