Alternative Tier Sets

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets & Midpatch Itemization Changes

Post by Manolothegreat » Sun May 12, 2024 7:57 pm

Amazing job, thanks

Do you have an estimated release date?
PRAISE THE SUN \[T]/

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets & Midpatch Itemization Changes

Post by Carroyo92 » Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:28 pm

please give us a release date.

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Post by Reploidrocsa » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:39 pm

Soon™

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Post by Grizb37 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:53 pm

Carroyo92 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:28 pm please give us a release date.
I'd guess around February 2025

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets & Midpatch Itemization Changes

Post by Elisleris » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:46 pm

Good evening. I have 3 tokens of tier 2.5. If I exchange them to tier 2.5 armor pieces now, will I be able to trade these pieces for alternative tier 2.5 versions in the future or will I need tokens for exchange?

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets & Midpatch Itemization Changes

Post by Frantsel » Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:37 pm

Would it be possible to adjust the AV rings too? Especially the caster one. Its pretty bad.

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Post by Likaleo » Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:09 am

Elisleris wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:46 pm Good evening. I have 3 tokens of tier 2.5. If I exchange them to tier 2.5 armor pieces now, will I be able to trade these pieces for alternative tier 2.5 versions in the future or will I need tokens for exchange?
Very first post anwsers your question if you just read it

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets & Midpatch Itemization Changes

Post by Elleshar » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:06 pm

Please add spell dmg to the healing tier sets, doesn't have to be half like done with the T2 sets could be 1/3 or 1/4 and would still be fine.

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Yggd » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:15 am

So looking into this last update that was done Im not sure when.

Does this mean for example no Elemental tier3 set for shamen? No enhancement set whatsoever for dps (only 2.5 for tanking)?

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Sholozavr » Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:15 am

Dragunovi wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:51 pm
  • Druid: Feral Combat (Tier 1, 2.5 and 3.5 are Cat Form DPS focused while Tier 2 and 3 are Bear Form Tanking focused), Balance (Legacy Tier 2.5 is the new Balance set while there is a new Restoration set for Tier 2.5), Restoration (Tier 2.5 Only)
Greetings! Could you please clarify whether or not each hybrid specialization is receiving a separate set starting from T1 and through T3.5. The way it's now put in your original post can be interpreted in different ways, for druids for example:

T1: Balance(legacy) + Feral DPS
T2: Restoration(legacy) + Feral Tank
T2.5: Balance(legacy reworked) + Feral DPS + Restoration
T3: Restoration(legacy) + Feral Tank
T3.5: Feral DPS

Could you please comment on this specific example, is my logic correct, or am I completely wrong and there will be for example T3 and T3.5 for Balance?

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Post by Elisleris » Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:04 am

Dragunovi wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:51 pm
  • Druid: Feral Combat (Tier 1, 2.5 and 3.5 are Cat Form DPS focused while Tier 2 and 3 are Bear Form Tanking focused), Balance (Legacy Tier 2.5 is the new Balance set while there is a new Restoration set for Tier 2.5), Restoration (Tier 2.5 Only)
  • Shaman: Enhancement (Tier 2.5 is specialized for tanking builds), Elemental (Legacy Tier 2 and 2.5 are the new Elemental sets while there are new Restoration sets for Tier 2 and 2.5.
  • Paladin: Retribution, Protection, Holy (Tier 2.5 now has a new item set while Tier 1 and 2 have been re-itemized to work better for Holy Paladins as the specializations using them previously now have new alternative tier sets.)
Sholozavr wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:15 am Could you please comment on this specific example, is my logic correct, or am I completely wrong and there will be for example T3 and T3.5 for Balance?
Yggd wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:15 am So looking into this last update that was done Im not sure when.

Does this mean for example no Elemental tier3 set for shamen? No enhancement set whatsoever for dps (only 2.5 for tanking)?
I undestand that in following way:
Druid:
Feral DPS: new T1 + T2,5 + T3,5
Feral Tank: new T2 + T3
Balance: T1(new) + T2(new) + T2,5(legacy) + T3(new) + T3,5(new)
Restoration: T1(legacy) + T2 (legacy) + T2,5(new) + T3(legacy) + T3,5(new)

Shaman:
Elemental: T1(new) + T2(legacy) + T2,5(legacy) + T3(new) + T3,5(new)
Enhancement: T1(new) + T2(new) + T2,5(new for tank) + T3(new) + T3,5(new)
Restoration: T1(legacy) + T2(new) + T2,5(new) + T3(legacy) + T3,5(new)

Paladin:
Retribution: T1(new) + T2(new) + T2,5(new) + T3(legacy) + T3,5(new)
Protection: T1(new) + T2(new) + T2,5(new) + T3(new) + T3,5(new)
Holy : T1(legacy changed) + T2(legacy changed) + T2,5(new) + T3(legacy) + T3,5(new)
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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Noephix » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:12 pm

Dragunovi wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:51 pm
  • Druid: Feral Combat (Tier 1, 2.5 and 3.5 are Cat Form DPS focused while Tier 2 and 3 are Bear Form Tanking focused), Balance (Legacy Tier 2.5 is the new Balance set while there is a new Restoration set for Tier 2.5), Restoration (Tier 2.5 Only)
Feral cat doesn't need t2.5 because AQ40 already has a ton of feral gear currently. What cat needs is some decent t3 items, cause Naxx for cat only has 4 items - trinket, ring, weapon, leggings.

