Patch 1.17.0 — Beyond the Greymane Wall

[Akalix]

Do we have an ETA?

Coming SoonTM

[Kashchei]

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[R4wdigga]

Pleeeeeease, make Shamans be able to dual-wield!

[Ramoneknot]

Six months...

[Bittermens]

Pleeeeeease, make Shamans be able to dual-wield!

They wont because the blithering idiots thinks thunderhead is "better"

Also Lionheart Helm and all crafted items will be nerfed to oblivion, and it will bring poopsock mentality in full force.

[Shantowow]

Any approximate news about patch 1.16.6 release? :)
Please :P

[Ninetyone]

Pleeeeeease, make Shamans be able to dual-wield!

They wont because the blithering idiots thinks thunderhead is "better"

Also Lionheart Helm and all crafted items will be nerfed to oblivion, and it will bring poopsock mentality in full force.

DONT NERF LIONHEART!!!

[Bittermens]

Pleeeeeease, make Shamans be able to dual-wield!

They wont because the blithering idiots thinks thunderhead is "better"

Also Lionheart Helm and all crafted items will be nerfed to oblivion, and it will bring poopsock mentality in full force.

DONT NERF LIONHEART!!!

They will because crafted itemslasting into naxx is "Le bad"
when they added overpowered shit to be crafted to world bosses
said world bosses who are camped by the old guilds like a Mafia

[Imonobor]

The amount of salty whining here is unbearable. Please try to respect the developers or at least try not to be as toxic to them. They have created the server you play on, and judging from the population numbers, they have done a damn good job of it. Have some faith in their design choices and stop whining.

[Jammyxx]

Wouldn't it make more sense to be 1.17.0 as this seems to be quite a major update with new raids and content?

[Bigsmerf]

fIx PRotEcTioN pALaDins! MRRRRRRRRR! bruh demanding shit is definitely the way to get it fixed. lol

What else would you expect a guy to do? Stay silent and HOPE he gets a buff?

I've no idea what you're smoking, but...






















I want some...

[Klen]

Will it be ever released ? I mean 6 months of teasing isn't teasing anymore ...

[Whalemilk]

Will it be ever released ? I mean 6 months of teasing isn't teasing anymore ...

They just released a video trailer on gilneas… I bet it’s gunna be another while

[Bayanni]

The hype sustains me

[Isvya]

Hyjal teaser next so prob 3-4 months more.

[Naonak1945]

Tauren Priest sounds interesting. So does a Human Hunter

[Oothe]

I would unironically, willingly push a button to have my pre-existing character "humbled" back down to minimum level to level all over again, purely so they could start this new challenge. One thing I feel sad about is how non-HC challenges need to be done simultaneously in order to have the chance for the same rewards on the same character, though I do feel that also gives more prestige to those that do. Even if I haven't done any of the other challenges on a character, it'd be nice to "humble" myself and start all over instead of making an identical character.

[Jammyxx]

I would unironically, willingly push a button to have my pre-existing character "humbled" back down to minimum level to level all over again, purely so they could start this new challenge. One thing I feel sad about is how non-HC challenges need to be done simultaneously in order to have the chance for the same rewards on the same character, though I do feel that also gives more prestige to those that do. Even if I haven't done any of the other challenges on a character, it'd be nice to "humble" myself and start all over instead of making an identical character.

Yeah as a completionist that's done all the challenges on one character I'm sad now I can't get this new vagrant one. Would be a cool idea if you could level a new character with the challenges and at the end you got an account bound item with that class restriction on it that said 'use: grants The Wanderer title" this way you could level an identical character then send the token to your main for the title.

[Oothe]

Yeah. Because I thought more on how people might exploit being able to rewind, and either quests being able to reset could be extremely manipulated or quests not being able to reset would cause lots of issues. And nevermind quested gear that has no item level requirement. It'd require too much oversight to be viable. Haha

[Manateufel]

Now I got more questions.....

How can Humans be hunters? They already can be Warrior, Paladin, Rogue, Priest, Mage and Warlock? I thought the 1.12 Client was limited to 6 classes?

We're raising the limit in the upcoming patch, to display more than six buttons on a character creation screen.

This is big news, omg!

[Samsara]

I'm hyped for the new challenge and world exploration titles! When is this patch coming out with the new challenge and do I have to update manually? I think since you ask for opinions on the new challenge, that you should still let players pick up the items in order to sell them at AH (if they're not HC too). I also think that it should give an even better title if you pair it with HC. And what's that about bloodthirsty, how does one get it?

[Samsara]

I would unironically, willingly push a button to have my pre-existing character "humbled" back down to minimum level to level all over again, purely so they could start this new challenge. One thing I feel sad about is how non-HC challenges need to be done simultaneously in order to have the chance for the same rewards on the same character, though I do feel that also gives more prestige to those that do. Even if I haven't done any of the other challenges on a character, it'd be nice to "humble" myself and start all over instead of making an identical character.

