NEETs: A Private Server Plague

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NEETs: A Private Server Plague

Post by Manletow » Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:00 am

Its great we can play Vanilla WoW for free via Private Servers
... but unfortunately when there is no subscription fee -- that attracts deadbeat no lifers (AKA NEETs)
NEET's are generally moms basement dwellers who do not work or go to school
(some rare NEET cases are crippled or something like that -- they are excluded from my scorn)

So they can play 24/7 -- acquire the full BiS gear
Then terrorize BG's 24/7 (often via premades)

They dont even need Rank 14 gear (Their Naxx gear is better)
They do it cuz 'why not? infinite free time to waste'

Also they can farm/camp resources/rare NPC's endlessly.

I'm just ranting/venting.
But I suppose if theres a point --
its to change the Ranking System
... but that wouldn't really address this issue per-se

So my bemoaning is impotent. Curses!
Frost Mage is overpowered in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Druid is a bad class. This is intended and wise design.

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Post by Gantulga » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:56 pm

Getting brain hemorrhages when reading your posts seems to be a common occurrence.

Also it takes 2-4 hours a week to clear Naxx and 1 hour of farming for consumables which is as casual as it gets.
You waste more time crying about everything instead of getting gud.

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Post by Aleksxz » Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:35 pm

Is this guy complaining about people playing the game as they want ? Grouping with friends ? Asking help to fill up a premade ?

PvP is what it is for decades (they even made it easier). Now that you saw, just don't queue up, move on, time to find another occupation, this is not for you.

I just can't believe that we still have people complaining about this, 20 years later.

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Post by Blackduck3 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:57 pm

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Post by Redmagejoe » Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:03 pm

Why is this guy still allowed to post on these forums? At this point I'm convinced he's deliberately shitposting. Even his signature reads like a bad joke.

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Post by Eversongwoods » Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:20 pm

Manletow is right and maybe if twow wasn't so rigged to favor these NEETs they would get more donation money.

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Post by Zulnam » Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:27 pm

the saying "there is always someone better than you" is nowhere more visible than in multiplayer games. Like you said, there are some individuals with an abundancy of free time who just farm away day and night.

How they have this much time to begin with (lack of responsibilities, living off parent's wealth or social benefits etc.) is irelevant.

The only way to solve this is to stop playing multiplayer games or, going down the communist path, implement a curfew so that the game is only playable for 4-6 hours a day.

Honestly at this point i'm fine with either.

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Post by Nett » Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:37 pm

Glad I only have one E, otherwise I would suspect some kind of prejudice towards me.

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Post by Daedalus007 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:59 am

Another terrible Manletow thread. Nothing to see here, lmao.

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Post by Allwynd01 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:04 am

Is this what people call "projecting"?

Where you complain about something and blame it on others, but in reality it describes you.

From what I read, the OP is annoyed with people playing too much, but his behavior feels like someone who's terminally online and the online world is his only world.

OP, I suggest you step back and find some new hobbies or try to approach the game in a different way. I used to play MMORPGs a lot more, but after making some changes in my life, I barely find the enthusiasm to play games anymore. I log into Turtle WoW almost every day, but about 20 minutes later, I don't have the drive to play anymore even though I still think this is one of the best games and I want to play it still, just can't like I used to.

If you can't find enjoyment in the game, just find something else to do, insulting others and trying them to feel bad because you feel bad is not healthy. I personally enjoy leveling in the game the most - questing, traveling the world, I've done it hundreds of times and I still enjoy doing it, albeit solo is kind of lonely, I can still find some enjoyment in the game and other people aren't ruining it for me.

Try to find other ways to play the game and have fun or move on, unless you don't realize, you are acting cynical and unhinged and it's a behavior that needs help you can't get from other WoW players who most likely are also broken people who carry their mental baggage, I for one feel like that about myself.

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Post by Caos » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:23 am

Don't know why people are so salty, it was kind a fun reading this.
Unfortunatelly the only way to address this issue is reducing the powercreep (item level diference) between all end game gear. Making the game more horizontal, not completely horizontal because it will probably be boring.
The devs though seem to be going through the opposite path.
Still, "NEET's" will have the skill advantage as even in games like LOL where you start every match from 0 there are tryhard issues.

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Post by Eversongwoods » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:15 pm

In LOL everyone is on a level playing field. These people here don't have a skill advantage, i am sure of that much but they have a gear advantage.

