Troll racials in 1.17.2 – what do you think?

[Niefalt]

Greetings, everyone!

I’d like to hear from more experienced warlocks about your thoughts on the recent changes to Troll racial abilities and how they impact our class.

For those who might not remember, here’s a quote from patch notes 1.17.2:

– Berserking now grants between 10% - 15% attack and casting speed depending on how badly you are hurt instead of between 10% - 30%.
– Regeneration now increases health regeneration by 20% instead of 10% and allows 25% of total health regeneration to continue in combat instead of 10%.

In my opinion, the [Berserking] ability was nerfed specifically because of warlocks, and now it doesn’t seem as powerful for our class as it used to be.

That said, the [Regeneration] ability received a buff, and I’m curious to understand if this makes playing a Troll warlock more appealing. How noticeable is this ability at higher levels? Does it significantly improve the survivability of the character?

[Ataika]

Warlock does not have high regeneration from stats so passive in barely noticable with all its buffs.
But i have switched from orc to troll anyway, mostly for pvp since hardiness became meme with all these insignia changes, bloodlust self debuff for tiny spellpower gain is meh but troll racial allows ~ 3 sec soulfires or land a fast fear

[Akos1896]

I'm fine with them. Being able to get 30% haste under specific circumstances from a racial felt too strong for PVE.
On the other hand, health regen... Seems more interesting now but probably still borderline useless.
Closest thing to health regen base calculation I found is this, under 'Spirit-Based Regeneration':
https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki ... generation

If the numbers here are correct, all the new health regen racial did was to make questing a bit smoother via minimally reducing drink uptime + it randomly allowing a weird warrior PVP build to exist because of the warriors' huge spirit health regen. Troll warrior with some health regen gear and big spirit feels like a self-healing machine.

[Volkyte]

Regeneration racial is pathetic as before. Stacking hp5 ? Not enough item with it.

[Grizb37]

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Regeneration is great on a warrior or rogue if you stack Spirit as these classes gain a massive health regen from spirit, kinda useless on other classes though,

[Natuaduck]

I think Berzerking could be more interesting if it was such that once you activate you sacrifice 10% or 15% or 20%, I don't know, of your health or something like it akin to Zul'Jin's "Amani Rage" from Heroes of the Storm.

[Hctwowfan]

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Regeneration is great on a warrior or rogue if you stack Spirit as these classes gain a massive health regen from spirit, kinda useless on other classes though,

That's true. Just for comparison: a warrior regenerates 0.8 hp per spirit while a druid regenerates 0.09. Has anyone tested if troll racial and similar effects from items stack?

[Volkyte]

viewtopic.php?t=15865 - look at this

Regeneration is great on a warrior or rogue if you stack Spirit as these classes gain a massive health regen from spirit, kinda useless on other classes though,

That's true. Just for comparison: a warrior regenerates 0.8 hp per spirit while a druid regenerates 0.09. Has anyone tested if troll racial and similar effects from items stack?

Good luck kitting warrior or rogue with spirit gear sir.

[Ataika]

Good luck kitting warrior or rogue with spirit gear sir.

There is not point to kite spirit gear players they hit like wet noodles