Invasion of the honor boosters/premade boosters

[Fairplay1]

Hello players and admins.

For two or three months in pvp on the server is a nightmare.

Battlegrounds and arenas are filled with honor boosters from China. They play whole premades of 10-15 people 24 hours a day. To win on the battle for the alliance has become impossible, you can play for a week and not meet not a single victory on each of the battlegrounds. Not only that they do not let you win, they are still scaling the line of honor to take ranks to cosmic proportions, thereby deliberately pushing European players out of the table. It is now impossible to take 13-14 ranks alone.

The situation has reached a critical point, for a week the alliance can not bring even 1 flag on Warsong. Arati is losing 4-1, 5-0 every time for all months. Chinese boosters are reporting European players to get deserters. But when we report Chinese boosters, nothing is done by the administration.

This week there will be 2 arati, Chinese boosters will make twice 400k and it's already 800k honor, when a normal european can make 600 max in a week. This is a total destruction of all European players on Tourtle.

Admins could disable the ability to register primades altogether, that might fix the situation. Or block all boosters, I can list all the nicknames who do this and the nickname of the organizer of this nightmare.

Places are now sold only for real money and only among the Chinese, who completely control the system.

[Mikeyhong]

Which realm you played?

[Fairplay1]

Which realm you played?

Turtle Wow (RP)

[Evilchocolate]

What stops you from playing like them?

[Fairplay1]

What stops you from playing like them?

Server rules, any commercial raids and sale of places are prohibited. We no longer have enough players to form at least a premade team; almost everyone has given up trying to raise their rank.

[D4l]

There are already some posts complaining that premade is ruining the fun of PVP and battleground:

- viewtopic.php?p=76150
- viewtopic.php?p=75829
- viewtopic.php?p=71850

Nothing changes but it is going even worst now.

It becomes VERY VERY HARD for a solo player to get enough honor points to reach rank 12 or higher, as the top level players get over 1.4 million honor last week, which is IMPOSSIBLE to archieve without premade and 18h*7. We used to keep 300k+ for four or five weeks to reach R14 months ago.

Please do something to solve this frustrating PVP environment ASAP! Abandon those premade farmer or change the honor system with a fixed max honor just like vanilla's!

[Fairplay1]

Right now, 2 prime alliance boosters are farming honor and boost accounts for money. Admins, will you do something or not?

The horde has the same thing.

Prohibit the ability to register bg in a group, only make it possible to register solo. Do something.

[Blackduck]

Please bring cross faction.

[Rnab]

screw this. I can rank up on era without having to deal with this BS.

[Witherium]

It’s hard to eliminate premade group as you can queue simultaneously and pop into same BG via voice chat, besides most of them just keep playing 18 hours a day and that’s not against any ToS. The real catastrophe is that ppl start selling Honor/BR boosting service by account sharing.

But y premade get ridiculous advantage against solo players. That’s why game dev implanted MMR in every similar games that have player rankings.Blame blz to introduce such primitive system in classic wow

[Marafado]

account share is fine and aproved by server rules, we need to put dadys, moms, cousins...cats and dogs logged ;p

Some one posted "What stops you from playing like them?", this playstyle makes any sense? :)

[Evilchocolate]

You want rank 14, but you don’t want to spend more effort on it than an ordinary player who accidentally discovered the registration button on the BG. What then? You will complain that there are players who have spent their years completing Naxxramas?

[Classicman]

Last time I was in AV I saw the things you speak of and never entered the BG again. Players that don't play, afk, do not follow the objectives even if we have the gear and man power to do it, just the low geared players like me trying to achieve the impossible. That's not pvp in BGs. That's not fun, it's a waste of time due to the honor grinding and ranking pvp system on the cost of players trying to play the game properly.

[Fairplay1]

You want rank 14, but you don’t want to spend more effort on it than an ordinary player who accidentally discovered the registration button on the BG. What then? You will complain that there are players who have spent their years completing Naxxramas?

at the moment Chinese players are not letting Europeans take 14 ranks. Since all the places at the top of the table are pre-sold. As a result, the Europeans just get a rank reduction

[Fairplay1]

https://prnt.sc/vv3iX-Ppio0L Example, all of these accounts are boosted at the moment for real money.

[Fairplay1]

up, admins, do something.

[Xudo]

What exactly you want?
If you just disallow group registration, those premades will just register individually. Even if not all of them will be in same team, group of 8 organized players will manage any group of 10 disorganized players.

If devs introduce upper limit for honor per week, like retail did. Those farmers will play for different characters instead of playing 24/7 for one character. Premades will be there anyway. Their composition will change over time.

Be part of solution, make social connections among other players. Make your own premade and fight. I don't see why cooperative play should somehow be punished in MMO game.

[Fairplay1]

What exactly you want?
If you just disallow group registration, those premades will just register individually. Even if not all of them will be in same team, group of 8 organized players will manage any group of 10 disorganized players.

