So Crowded

[Redmagejoe]

You lose any credibility when you suggest segregating the HC community to another realm. Before you move to make your arguments for this point, every single argument for and against has been made already, and it has been overwhelmingly stated by HC players, non-HC players, and Staff that this is a terrible idea.

Let us refrain from retreading the same discussion. The majority does not want HC to have their own realm, your definition of "meaningful interaction" is flawed (and I'll happily pull up my post pointing out why if you wish to pursue this dead horse of a topic), and the primary solution to overcrowded areas is adjustments which can easily be made to quest objectives like respawn timers.

Be patient.

[Element19090]

You lose any credibility when you suggest segregating the HC community to another realm. Before you move to make your arguments for this point, every single argument for and against has been made already, and it has been overwhelmingly stated by HC players, non-HC players, and Staff that this is a terrible idea.

Let us refrain from retreading the same discussion. The majority does not want HC to have their own realm, your definition of "meaningful interaction" is flawed (and I'll happily pull up my post pointing out why if you wish to pursue this dead horse of a topic), and the primary solution to overcrowded areas is adjustments which can easily be made to quest objectives like respawn timers.

Be patient.

I am curious to see your previous post and what everyone else had to say on it.

[Redmagejoe]

viewtopic.php?p=33547

Here is the most recent thread that was made on this issue, but certainly not the only one in the last year. Rather than linking my post directly, it would be best if you read the thread in full so that all posts are presented in their full context.

You can see that even in that thread, a link was made to a previous thread, and the history goes on and on with varying levels of civility and toxicity.

[Coztdiver]

It's not like just one are is crowded, but almost all of'em. especially low level zones like Elwynn, Teldrassil, Westfall etc.
i know: unpopular opinion, but maybe a 2nd realm would be an option.

IF we just gave HC their own realm it would solve quite a bit of the population problem. They have a nice chunk of the player base and really are not able to have any meaningful interaction with regular players at all besides fighting over mob tags. It's needlessly obnoxious.

This This This. Please. I have started 3 new char total and all the areas are clogged. At all hours too, I have been online all hours, even woken up early to try and still lots!

[Karrados]

It's not going to happen. The Team already said they have no intention of seperating those two (HC and Non HC)

[Mavbyte]

It's not going to happen. The Team already said they have no intention of seperating those two (HC and Non HC)

Then maybe Rp and non-Rp? xD

[Karrados]

I don't think seperating 10 people from the thousands will do any good. With that said the Team made it clear that they don't want to split -any- communities which would also include RPers and Non-RPers.

So your best hope is that people learn how to play together and group up for content where they can group up and if it's a HC then just embrace it and move on.

[Bluecenter]

Appreciate the responses and suggestions. Based on the info provided, it seems safe to sum it all up as: deal with the overcrowded areas or leave, it will not change. Not what I was hoping for, but I do understand.

Thanks all.

[Xudo]

• Lowered respawn time of almost all high-competition quest objectives in level 1-20 zones.

• Working on a general server performance :)

Issues of high populated areas are being addressed on regular basis.

Making other server is not an option.

[Werefox]

Some random observations from one of those pesky newcomers or "My first Friday night in Elwynn"

- The Newcomers guild chat. Well, that one is easily solved by immediate /gquit.

- A level 9 twinked to the teeth PvP flagged Horde hanging around in level 6 mine in hope to be accidentally targeted. Good luck, with 3 kobolds per 30 players. Just don't take candle.

- Female human paladin named Holytits. Looking forward to exciting RP events to have with that person. I mean, only a true romantic would reference a rare bird in her name, right?

- A PvP flagged BEAR (hunter under EoB perhaps?) spending good 2 minutes trying to get into my crosshair. Dude, I'm a geriatric player with arthritis, I simply cannot target anything that moves like a 12 y.o. missing his Ritalin.

- Absolutely shameless mob stealing everywere. Wait for that kobold, start killing it. Some level 6 with Crusader enchantment shows up and easily steals the tag (mine is a fresh warlock with no gear whatsoever). But hey, Elwynn has like 20 new quests, so I move elsewhere to do those. BAM! - Pyroblast - my mob is gone.

- Well, don't care, I accidentally gained like 4 levels of rested XP by standing next to some weird contraption, so I levelled anyway. Without witnessing a singe bit of RP interaction.

