Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

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Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:04 am

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Intro: Originally, hunters were designed to be played as a ranged class and the legitimacy of a hunter in the melee role was rarely considered. However, with a game that has been dissected for over a decade this dated notion has now been disregarded. It's crucial to remember your melee journey demands a large amount of effort for players to recognise. Painting yourself in the most positive light possible will have lasting results. See Video to learn more.
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Caperfin's Melee Hunter


Being attentive and well mannered will have positive ripple effects later on. You want as much working for you as possible. If done properly, you’ll be known as not only a skilled Hunter but a proficient Melee Hunter who goes above and beyond expectations.
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Video: Races - Video Explanation
Horde races have the benefit of Windfury Totem, thus the superior faction. The best races being Troll excelling on ~45 seconds fights due to Berserking & Orc with Blood Fury excelling on longer fights. To learn more about race options, see the Video.
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Pets

Video: Pet - Youtube
A pet contributes a decent amount to our general damage. But, if you don’t cater to the survival of a pet it will be a detriment to your DPS. Therefore, it’s not only advised to move out of the “giant fire” on the ground but also manage the position of a pet. Those who master this notion, should consider investing into buffs for their pet. In terms of damage, the pet family: "Cat", come in first place but more specifically Broken Tooth who has a unique 1.0 second attack speed.
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Video: Professions
Engineering for: Gnomish Battle Chicken, Goblin Sapper Charge, Goblin Jumper Cables XL among many other items. As a second profession, pick an easy or high gold generating one, this helps you buy powerful potions.
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Video: Buffs
There's a max of 32 Buffs, avoid nearing the max as it may result in Buffs getting mistakenly removed, the addon: Buff Cap Tracker helps. Use Buff Cap Calc to see what Buffs stack. Being in melee leads to a higher chance of dying, so get a few Buffs to bolster your survival. A max of 16 Debuffs can be on a mob, Faerie Fire and other armor reducing debuffs are the most influential.
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Phantom of the Wing Clip

The basic spell Wing Clip performs a “Phantom Strike”, which causes a melee swing but no actual damage is dealt but it will still trigger effects that require a melee swing to activate, ex: Windfury Totem, Hand of Justice, Dragonbreath Chili among others.
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Video: Gear
We gear similarly to a traditional ranged hunter. It’s possible to play as a ranged hunter and get Melee Hunter gear without anyone noticing. See Gear List. General Stat Priority: Dual-Wield Melee Hit Cap (12%) > Agility > Strength/Attack Power > Intellect. General Stat Priority: Dual-Wield Melee Hit Cap (12%) > Agility > Strength/Attack Power > Intellect.

Enchants are tailored the same way as the gearing process. See the list of Enchants to learn more.
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Video: Talents
  • Short Fights: (31/0/21) Mostly for ~2min fights. It's crucial to keep you pet alive for as long as possible. If this is not feasible, consider the next setup.
  • Support: (0/31/20) Typically, this setup is for a guild’s progression through a raid. You will likely be put in a group with damage dealing Warriors. You might also be asked to equip Nightfall for the first ~30 seconds of a fight.
  • Anti-Pet Fights/Long Fights: (21/0/30) The setup solution for a pet dying often and +2min fights. It requires gear from AQ to unlock its potential. Also, ideal for fights where keeping a distance is sometimes needed.

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Video: Melee Hunter - Rotation
1. Pre Pull: Before the fight starts, make sure you and your pet get the most buffs out there in the world. Buffs will slowly start to countdown, so be sure to Log Out to keep their duration and log back into the game when the raid is ready. In terms of Hunter Aspects, use Aspect of the Monkey, if the fight has moments when you cannot go in melee than instead use Aspect of the Hawk. If the fight requires attacking targets that have distance between each other use Aspect of the Cheetah to reach the next target faster.

2. Pulling: Summon your pet and ask the Raid for the few remaining buffs.
  • Pulling-Situational: If it’s required to keep a distance for a few seconds either at the start or later in a fight, equip Primal Blessing and Hurricane, cast Rapid Fire and get as many ranged auto-attacks out as possible before being allowed to go into melee. Once you get the Primal Blessing buff, equip all your normal gear and head towards the target.

