Judgement of Light Healing affected by Righteous Fury

[Jackless89]

I wonder if the healing done by Judgment of Light is generating threat and if that threat is also increased by Righteous Fury. The Tooltip of RF says it only affects holy attacks and I guess self heal doesnt count as an attack?

[Boras]

Gaining resources directly generate threat. Rage, health, and mana gains generate threat divided equally to all mobs that have been aggroed. Rage has 5x threat modifier, health has a 0.25x threat modifier, and mana has a 0.5x modifier. Buffing also causes threat. You’re better off using Seal of Wisdom/Judgement of Wisdom combo when tanking trash. Seal of Righteousness/Judgement of Wisdom with 5 stacks of Crusader Strike is what you want for single target. Seal of Light/Judgement of light is used as a form of proactive damage mitigation similar to blocking from Redoubt or Holy Shield. This is good if you are sure you can hold threat but expect a tons of damage like from the dragonkin in Sunken Temple that reduce your armor by 50%. The threat is given to whomever receives the hp or mana gain from the Judgement procs. I’m unsure if RF affects the threat modifier for this on this server. I think it only affects holy damage.

[Boras]

I wonder if the healing done by Judgment of Light is generating threat and if that threat is also increased by Righteous Fury. The Tooltip of RF says it only affects holy attacks and I guess self heal doesnt count as an attack?

This server is scuffed. Wisdom procs do not generate threat. Needs to be fixed.

[Trymv1]

This server is scuffed. Wisdom procs do not generate threat. Needs to be fixed.

Thats Blizzlike.

[Boras]

This server is scuffed. Wisdom procs do not generate threat. Needs to be fixed.

Thats Blizzlike.

No it’s not. Procs that generate resources aka rage, energy, hp, or mana are supposed to cause threat. 0.5x is the threat modifier for mana and righteous fury has a 1.9x threat modifier for holy spells

[Trymv1]

No it’s not. Procs that generate resources aka rage, energy, hp, or mana are supposed to cause threat. 0.5x is the threat modifier for mana and righteous fury has a 1.9x threat modifier for holy spells

Mana generated per JoW proc is a standardized thing (its basically 25 on proc), is only gained by whoever regens it and not globally funneled into the Paladin, and Righteous Fury doesnt affect it because the proc itself is a Physical school ability.

Blizzlike.

[Boras]

No it’s not. Procs that generate resources aka rage, energy, hp, or mana are supposed to cause threat. 0.5x is the threat modifier for mana and righteous fury has a 1.9x threat modifier for holy spells

Mana generated per JoW proc is a standardized thing (its basically 25 on proc), is only gained by whoever regens it and not globally funneled into the Paladin, and Righteous Fury doesnt affect it because the proc itself is a Physical school ability.

Blizzlike.

No one said it funnels all threat to the paladin. It’s a holy spell. Righteous fury is supposed to affect it. It currently generates zero threat whatsoever. Stay ignorant.

[Balake]

No one said it funnels all threat to the paladin. It’s a holy spell. Righteous fury is supposed to affect it. It currently generates zero threat whatsoever. Stay ignorant.

Resource generation is not affected by any modifiers. Bloodrage for warriors is not affected by the Defensive stance modifier.

[Boras]

No one said it funnels all threat to the paladin. It’s a holy spell. Righteous fury is supposed to affect it. It currently generates zero threat whatsoever. Stay ignorant.

Resource generation is not affected by any modifiers. Bloodrage for warriors is not affected by the Defensive stance modifier.

Apples and oranges. Am I talking about warriors? No.

RF is supposed to modify all holy spell threat by 1.9. End of story. Blessings are modified (except bow). Consecration, seal of righteousness, holy shield, blessing of sanctuary, and seal of light are modified. Seal of wisdom and judgment of wisdom cause zero threat. A proc from judgment of wisdom gives 59 mana, which should translate to 29.5 threat normally. This does not occur. The same proc with a paladin using RF should cause 56.05 threat. This also does not occur. This needs to be fixed.

[Balake]

You're the one who brought it up here

Gaining resources directly generate threat. Rage, health, and mana gains generate threat divided equally to all mobs that have been aggroed. Rage has 5x threat modifier, health has a 0.25x threat modifier, and mana has a 0.5x modifier. Buffing also causes threat. You’re better off using Seal of Wisdom/Judgement of Wisdom combo when tanking trash. Seal of Righteousness/Judgement of Wisdom with 5 stacks of Crusader Strike is what you want for single target. Seal of Light/Judgement of light is used as a form of proactive damage mitigation similar to blocking from Redoubt or Holy Shield. This is good if you are sure you can hold threat but expect a tons of damage like from the dragonkin in Sunken Temple that reduce your armor by 50%. The threat is given to whomever receives the hp or mana gain from the Judgement procs. I’m unsure if RF affects the threat modifier for this on this server. I think it only affects holy damage.

No, it's NOT comparing apples to oranges. Righteous Fury does not increase the threat generated by judgement of wisdom if it theoretically generated threat. That is not blizzlike behavior.

That doesn't mean I'm against making it do that though? I'm just replying to you cause you said the other person is ignorant when you yourself were unaware of this quirk in the threat system.

[Boras]

You're the one who brought it up here

Gaining resources directly generate threat. Rage, health, and mana gains generate threat divided equally to all mobs that have been aggroed. Rage has 5x threat modifier, health has a 0.25x threat modifier, and mana has a 0.5x modifier. Buffing also causes threat. You’re better off using Seal of Wisdom/Judgement of Wisdom combo when tanking trash. Seal of Righteousness/Judgement of Wisdom with 5 stacks of Crusader Strike is what you want for single target. Seal of Light/Judgement of light is used as a form of proactive damage mitigation similar to blocking from Redoubt or Holy Shield. This is good if you are sure you can hold threat but expect a tons of damage like from the dragonkin in Sunken Temple that reduce your armor by 50%. The threat is given to whomever receives the hp or mana gain from the Judgement procs. I’m unsure if RF affects the threat modifier for this on this server. I think it only affects holy damage.

No, it's NOT comparing apples to oranges. Righteous Fury does not increase the threat generated by judgement of wisdom if it theoretically generated threat. That is not blizzlike behavior.

That doesn't mean I'm against making it do that though? I'm just replying to you cause you said the other person is ignorant when you yourself were unaware of this quirk in the threat system.

Yes, it does get modified by RF. It also doesn't cause any threat whatsoever which is a problem. I'm done talking to retards.