High elves from TBC to BFA

[Cosmico]

Greetings!

For story learning reasons, I wish to know if there is any information related to what did the high elves population accomplished or went involved from the burning crusade up to battle for azeroth if there is any info about this.

As far as I can suppose no high elf civilization could have endured from the burning crusade in the north of the eastern kingdoms because the blood elves went on a rampage to take their position from quel'thalas to undercity.

However if we just take the official responses on this matter we are only told that the single population enough in numbers to be considered are the ren'dorei. This to be said blizzard totally forgot or foreshadowed the existence of the high elves in the whole eastern kingdoms.

My question is, if wow is about wars and massacres occurs all the time, why to hide the massacre of alah'thalas if such a thing had ever possibly existed?

Why to make the high helf race disapear from lore for so many years?

[Galendor]

Allerian Stronghold in Terrokar Forest is a settlement of Sons of Lothar in Outland, founded by the high elves from the Alliance Expedition during the Second War. Auric Sunchaser is its leader, and his Rangers fought against Bonechewers orcs and Illidari blood elves.

In Wrath, elven battlemages fought in the 7th Legion of the Alliance in Northrend (and later during the Fourth War). But the most active quel'dorei group in WoW is the Silver Covenant - a militant core of high elves under the banner of Vereesa Windrunner that rejects the admission of blood elves into the Kirin Tor. They are the most active group of the high elves in WoW. participated in Quel'Delar reforging and in Argent Tournament.

Later in Cataclysm the Silver Covenant temporarily joined the Farstriders in Quel'Thalas against the Amani trolls. Meanwhile, the Rangers of Quel'Lithien lodge were turned into the Wretched because of the cursed artifact their leader brought.

In MoP the Covenant participated in the Purge of Dalaran against the blood elves and became the main military force in the Army of Kirin Tor during later campaign on the Isle of Thunder.

And, finally, during the campaign against the Legion the Silver Covenant joined the Farstriders and the Sentinels under the banner of the Unseen Path and later participated in attack on Suramar city. High elves also were a part of Kirin Tor and Tirisgarde. Besides, Alleria Windrunner was founded on Argus on the final stages of Legion campaign.

[Cosmico]

Allerian Stronghold in Terrokar Forest is a settlement of Sons of Lothar in Outland, founded by the high elves from the Alliance Expedition during the Second War. Auric Sunchaser is its leader, and his Rangers fought against Bonechewers orcs and Illidari blood elves.

In Wrath, elven battlemages fought in the 7th Legion of the Alliance in Northrend (and later during the Fourth War). But the most active quel'dorei group in WoW is the Silver Covenant - a militant core of high elves under the banner of Vereesa Windrunner that rejects the admission of blood elves into the Kirin Tor. They are the most active group of the high elves in WoW. participated in Quel'Delar reforging and in Argent Tournament.

Later in Cataclysm the Silver Covenant temporarily joined the Farstriders in Quel'Thalas against the Amani trolls. Meanwhile, the Rangers of Quel'Lithien lodge were turned into the Wretched because of the cursed artifact their leader brought.

In MoP the Covenant participated in the Purge of Dalaran against the blood elves and became the main military force in the Army of Kirin Tor during later campaign on the Isle of Thunder.

And, finally, during the campaign against the Legion the Silver Covenant joined the Farstriders and the Sentinels under the banner of the Unseen Path and later participated in attack on Suramar city. High elves also were a part of Kirin Tor and Tirisgarde. Besides, Alleria Windrunner was found alive on Argus on the final stages of Legion campaign.

This means all the main quel'dorei involvement was the silver covenant. Before wotlk there was no important or relevant quel'dorei participation in the lore. This is bad writing to me. You can't simply make a considerable amount of adult warriors to fight out of the blue.

Their story was neglected, they were forgotten, or they were foreshadowed. Whatever the reason is, nothing makes sense at all.

[Dracarusggotham]

Allerian Stronghold in Terrokar Forest is a settlement of Sons of Lothar in Outland, founded by the high elves from the Alliance Expedition during the Second War. Auric Sunchaser is its leader, and his Rangers fought against Bonechewers orcs and Illidari blood elves.

In Wrath, elven battlemages fought in the 7th Legion of the Alliance in Northrend (and later during the Fourth War). But the most active quel'dorei group in WoW is the Silver Covenant - a militant core of high elves under the banner of Vereesa Windrunner that rejects the admission of blood elves into the Kirin Tor. They are the most active group of the high elves in WoW. participated in Quel'Delar reforging and in Argent Tournament.

Later in Cataclysm the Silver Covenant temporarily joined the Farstriders in Quel'Thalas against the Amani trolls. Meanwhile, the Rangers of Quel'Lithien lodge were turned into the Wretched because of the cursed artifact their leader brought.

In MoP the Covenant participated in the Purge of Dalaran against the blood elves and became the main military force in the Army of Kirin Tor during later campaign on the Isle of Thunder.

