Dishonorable Ranks

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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Armwvingtoobman » Thu May 09, 2019 10:25 pm

I'm new to PVE servers. I didn't know wpvp was a thing. Or, at least, I'm excited if it is! Are there just restrictions on it or something?

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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Sinrek » Thu May 09, 2019 11:49 pm

It is available when you either type /pvp on or enter the Gurubashi Arena where you'll be Free For All PvP unless grouped.
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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Musse » Wed May 29, 2019 8:50 pm

Pompa wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 4:11 pm
Going dishonorable is instant; gaining honor, not. You'll need to wait for the weekly honor maintenance.
You still don't seem to get rid of the title "Dishonored"! Or then the amont of honored kills that balance out ONE dishonored kill is huge (how many is required?). It's very easy to get dishonored from one civilian kill without it being your fault: if someone in a group with you kills a civilian, BANG!, you are dishonored. And from my tests done, does 5 honored kills not remove this title. Not after a week, not after two, not after three ...

Could you look into this, and fix it or something. This is ment to be an RP server, and "Dishonored" might not be very nice title to have for RP reasons. I have some characters who shouldn't be Dishonored, and now it seems impossible to get rid of that title - from that one civilian kill. :(

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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Pompa » Wed May 29, 2019 8:57 pm

Musse wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:50 pm
Pompa wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 4:11 pm
Going dishonorable is instant; gaining honor, not. You'll need to wait for the weekly honor maintenance.
You still don't seem to get rid of the title "Dishonored"! Or then the amont of honored kills that balance out ONE dishonored kill is huge (how many is required?). It's very easy to get dishonored from one civilian kill without it being your fault: if someone in a group with you kills a civilian, BANG!, you are dishonored. And from my tests done, does 5 honored kills not remove this title. Not after a week, not after two, not after three ...

Could you look into this, and fix it or something. This is ment to be an RP server, and "Dishonored" might not be very nice title to have for RP reasons. I have some characters who shouldn't be Dishonored, and now it seems impossible to get rid of that title - from that one civilian kill. :(
That's how the system was meant to work, you need at least 25 Honorable Kills in order to rank up that week. But actually I'm thinking that we could implement some repeatable quests to gain honor until you stop being Dishonorable... Like giving bandages to heal the injured or something like that!
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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Musse » Wed May 29, 2019 10:06 pm

Thanks for the number "25" :) I asume that's per dishonored kill, so 2 dishonored kills needs 50 honored kills then!?

A quest like "Use X Bandages" is a great idea. Something else that those 25 battleground (practically) kills for every "by mistake" civilian kills. Can be a big number for some.

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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Sinrek » Wed May 29, 2019 10:12 pm

Justified punishment for mistakes.
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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Pompa » Wed May 29, 2019 10:59 pm

Musse wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 10:06 pm
Thanks for the number "25" :) I asume that's per dishonored kill, so 2 dishonored kills needs 50 honored kills then!?

A quest like "Use X Bandages" is a great idea. Something else that those 25 battleground (practically) kills for every "by mistake" civilian kills. Can be a big number for some.
No, no, you haven't understood it: You need a minimum of 25 HKs to increase your honor standing. If you haven't gotten at least 25 HKs in a week, your honor standing won't increase in that weekly honor maintenance.
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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Musse » Thu May 30, 2019 9:46 pm

Sinrek wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 10:12 pm
Justified punishment for mistakes.
In my example for other's mistakes.

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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Sinrek » Thu May 30, 2019 10:46 pm

Musse wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 9:46 pm
Sinrek wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 10:12 pm
Justified punishment for mistakes.
In my example for other's mistakes.
How's that?
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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Musse » Thu May 30, 2019 10:54 pm

Sinrek wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:46 pm
Musse wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 9:46 pm
Sinrek wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 10:12 pm
Justified punishment for mistakes.
In my example for other's mistakes.
How's that?
If you are in a group, and anyone in the group, kill a civilian your standing with be dishonored. No matter you did not touch the civilian. Not matter if you wanted to avoid the killing of the civilian.

Then we have "mixed" groups ally/horde. The other party might have a quest to kill an NPC that for you would be a dishonored kill. But when he does, you get a dishonored count. (Accutually not sure of this case is out there, but if it is, you will get the dishonored kill.)

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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Sinrek » Fri May 31, 2019 5:59 am

Musse wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:54 pm
Sinrek wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:46 pm
Musse wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 9:46 pm


In my example for other's mistakes.
How's that?
If you are in a group, and anyone in the group, kill a civilian your standing with be dishonored. No matter you did not touch the civilian. Not matter if you wanted to avoid the killing of the civilian.

Then we have "mixed" groups ally/horde. The other party might have a quest to kill an NPC that for you would be a dishonored kill. But when he does, you get a dishonored count. (Accutually not sure of this case is out there, but if it is, you will get the dishonored kill.)
So you've grouped with civilian killers ... do you expect people to judge you not if you were there and let the killing happened anyway? hiding_smth_turtle_head
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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Musse » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:36 pm

Sinrek wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 5:59 am
So you've grouped with civilian killers ... do you expect people to judge you not if you were there and let the killing happened anyway?
I'm trying to have a constructive discussion, which you apparently not are.

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Re: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Pompa » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:43 pm

Hey guys, we have removed the minimum number of honorable kills required to rank each week. So, as long as you have 1 honorable kill, you will be allowed to increase your rank after every honor maintenance!
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Re: Sands of Time #03: Dishonorable Ranks

Post by Kazgrim » Thu May 14, 2020 10:36 pm

Kazgrim wrote:
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Dishonor Points

Even among enemies as bitter as the Horde and the Alliance, there is honor. If you flaunt this honor and engage in objectionable PvP play, such as killing new players vastly inferior to you in level, or killing essential non-combat NPCs such as flight masters or quest givers, you will earn dishonor. If you accumulate enough dishonor through your criminal actions, you will be branded an outlaw. As a consequence, you'll suffer experience penalties, lose access to your own faction cities, and become so hated even by your own kind that every faction NPC will attack you on sight.
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