In conclusion - no, population number is definitely not a problem.

I would also like to hope that it's just Elwynn and it gets better later on, but... who gives Crusaders to all those level 6?

[Maesus]

I would also like to hope that it's just Elwynn and it gets better later on, but... who gives Crusaders to all those level 6?

Elwynn is the worst this server has to offer, in my opinion, sans the new quests - those are cute. It gets better, obviously. Loads of players get bored before they even reach 10. But the human zones are still the most popular and it doesn't really get better until Duskwood.

Elwynn wasn't always such a mess. Tent parties used to be held in Gurubashi Arena. Also, just teleporting all High Elves, the second most popular race, to Elwynn, the most popular starting zone and home to the most popular race, was just a bad move, lol.

[Pistol]

If people are really this worried over overcrowding in Elwynn then they could simply play another race or go to some half-dead server.

[Clarithium]

if you're worried about overcrowding in your starting zone...

1, roll horde, it has less pop.

2, go to another starter zone, you can reach them all easily with in game transportation.

SW-> IF tram
SW also has a boat to the night elf area I believe, though maybe I confused it

3, actually invite people doing the same quest. This is a multiplayer game, you dont gotta be antisocial. Well, unless you're hardcore, those guys are all mob stealing goobers that refuse to group

[Mavbyte]

- Female human paladin named Holytits. Looking forward to exciting RP events to have with that person. I mean, only a true romantic would reference a rare bird in her name, right?

- Well, don't care, I accidentally gained like 4 levels of rested XP by standing next to some weird contraption, so I levelled anyway. Without witnessing a singe bit of RP interaction.

Those are my problems atm as well. I wouldn't care for the big numbers if the people would behave like decent human beings (or roleplay as whatever they are in this world) "Playing as someone who's afk under a tent" is not roleplaying.
Over the last couple of days I've only been in Goldshire to check all the names and report everyone who may have violated naming rules.

[Myclassisbroke]

Guys there one solution to this.. Remove Pala from game, then population will be cut down by 75%

Only problem with this is there wil be no more BG's as that's the only class alliance play. I mean who wouldn't wanna 1 shot plate with a green wep.

[Mac]

Some random observations from one of those pesky newcomers or "My first Friday night in Elwynn"

- The Newcomers guild chat. Well, that one is easily solved by immediate /gquit.

- A level 9 twinked to the teeth PvP flagged Horde hanging around in level 6 mine in hope to be accidentally targeted. Good luck, with 3 kobolds per 30 players. Just don't take candle.

- Female human paladin named Holytits. Looking forward to exciting RP events to have with that person. I mean, only a true romantic would reference a rare bird in her name, right?

- A PvP flagged BEAR (hunter under EoB perhaps?) spending good 2 minutes trying to get into my crosshair. Dude, I'm a geriatric player with arthritis, I simply cannot target anything that moves like a 12 y.o. missing his Ritalin.

- Absolutely shameless mob stealing everywere. Wait for that kobold, start killing it. Some level 6 with Crusader enchantment shows up and easily steals the tag (mine is a fresh warlock with no gear whatsoever). But hey, Elwynn has like 20 new quests, so I move elsewhere to do those. BAM! - Pyroblast - my mob is gone.

- Well, don't care, I accidentally gained like 4 levels of rested XP by standing next to some weird contraption, so I levelled anyway. Without witnessing a singe bit of RP interaction.

In conclusion - no, population number is definitely not a problem.

I would also like to hope that it's just Elwynn and it gets better later on, but... who gives Crusaders to all those level 6?

This was a fun read. I feel the pain.

If you're into roleplaying (or interested in trying), get the TurtleRP addon. It was made for this server, hence the name. It's what the roleplayers on this server use and it has a lot of really great features. I'd also recommend getting on the Turtle WoW discord and talking to other roleplayers there. You should also look through the roleplaying guild listings on discord, find one that interests you, and join it. There's also this thread listing active roleplaying guilds that can help you find one. There's basically a roleplaying guild out there for whatever character you've made, and they're pretty much all open and welcoming with their invites.

[Werefox]

After about a week here I can confirm that it does get better as long as you stay away from Elwynn.

[Nightowl]

I play on Horde and I haven't noticed it to be this unbearable. Horde Chads.....we just can't stop winning despite the fact that devs hate us and make us feel unloved and unwanted.