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Post by Tsuisama » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:53 am

Dragunovi wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:51 pm
  • Legacy Warlock and Hunter sets have had their set bonuses updated to accomodate for Fire Destruction and Survival specializations and their abilities.
The following specializations will get new alternative tier sets:
  • Warlock: Affliction
Hope the Affliction set will benefit SM Ruin (30-0-21) build, cause either Fire Destruction (0-11-40) or Affliction (40-11-0) build will use Shadow Bolt and provide 15% shadow damage bonus from Improved Shadow Bolt.

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Dalijon » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:52 pm

Does this mean that there is no alternative 3.0 balance set? They reworked the legacy 2.5 for balance, and that's it? It's a mediocre 5 piece set, and we have to mix 'n' match after that?

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Post by Elisleris » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:36 pm

Dalijon wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:52 pm Does this mean that there is no alternative 3.0 balance set? They reworked the legacy 2.5 for balance, and that's it? It's a mediocre 5 piece set, and we have to mix 'n' match after that?
That means you will have new alt T1 + T2 + T3 and old legacy T2.5 for Balance spec

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Mond3go » Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:27 am

Where do you swap pieces. They were kind and assumed I wanted the healing set because I was currently speccd healer?but I don't want the healing gear...

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Atreidon » Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:06 am

You can exchange t1&t2 tokens at the blackrock.

Those alt versions of T1, T2 as well as the
T2.5 & T3 pieces are quest rewards. Like other questrewards, they can now be swapped at a npc in Ratchet.

Do beware, the Ratchet NPC is ruthless and will rip them off of your character without a second confirmation - replacing a potentially enchanted piece of gear with a new unenchanted one.

Also T1 &T2 tokens can not be turned back into their original form once traded. You will have to farm the original piece again

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Post by Mond3go » Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:10 am

Atreidon wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:06 am You can exchange t1&t2 tokens at the blackrock.

Those alt versions of T1, T2 as well as the
T2.5 & T3 pieces are quest rewards. Like other questrewards, they can now be swapped at a npc in Ratchet.

Do beware, the Ratchet NPC is ruthless and will rip them off of your character without a second confirmation - replacing a potentially enchanted piece of gear with a new unenchanted one.

Also T1 &T2 tokens can not be turned back into their original form once traded. You will have to farm the original piece again
Thank you!

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by aq72 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:10 pm

Does this swap support also apply to tier 0.5? Possibly through the quest reward swapper?

Thanks.

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Post by Elisleris » Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:16 pm

aq72 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:10 pm Does this swap support also apply to tier 0.5? Possibly through the quest reward swapper?

Thanks.
There are no alt set for tier 0.5.
As well , no alt sets for ZG tier and AQ20 tier

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Jaffcover » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:15 am

We don't need so much intelligence for T1,T2.5 Feral DPS, that's a waste

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Elisleris » Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:15 am

Jaffcover wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:15 am We don't need so much intelligence for T1,T2.5 Feral DPS, that's a waste
Have you seen how much spirits there are on Fury Warrior and Retri/Prot Pala Tier sets?

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Jaffcover » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:24 am

Elisleris wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:15 am
Jaffcover wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:15 am We don't need so much intelligence for T1,T2.5 Feral DPS, that's a waste
Have you seen how much spirits there are on Fury Warrior and Retri/Prot Pala Tier sets?
Not yet, but do all these sets has any part with 10-20+ intelligence and without stam as melee dps? Feral druid yes

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Re: Alternative Tier Sets

Post by Elisleris » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:32 am

Jaffcover wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:24 am
Elisleris wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:15 am
Jaffcover wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:15 am We don't need so much intelligence for T1,T2.5 Feral DPS, that's a waste
Have you seen how much spirits there are on Fury Warrior and Retri/Prot Pala Tier sets?
Not yet, but do all these sets has any part with 10-20+ intelligence and without stam as melee dps? Feral druid yes
Yes, T2 and T3 tier sets for Pala have parts with 20+ intellect and without stamina as melee dps.

Another example, T2.5 set for tanking Pala have more intellect than stamina

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