And, finally, during the campaign against the Legion the Silver Covenant joined the Farstriders and the Sentinels under the banner of the Unseen Path and later participated in attack on Suramar city. High elves also were a part of Kirin Tor and Tirisgarde. Besides, Alleria Windrunner was found alive on Argus on the final stages of Legion campaign.

This means all the main quel'dorei involvement was the silver covenant. Before wotlk there was no important or relevant quel'dorei participation in the lore. This is bad writing to me. You can't simply make a considerable amount of adult warriors to fight out of the blue.

Their story was neglected, they were forgotten, or they were foreshadowed. Whatever the reason is, nothing makes sense at all.

I hope this helps:
Basically, Blizzard mostly extinguished the High Elves from all major WoW lore from TBC to the present. Literally, very few High Elves remain relevant.

Their greatest exponent and core, as mentioned, is the Silver Covenant. Outside of that, they're null or nonexistent, irrelevant to the point that it's now forgotten that Blood Elves are High Elves by birth.

Even more so with the mediocre inclusion of the Void Elves, they tried to please Alliance players who had requested the inclusion of the Quel'dorei in WoW since TBC, thus killing the little hope and relevance the High Elves had.

They've had little participation, only a few settlements in TBC.

In WotLK, the Silver Covenant, which ultimately played no major role in the finale.

From Cataclysm to Warlords of Draenor, there was nothing remarkable about it.

In Legion and BfA, it was the Silver Covenant again, and from then on, they were almost completely replaced by the Ren'dorei in the Alliance.

It's sad how everything went down the drain because of a poorly executed retcon in TBC to favor the Horde, turning a noble race that would rather die than collaborate with genocidal thugs into mana-addicted, genocidal maniacs, since the Blood Elves were the ones who created the Mana Bomb used to destroy Theramore, killing several innocent people, including their own race.

[Cosmico]

Allerian Stronghold in Terrokar Forest is a settlement of Sons of Lothar in Outland, founded by the high elves from the Alliance Expedition during the Second War. Auric Sunchaser is its leader, and his Rangers fought against Bonechewers orcs and Illidari blood elves.

In Wrath, elven battlemages fought in the 7th Legion of the Alliance in Northrend (and later during the Fourth War). But the most active quel'dorei group in WoW is the Silver Covenant - a militant core of high elves under the banner of Vereesa Windrunner that rejects the admission of blood elves into the Kirin Tor. They are the most active group of the high elves in WoW. participated in Quel'Delar reforging and in Argent Tournament.

Later in Cataclysm the Silver Covenant temporarily joined the Farstriders in Quel'Thalas against the Amani trolls. Meanwhile, the Rangers of Quel'Lithien lodge were turned into the Wretched because of the cursed artifact their leader brought.

In MoP the Covenant participated in the Purge of Dalaran against the blood elves and became the main military force in the Army of Kirin Tor during later campaign on the Isle of Thunder.

And, finally, during the campaign against the Legion the Silver Covenant joined the Farstriders and the Sentinels under the banner of the Unseen Path and later participated in attack on Suramar city. High elves also were a part of Kirin Tor and Tirisgarde. Besides, Alleria Windrunner was found alive on Argus on the final stages of Legion campaign.

This means all the main quel'dorei involvement was the silver covenant. Before wotlk there was no important or relevant quel'dorei participation in the lore. This is bad writing to me. You can't simply make a considerable amount of adult warriors to fight out of the blue.

Their story was neglected, they were forgotten, or they were foreshadowed. Whatever the reason is, nothing makes sense at all.

I hope this helps:
Basically, Blizzard mostly extinguished the High Elves from all major WoW lore from TBC to the present. Literally, very few High Elves remain relevant.

Their greatest exponent and core, as mentioned, is the Silver Covenant. Outside of that, they're null or nonexistent, irrelevant to the point that it's now forgotten that Blood Elves are High Elves by birth.

Even more so with the mediocre inclusion of the Void Elves, they tried to please Alliance players who had requested the inclusion of the Quel'dorei in WoW since TBC, thus killing the little hope and relevance the High Elves had.

They've had little participation, only a few settlements in TBC.

In WotLK, the Silver Covenant, which ultimately played no major role in the finale.

From Cataclysm to Warlords of Draenor, there was nothing remarkable about it.

In Legion and BfA, it was the Silver Covenant again, and from then on, they were almost completely replaced by the Ren'dorei in the Alliance.

It's sad how everything went down the drain because of a poorly executed retcon in TBC to favor the Horde, turning a noble race that would rather die than collaborate with genocidal thugs into mana-addicted, genocidal maniacs, since the Blood Elves were the ones who created the Mana Bomb used to destroy Theramore, killing several innocent people, including their own race.