If devs introduce upper limit for honor per week, like retail did. Those farmers will play for different characters instead of playing 24/7 for one character. Premades will be there anyway. Their composition will change over time.

Be part of solution, make social connections among other players. Make your own premade and fight. I don't see why cooperative play should somehow be punished in MMO game.

How can you team up with boosters from china? It's impossible. And there are so few Europeans left that there won't even be enough of us for a primade, and even if there are, a primade of boosters from another faction won't let us play. They're all in cahoots there and control the system.

[Xudo]

Team up with normal players.
Make discord channel. Choose time when you ready to play in group. Spam in world channel about your premade with "raid time".
There are still 7k people on PvE realm. I'm sure there are enough players willing to PvP, but stuck being lonely.

[Fairplay1]

Team up with normal players.
Make discord channel. Choose time when you ready to play in group. Spam in world channel about your premade with "raid time".
There are still 7k people on PvE realm. I'm sure there are enough players willing to PvP, but stuck being lonely.

All this has been done more than once. Do you think there are novice players sitting here who don’t understand anything? We spend 16-18 hours a day for 2 months to reach the maximum rank, bg regs immediately after leaving them. Do you think we haven't tried all the options? The root of the problem is that Chinese players do not allow European players to take rank 14, since they are selling out places in the 1st bracket.

[Fairplay1]

up up up

[Dasitmane]

Team up with normal players.
Make discord channel. Choose time when you ready to play in group. Spam in world channel about your premade with "raid time".
There are still 7k people on PvE realm. I'm sure there are enough players willing to PvP, but stuck being lonely.

Mate you really need to start shutting up when it comes to stuff you have no idea about. Get a life outside of posting on forums

[Fairplay1]

Team up with normal players.
Make discord channel. Choose time when you ready to play in group. Spam in world channel about your premade with "raid time".
There are still 7k people on PvE realm. I'm sure there are enough players willing to PvP, but stuck being lonely.

Mate you really need to start shutting up when it comes to stuff you have no idea about. Get a life outside of posting on forums

I think he is forum troll

[Evilchocolate]

I think you are not as strong as you claim. The "Evil Chinese" are stronger than you. Figure out how to organize a team, not noah.

[Dasitmane]

I think you are not as strong as you claim. The "Evil Chinese" are stronger than you. Figure out how to organize a team, not noah.

Okay Zhang, having 10 afk teammates in bg makes you weak. I got it.

[Xudo]

If whole your team is AFK, then you clearly fail the task "organize your team" and "find good group to play as premade".
Lone hero won't be able to compete against organized group.
Devs will not ban organized groups because it is how MMO is supposed to be played.

[Dasitmane]

If whole your team is AFK, then you clearly fail the task "organize your team" and "find good group to play as premade".
Lone hero won't be able to compete against organized group.
Devs will not ban organized groups because it is how MMO is supposed to be played.

What rank are you again?

[Xudo]

What rank are you again?

I have a life outside of playing battlegrounds.
You should embrace my wisdom and learn how to play with other people in MMO game.
Don't be incompetent noob who just whine on forums.

[Dasitmane]

What rank are you again?

I have a life outside of playing battlegrounds.

Not a life outside of giving shit advice on forums tho.
Stick to having fun at under level 60 or whatever ur motto is. Everyone has advice but you never did what you're advicing for.

[Xudo]

If you think that whining on forums about premades would be more effective than making your own premade, then I have no other shit advise for you.
git gud

[Dasitmane]

I'd care about your opinon if you actually had any weight in the matter. You don't pvp on turtle.

[Xudo]

Even if you ignore me, you still would not succeed with whining on forums.

Find yourself good group, play Blood ring to train your team. Play AV to train in large team. Then go premade in Wsg. Get some gear in dungeons if you don't have any. There is no other real option here.

[Fairplay1]

I think you are not as strong as you claim. The "Evil Chinese" are stronger than you. Figure out how to organize a team, not noah.

Buddy, you don't know the situation at all. But think about it, if a whole primaid of boosters is trying to prevent me and other players from taking r14, does that mean I'm trying not hard? For information, I'm supposed to be r14 this week.

[Jammyxx]

Last time I checked caps were 1.3 million, back in April caps were around 400k. Before the Chinese influx... This amount of playing is not healthy at all. Suggest to do what blizz did and cap 13000 RP at 500k Honor, to end this madness.

[Xudo]

Last time I checked caps were 1.3 million, back in April caps were around 400k. Before the Chinese influx... This amount of playing is not healthy at all. Suggest to do what blizz did and cap 13000 RP at 500k Honor, to end this madness.

This I actually agree with. Honor system is flawed. Blizz made cheap and easy solution with honor caps.
Initially I thought that problem here is "I can't group up and beat them".
But "amount of farm is too high" is totally valid problem. Though devs are aware about it. We will see how they would solve it.