Yeah as a completionist that's done all the challenges on one character I'm sad now I can't get this new vagrant one. Would be a cool idea if you could level a new character with the challenges and at the end you got an account bound item with that class restriction on it that said 'use: grants The Wanderer title" this way you could level an identical character then send the token to your main for the title.

I strongly disagree with that you need to earn it with specific character otherwise it loses its purpose. Titles belong to the characters that display them, you are free to have more than 1 main character. That being said, I think that when you speak to the HC quest giver, it should offer you to restart back to level 1, but your character is fully reset, titles, bank, bags, etc. It's a bit annoying to have to delete character and make it again if you forgot to turn it on, leveled a few levels, and realize you forgot HC. Streamlining the character reset would be beneficial for UX. But it should certainly not maintain all the previous achievements and titles.

[Samsara]

Now all I want for Turtle WoW to be perfect is more haircuts and more hair colors. I don't mean like 1 or 3 new colors and 1 or 2 haircuts per race. At least 5-10 new haircuts for each race, and at least a dozen or two dozen new colors, ideal would be RGB color picker within brightness and saturation boundaries to prevent neon bright or full black no shine immersion breaking haircuts. And new faces wouldn't be bad either. Hell, a height slider would be amazing! Something that would allow to change size 1/3 from the original race's size. So if your original size is 1, you could slide between 0.77 and 1.33. Then gnomes would be like 0.5 so from 0.34 to 0.66, and trolls would be like 1.25 so from 0.83 to 1.67.

[Bloodline1x9]

Can someone explain what is the point of making a hunter human if he doesn't have any bonuses for this?

[Sylveria]

Can someone explain what is the point of making a hunter human if he doesn't have any bonuses for this?

What is the point of Nightelf Priests? What is the point of Human Warlocks? They dont have any boni either. ^^
It's not always about efficiency or gameplay, but also about authenticity, roleplay, in-world logic and lore.

Never forget, that TWoW is a RP-PvE-Server. :D RP is also important.
They don't just add new stuff because they can, but it 'fits'. :D

And as they mentioned in their post: The humans are being trained by their high elf allies. :)

[Bloodline1x9]

Can someone explain what is the point of making a hunter human if he doesn't have any bonuses for this?

What is the point of Nightelf Priests? What is the point of Human Warlocks? They dont have any boni either. ^^
It's not always about efficiency or gameplay, but also about authenticity, roleplay, in-world logic and lore.

NE priest has an alternate skill. Starfall
The human warlock imposes a buff of invisible vision that is combined with the racial skill.
Human hunters gain nothing from choosing a race. Because their creation did not appreciate that they can be hunters.

Undead and Gnomes have obvious advantages as Hunters. I do not see such in human.
I could and would be interested in choosing a human hunter as new thing. But why if I don't get anything at level 60 for either pve or pvp. Human racial skills are too weak for hunters. If the human race wasn't intended for hunters from the beginning, maybe something should be added to them that only affects hunters?

[Sylveria]

Human hunters gain nothing from choosing a race. Because their creation did not appreciate that they can be hunters.

Undead and Gnomes have obvious advantages as Hunters. I do not see such in human.
I could and would be interested in choosing a human hunter as new thing. But why if I don't get anything at level 60 for either pve or pvp. Human racial skills are too weak for hunters. If the human race wasn't intended for hunters from the beginning, maybe something should be added to them that only affects hunters?

Then +Sword-Skill for Melee-Hunter Build? And as stated: It's not always about gameplay.

[Zexige]

When is Patch 1.16.6 expected to be updated? I can't wait to play Vagrant's Endeavor!!!

[Ulukay]

From what level will it be possible to take the challenge "Vagrant's Endeavor"? I don't really want to start a new game for the sake of it, but I really want to get the title of "The Wanderer".

[Ulukay]

A warlock troll is a bad idea. The ability to regenerate + pumping health into mana will cause an imbalance.

[Lcmwww]

how can I ues Mac?

[Rudyraccoon]

A warlock troll is a bad idea. The ability to regenerate + pumping health into mana will cause an imbalance.

Yeah, and couple Life Tap to below at least 30% health with Berserker, and you got yourself one really fast caster.

[Xxaczzz]

how can I ues Mac?

You can use Parallels Desktop, works fine for me

[Sylveria]

Will it be ever released ? I mean 6 months of teasing isn't teasing anymore ...

6 months is nothing. :D
The big class change was announced for a year before it was released. ;D

[Neo4m]

For the Vagrant's Endeavor, there should be a bonus challenge to do it barefoot the entire time awarding "the Barefoot" title.