Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

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Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Manletow » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:48 pm

NOTE: I realize this rating system is wonky as some attributes are more relevant in PVP scenarios than others.
(but I considered them all equal for this 'experiment')
And some classes can't heal (or have very minor healing) and im not sure how to 'factor' that in.
It's mostly for fun and a very vague general guide of "power levels".

Like I said its wonky; for instance -- Druid should certainly be LOWER on the Tier List. And Warlock should be HIGHER.
Arms Warrior:
Mobility: 2/5
Survivability: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Healing: N/A
Burst Damage: 1/5

General PVP Viability: 1.5/5

Frost Mage:
Mobility: 4/5
Survivability: 4/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Healing: N/A
Burst Damage: 4/5

General PVP Viability: 4/5

Rogue (any):
Mobility: 3/5
Survivability: 2/5
Utility/Support: 1/5
Healing: N/A
Burst Damage: 5/5

General PVP Viability: 2.75/5

Druid (any):
Mobility: 5/5
Survivability: 5/5
Utility/Support: 4/5
Healing: 3/5
Burst Damage: 1/5

General PVP Viability: 3.6/5

Hunter (any):
Mobility: 4/5
Survivability: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Healing: N/A
Burst Damage: 3/5

General PVP Viability: 2.75/5

Shaman (Enhancement):
Mobility: 3/5
Survivability: 3/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Healing: 2/5
Burst Damage: 2/5

General PVP Viability: 3/5

Shaman (Elemental):
Mobility: 1/5
Survivability: 2/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Healing: 2/5
Burst Damage: 5/5

General PVP Viability: 3/5

Priest (Shadow):
Mobility: 1/5
Survivability: 4/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Healing: 1/5 (considered N/A)
Burst Damage: 5/5

General PVP Viability: 3/5

Warlock (Destruction):
Mobility: 1/5
Survivability: 2/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Healing: 1/5 (considered N/A)
Burst Damage: 5/5

General PVP Viability: 2.5/5

Warlock (Affl/Demon):
Mobility: 1/5
Survivability: 4/5
Utility/Support: 2/5
Healing: 1/5 (considered N/A)
Burst Damage: 2/5

General PVP Viability: 2.25/5

Paladin (Paladin Holy/Ret):
Mobility: 2/5
Survivability: 5/5
Utility/Support: 5/5
Healing: 5/5
Burst Damage: 5/5

General PVP Viability: 4.4/5
Supreme Tier:
Paladin 4.4/5

Top Tier:
Frost Mage 4/5

Mid Tier:
Druid 3.6/5
Shaman 3/5
Priest 3/5
Rogue 2.75/5
Hunter 2.75/5

Low Tier:
Destro Warlock 2.5/5
Affl/Demo Warlock: 2.25/5

Trash Tier:

Arms Warrior 1.5/5
Paladin is broken in PVP.
Frost Mage is broken in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Feral Druid is mediocre in PVP.
Enhancement Shaman is fine. Stop begging for goofy custom abilities.

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Steelgrip » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:34 pm

Hmmmm interesting thoughts :)

Maybe give each stat different weight?

Let say some stats are gonna be x/5 some x/10 some maybe even x/15?

So you get something like x/xx in the end?

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Anadrol » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:53 am

Rogues 1/5 utility with the most heavy arsenal of CC in Game. XD

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Sprite » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:10 am

Although your rating is reasonable, the result cannot reflect the true pvp ability of a profession. Let me give you an example: You gave Frost Mage 4 points, but in Turtle Warcraft, a branch can affect the mage's spellcasting. In a wild environment, any rogue who knows how to play can use the terrain at will to escape from the battle under the eyes of the mage. As a senior WoW player, you know what it means for a rogue to escape from the battle. The above is my opinion. Thank you for your post. My most sincere blessings.

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Likaleo » Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:32 pm

Dont feed troll.

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Bigsmerf » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:25 pm

Anadrol wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:53 am
Rogues 1/5 utility with the most heavy arsenal of CC in Game. XD
And 1/5 burst damage on arms warrior. You know, that warrior spec known for its big juicy 2h crits.
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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Oomentaloo » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:56 pm

I thought i was the only one thinking these ratings are way off...
It's a totally subjective tier list, that doesn't get more objective because numbers were used.
And there is no guide part.

Go againe! ;)

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Post by Grizb37 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:22 am

TL:DR I'm a warrior and crying for buffs and want my broken flask abuse back.

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Re: Turtle WoW Classes Attribute Ratings (PvP Guide)

Post by Manletow » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:38 pm

Bigsmerf wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:25 pm
Anadrol wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:53 am
Rogues 1/5 utility with the most heavy arsenal of CC in Game. XD
And 1/5 burst damage on arms warrior. You know, that warrior spec known for its big juicy 2h crits.
Rogue got 1/5 because Sap is overpowered in PVP. (Wisely nerfed in TBC)
Pretty much all their other CC breaks on damage so those abilities are only good for meaningless 1v1 duels.
(Cheap Shot is good but is conditional and costs lots of energy.)

As for Arms Warrior: their burst damage is awful.
they require 30 rage to use Mortal Strike and die before they even generate 30 rage.

Even worse is that all their attacks are mitigated by armor. Mortal Strike hits like a wet noodle against Plate wearers (like the extremely popular/OP Paladin class for example)

Indeed, Paladins Holy Strike is vastly more powerful due to ignoring armor completely. And its somewhat cheap to 'cast' and is acquired for free (no talents required) at level 4.

Warrior is just awful. Especially when Paladins exist
Paladin is broken in PVP.
Frost Mage is broken in PVP/PVE.
Warrior is awful in PVP.
Feral Druid is mediocre in PVP.
Enhancement Shaman is fine. Stop begging for goofy custom abilities.

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