3. Combat: Run towards the mob, use Arcane Shot, use Raptor Strike while pressing Wing Clip. Once you reach the mob, use a trinket, ex: Earthstrike. Spam WG until RS comes of cooldown. Continuously repeat the WG and RS process.
  • Combat-Situational: If you accidentally Aggro a target and it’s about to attack you. Use the talent spell Deterrence to enable the possibility to Mongoose Bite, after use Limited Invulnerability Potion (cancels Aggro), after help the tank reposition the mob and go behind its back.

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Raukodor » Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:56 pm

Im playing a melee hunter now and have some questions

My build relies in chance on hit weapons because wingclip spam. Does it worth? Or better just go for higher dps weapons?

Counterattak. Worth it? Crap damage and for root enemies inhave improved wingclip

Improved wingclip. I feel it pretty useful against elites to kite more easily. Worth it or just take parry? I usually play solo and is for leveling

Clever traps. Seems pretty good

Lightnight reflexes. I heard only good with aq gear

Bestial swiftness. Worth it?

And for gear. I always pick + hit and dodge and later agility. Do you stack dodge for mongoose procs?

As i said i pick chance on hit weapons like nightblade. Is a good.idea or proc chances are too low for worth it

My idea is have axe of deep woods in main hand and flurry axe in offhand. And maelstrom trinket is good? Or just better go for heavy hitters.

My overall doubt is if worth go.dual with chanxe on hit weapons
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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:01 pm

Raukodor wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:56 pm
Im playing a melee hunter now and have some questions

My build relies in chance on hit weapons because wingclip spam. Does it worth? Or better just go for higher dps weapons?

Counterattak. Worth it? Crap damage and for root enemies inhave improved wingclip

Improved wingclip. I feel it pretty useful against elites to kite more easily. Worth it or just take parry? I usually play solo and is for leveling
If you plan to level as a melee hunter Imp. Wing Clip can be useful if you suddenly might die and need to escape.

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:59 pm

The guide has been updated, if you have any questions, let me know :)

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Rafale » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:35 pm

I'm now waiting for :

War Fury with staff alias MonkWar
Shockadin ofc
Shamtank but maybe not enough shit
Spell rogue
Moonkin Tank
Starshards Priest
Arcane-only Mage
Firestone Melee Lock

Maybe the shitty state of those spec will inspire some changes to the devs :)

Sarcasm off: thx for the effort !

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Raukodor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm

My biggest question is fat 2h or fast dual

For procs like maelstrom what is better spam wingclip with my fat 2h or just fast autoattacks with dual??

What would do better results?
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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:26 pm

Raukodor wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:48 pm
My biggest question is fat 2h or fast dual

For procs like maelstrom what is better spam wingclip with my fat 2h or just fast autoattacks with dual??

What would do better results?
You can go dual and still WingClip there is no downside to using WingClip. You spam Wing Clip regardless of the weapon (s) you have. Dual weapons is the better option for any situation.

The only REAL case to go 2hand would be if you get BRE or you're really badly geared.

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Raukodor » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:14 am

My thoughts were more for ppm formula

Slow 2hander. More chance to proc any ppm proc spamming wingclip
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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:28 pm

Rafale wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:35 pm
I'm now waiting for :

War Fury with staff alias MonkWar
Shockadin ofc
Shamtank but maybe not enough shit
Spell rogue
Moonkin Tank
Starshards Priest
Arcane-only Mage
Firestone Melee Lock

Maybe the shitty state of those spec will inspire some changes to the devs :)

Sarcasm off: thx for the effort !
I'm not too familiar with Staff Warrior but wouldn't it just be a Warrior with a staff weapon? pretty much just boils down to the Warrior forgetting what type of weapon they have equipped.

Or is there a special proc effect staff?

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Re: Melee Hunter Guide - DPS Physical Hunter Melee

Post by Yutilk » Fri May 20, 2022 10:12 pm

Guide is in the process of getting updated!

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