What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

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What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Dracarusggotham » Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:57 am

Yes, I mean that set that the final bosses of Stratholme, UBRS and Scholo drop.
Let me explain, I've been doing Stratholme more than 80 times already, and I'm not the only one, and the only stupid thing that drops me is the Shaman, Priest or Druid set, I've rarely seen any other 0.5 armor pieces drop other than those.

What the hell is going on with that? According to the DB everyone has an 11% chance of dropping, why the hell do only those 3 drop?
It seems unfair to me, and the set isn't that great for me to be having so much trouble finishing it, it's the lowest set of all. angry_turtle

I've even played with groups that run the dungeon several times in a row and IN NO RUN have I ever dropped the Legplates of Valor, it's always the Kilt of Elements, or the Druid or Priest legs. It's almost a meme the stupid amount of times in a row that the same thing drops, it seems stupid and illogical to me.

In my opinion, the difficult thing should be to improve the set, not complete it.

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Mayson » Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:52 am

Don't worry about it, they drop the Tank and DPS sets for healing players to the other groups to even it out. ;)

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Dracarusggotham » Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:07 am

Mayson wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:52 am Don't worry about it, they drop the Tank and DPS sets for healing players to the other groups to even it out. ;)
82 damn runs and a ninja loot for Rivendare to drop my Legplates...

What the hell...

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Post by Steakhouse » Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:44 pm

The classic loot system is way worse than the retail one imo and this is a good example of it malfunctioning
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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Turboman » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:21 am

Dracarusggotham wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:07 am
Mayson wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:52 am Don't worry about it, they drop the Tank and DPS sets for healing players to the other groups to even it out. ;)
82 damn runs and a ninja loot for Rivendare to drop my Legplates...

What the hell...
If you're a tank, put masterlooter on the last boss, don't forget to warn others about it before you start the dungeon. That's how i've got my set.

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Reploidrocsa » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:56 am

Mayson wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:52 am Don't worry about it, they drop the Tank and DPS sets for healing players to the other groups to even it out. ;)
This.

It always drops the piece you don't want

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Zulnam » Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:22 pm

There's always one item from the set that refuses to drop. I did 10 scholo runs without seeing my helm drop until i gave up.

dungeon sets are that great anyway, and now with the alternative tier sets you can easily get T1 and switch it to your spec.

It's not difficult getting it, just tedious.

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Post by Cheruscan » Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:29 pm

RNGesus is a fickle god, an entity of chaos really

Sometimes you'll see somebody go from fresh 60 to near BiS in under 3 months

other times you'll hear stories of people waiting for major upgrades for months

most people are sitting somewhere inbetween those extremes

Just be patient

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by vktp » Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:58 am

Hello!
I 100% agree with author, did many UBRS runs, no valor or paladin chests. Usually Devout Robe or Magister's Robe.
AtlasLoot shows Valor items at the end of list, my be this matters.
Is there any sourcecode to check algorithm on how wow selects items to drop?
Also could you make DB query to see how many people got [Devout Robe] or subsequent [Virtuous Robe]
VS
[Breastplate of Valor] and subsequent [Breastplate of Heroism]
to see is there any disbalance or not.

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Akos1896 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:08 pm

Maybe could be a token like T2,5 and T3 so that each drop is good for 3 classes.

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Atreidon » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:01 pm

The t0.5 is endgame for people uninterested in raiding content. While with the exception of maybe rogue t0.5 the raiding population doesnt want/need them.

So all you do is reduce the time people in endgame can spend doing dungeons before there is nothing more to do.

The people who need more than 30 runs for a given piece are statistical outliers. And while it sucks to be them, im not sure the system needs fixing

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Xudo » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:04 pm

vktp wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:58 am Is there any sourcecode to check algorithm on how wow selects items to drop?
I believe that loot distribution is mostly inherited from vMangos https://github.com/vmangos/core/blob/de ... ootMgr.cpp
There might be some differences regarding shaman/paladin raid drops. In Vanilla paladin stuff is invisible for horde and vise-versa.
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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Madmane » Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:25 pm

Turboman wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:21 am
If you're a tank, put masterlooter on the last boss, don't forget to warn others about it before you start the dungeon. That's how i've got my set.
People must be terribly desperate for runs to let this happen.

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Re: What the hell is the drop rate of the dungeon set?

Post by Baek » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:39 am

if someone tried to implement on the server the possibility to have a choice of 2-3 things to increase the drop from bosses, but only for the "blue" category

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