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Post by Gantulga » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:25 pm

Allwynd01 wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:04 am Is this what people call "projecting"?

Where you complain about something and blame it on others, but in reality it describes you.
He sounds like one of those self-proclaimed "casuals" who actually spend 24/7 playing but never progress anywhere and never learn how to play. Most they'll do is complain about everybody else.

Like I said before, raiding is incredibly casual friendly here and in fact most raiding groups are full of dads and moms with fulltime jobs.

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Post by Manletow » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:28 pm

Caos wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:23 am Don't know why people are so salty
...because they are triggered NEETs my dude
Allwynd01 wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:04 am projecting

From what I read, the OP is annoyed with people playing too much

I can still find some enjoyment in the game and other people aren't ruining it for me.
I'm currently working 2 jobs my friend. lol
but sure -- most people have flirted with NEETdom for at least some time
Usually they pull out of it / enter the normal functioning adult world eventually

I don't mind no lifers as long as they dont effect others
They can farm Naxx forever as its a closed instance

I dont like when no lifers camp valuable rare NPC for example
As this restricts others fun --

Just like I hate how they oppress PVP Battlegrounds
Despite not even benefiting from the rewards
They do it to clown on normie/casual players who dont have endless free time

Did you even read my thread? Kek
Frost Mage is overpowered in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Druid is a bad class. This is intended and wise design.

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Post by Darktifa » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:37 pm

Manletow wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:28 pm
I'm currently working 2 jobs my friend. lol
And then a big black dragon came and burned down the village
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE END ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Czasku wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:31 pm After Reading Turtle WoW's forum i understood why Blizzard stopped responding on their own forum topics.

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Post by Cabum » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:42 pm

Doesn’t matter how many hours of wow you play per day, you can only do naxx once a week.
Now tell us, where did the pala touch you?

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Post by Sylveria » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:00 pm

Quick question: isn't this topic and the Initial Post of this topic kinda against Turtle Rules?
"Encourage racism, extremism, sexism, violence, doxxing, hate speech of any kind toward certain groups of people."
Well i'd consider calling "Neets" (a certain group of people) a "plague" a Kind of hate speech.

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Post by Zvyrhol » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:54 pm

Sylveria wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:00 pm Quick question: isn't this topic and the Initial Post of this topic kinda against Turtle Rules?
"Encourage racism, extremism, sexism, violence, doxxing, hate speech of any kind toward certain groups of people."
Well i'd consider calling "Neets" (a certain group of people) a "plague" a Kind of hate speech.
xD
OP made comical topic, at least I think it was intended as a joke. If it's a joke it can't be hate speech.

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Post by Sylveria » Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:02 am

Zvyrhol wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:54 pm
Sylveria wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:00 pm Quick question: isn't this topic and the Initial Post of this topic kinda against Turtle Rules?
"Encourage racism, extremism, sexism, violence, doxxing, hate speech of any kind toward certain groups of people."
Well i'd consider calling "Neets" (a certain group of people) a "plague" a Kind of hate speech.
xD
OP made comical topic, at least I think it was intended as a joke. If it's a joke it can't be hate speech.
That's Up for Interpretation. I try to See it objectivly. :p

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Post by Skeetul77 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:26 am

Honestly, he has a point.

>Join any BG while leveling
>Quickly realize you're facing people who
-Mostly do premades vs levelers in greens
-Only use the most powerful spec for their class at this bracket
-Refuse to do anything but farm you or quickly end the BG with the safest of strategies
-Use absurd amounts of consumables
-Are all engineers because they're twinks and not leveling characters
-Have theory crafted characters that make twinks from back in the day look like hot garbage

The attitude of "I'm winning therefor I'm right" is honestly really dumb at a certain point because eventually no one wants to deal with people that go this hard. It's down stream of the idea that rules multiplayer games; "my fun > your fun". If you want the community to be healthy, you need to ease off and remember that you can only skin a sheep once, but you can shear it for life.

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Post by Manletow » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:12 am

Zvyrhol wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:54 pm
Sylveria wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:00 pm i'd consider calling "Neets" (a certain group of people) a "plague" a Kind of hate speech.
OP made comical topic, at least I think it was intended as a joke. If it's a joke it can't be hate speech.
nah, it aint a joke man. i really do hate NEETs -- at least the ones who actively make the game less fun for normal people with lives/jobs (see original post for examples of problematic/griefing behavior)

as for that other clown -- NEETs are not a 'protected class' of people. imbecile.
NEET's choose to be NEET's.
They choose to leech off others rather than contributute to society.
They ain't victims. If anything they inherently victimize others with their parasitism.
Zulnam wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:27 pm implement a curfew so that the game is only playable for 6 hours a day.
yes. I would support this.
they actually did something similar when the server population exploded (chinese players influx)
did a lock-out system where people had to 'wait to enter the game'

P.S. To those nitwits saying 'you can do Naxx in 2 hours bro" -- even getting into Naxx is quite a time investment.
attaining full BiS (competing with 39 other players) takes even longer
the dishonest cope is cringe

anyway its besides the point -- i specifically referred to players who are in BG's 24 hours a day -- 7 days a week
or ones who stay online all day/night to camp NPCs and such
Frost Mage is overpowered in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Druid is a bad class. This is intended and wise design.

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Post by Venaven » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:45 pm

Manletow wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:12 am
Zvyrhol wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:54 pm
Sylveria wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:00 pm i'd consider calling "Neets" (a certain group of people) a "plague" a Kind of hate speech.
OP made comical topic, at least I think it was intended as a joke. If it's a joke it can't be hate speech.
nah, it aint a joke man. i really do hate NEETs -- at least the ones who actively make the game less fun for normal people with lives/jobs (see original post for examples of problematic/griefing behavior)

as for that other clown -- NEETs are not a 'protected class' of people. imbecile.
NEET's choose to be NEET's.
They choose to leech off others rather than contributute to society.
They ain't victims. If anything they inherently victimize others with their parasitism.
Zulnam wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 10:27 pm implement a curfew so that the game is only playable for 6 hours a day.
yes. I would support this.
they actually did something similar when the server population exploded (chinese players influx)
did a lock-out system where people had to 'wait to enter the game'

P.S. To those nitwits saying 'you can do Naxx in 2 hours bro" -- even getting into Naxx is quite a time investment.
attaining full BiS (competing with 39 other players) takes even longer
the dishonest cope is cringe

anyway its besides the point -- i specifically referred to players who are in BG's 24 hours a day -- 7 days a week
or ones who stay online all day/night to camp NPCs and such
I know you're probably just a troll or whatever, but you said in your original post that you make exceptions for NEETs if they are 'legitimately' disabled. The class of people you're describing does definitely exist, but I'd argue that it's the minority. Most NEETs ARE disabled and their 'choice' isn't really a willful one. Most NEETs either have physical disabilities or they are profoundly mentally ill, which can lead to physical/somatic ailments. If you truly know what the depths of mental illness can do to people, then you'll understand that it's a disability in some contexts as well. But I'd assume your approach to mental illness is bootstraps, etc. The fuller picture is much more complicated than that. You are right that people can grow and join the adult world eventually, and that they should, but the process isn't always about 'bootstraps'/'manning up', it's something which has to be handled relative to the individual. Directing your hatred to people who are in the midst of a process of overcoming just makes no sense. You've invented a caricature in your head which reductively simplifies the dynamic here and serves as a fantasy for your resentment.
If you were truly happy with the jobs you're working, why should you care if others aren't working? "They leech blah blah blah" yes, and? This isn't relevant to your happiness if you're working in a fulfilling context. It sounds like what's really going on here is that you're miserable over your work.

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Post by Turtlesister » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:14 am

Manletow wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:00 am Its great we can play Vanilla WoW for free via Private Servers
... but unfortunately when there is no subscription fee -- that attracts deadbeat no lifers (AKA NEETs)
NEET's are generally moms basement dwellers who do not work or go to school
(some rare NEET cases are crippled or something like that -- they are excluded from my scorn)

So they can play 24/7 -- acquire the full BiS gear
Then terrorize BG's 24/7 (often via premades)

They dont even need Rank 14 gear (Their Naxx gear is better)
They do it cuz 'why not? infinite free time to waste'

Also they can farm/camp resources/rare NPC's endlessly.

I'm just ranting/venting.
But I suppose if theres a point --
its to change the Ranking System
... but that wouldn't really address this issue per-se

So my bemoaning is impotent. Curses!
Seems like a skill issue to me, git gud? no irony or trolling, get good honestly. improve your skills instead of crying.

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