I agree. Whatever was the agenda from TBC to the modern days, the objective was either to hide or to destroy the image of the high elves. In exchange they praised and revered the kaldorei which I think they're serving the old gods. It has little sense that malfurion, a totally bad written character with overestimated powers and relevance has gotten so much time in the spotlight. How tyrande another awfully written character who got no justice in their dialogs and storytelling, was raised to the point of almost embracing the divinity through elune's blessings. And we just avoid talking at all how they virtually made a satanist cult around the image of Illidan as a hero, a night elf btw. If you remember the tempest keep, how kaelthas himself stroke a crystal of fel power into his chest to empower himself out of complete defeat in attempt to keep fighting you'd say that's shameful but Illidan instead was heroic in his methods. I believe the story needed a race to geopardize the whole fanatism the elves had and they used them for that purpose. You'd say it's nuts, but it sounds like a very racist thing to me. I know it sounds crazy one talk about racism to a race that has clearly white skin tones, but you know, everything in this world happens for weird and odd it can be. The way everything went for quel'dorei was intentional. Possibly and just possibly they were used as a stereotype of villain to be related to germans and demolished accordingly. Because one sees the similarities but I cannot but question myself, why didn't they simply creat a new race for that, why taking an existing race and rip their story to accomplish that goal?

[Dracarusggotham]

This means all the main quel'dorei involvement was the silver covenant. Before wotlk there was no important or relevant quel'dorei participation in the lore. This is bad writing to me. You can't simply make a considerable amount of adult warriors to fight out of the blue.

Their story was neglected, they were forgotten, or they were foreshadowed. Whatever the reason is, nothing makes sense at all.

I hope this helps:
Basically, Blizzard mostly extinguished the High Elves from all major WoW lore from TBC to the present. Literally, very few High Elves remain relevant.

Their greatest exponent and core, as mentioned, is the Silver Covenant. Outside of that, they're null or nonexistent, irrelevant to the point that it's now forgotten that Blood Elves are High Elves by birth.

Even more so with the mediocre inclusion of the Void Elves, they tried to please Alliance players who had requested the inclusion of the Quel'dorei in WoW since TBC, thus killing the little hope and relevance the High Elves had.

They've had little participation, only a few settlements in TBC.

In WotLK, the Silver Covenant, which ultimately played no major role in the finale.

From Cataclysm to Warlords of Draenor, there was nothing remarkable about it.

In Legion and BfA, it was the Silver Covenant again, and from then on, they were almost completely replaced by the Ren'dorei in the Alliance.

It's sad how everything went down the drain because of a poorly executed retcon in TBC to favor the Horde, turning a noble race that would rather die than collaborate with genocidal thugs into mana-addicted, genocidal maniacs, since the Blood Elves were the ones who created the Mana Bomb used to destroy Theramore, killing several innocent people, including their own race.

I agree. Whatever was the agenda from TBC to the modern days, the objective was either to hide or to destroy the image of the high elves. In exchange they praised and revered the kaldorei which I think they're serving the old gods. It has little sense that malfurion, a totally bad written character with overestimated powers and relevance has gotten so much time in the spotlight. How tyrande another awfully written character who got no justice in their dialogs and storytelling, was raised to the point of almost embracing the divinity through elune's blessings. And we just avoid talking at all how they virtually made a satanist cult around the image of Illidan as a hero, a night elf btw. If you remember the tempest keep, how kaelthas himself stroke a crystal of fel power into his chest to empower himself out of complete defeat in attempt to keep fighting you'd say that's shameful but Illidan instead was heroic in his methods. I believe the story needed a race to geopardize the whole fanatism the elves had and they used them for that purpose. You'd say it's nuts, but it sounds like a very racist thing to me. I know it sounds crazy one talk about racism to a race that has clearly white skin tones, but you know, everything in this world happens for weird and odd it can be. The way everything went for quel'dorei was intentional. Possibly and just possibly they were used as a stereotype of villain to be related to germans and demolished accordingly. Because one sees the similarities but I cannot but question myself, why didn't they simply creat a new race for that, why taking an existing race and rip their story to accomplish that goal?

Let's also not forget the unreasonable attack by the Night Elves and the Dwarves on the Elves of Quel'thalas.

It was literally a justification pulled out of thin air because they never give context as to why they want to destroy the Blood Elves.

The thing is, everything revolving around the Quel'dorei/Sin'dorei interacting with the Kaldorei borders on absurd nonsense.

In Warcraft 3, Tyrande helps Kael'thas, and in WoW, the Kaldorei hate the Sin'dorei and despise the Quel'dorei.

After playing Turtle WoW, I no longer feel like playing any WoW expansions because I'm forced to see a race I like on a side that makes no sense, with a ridiculous story, and, to make matters worse, one of the most played races anywhere.

It pains me, because honestly, TBC and WotLK have good mapping and good dungeons, but the Quel'dorei story is that scumbag that tarnishes the rest and, at least for me, prevents me from enjoying either of those two expansions.

I love Outland, I love Northrend, I love Quel'thalas...I hate the Sin'dorei...I hate what Blizzard did to them.

[Ethenil]

I have long held the headcanon that the reason the night elves are hostile to and spying on the blood elves in TBC Quel'Thalas is because the Draenei starting zone happens before the Blood Elf one.

This means that the night elves would have learned from the draenei that blood elves under the command of Kael’thas have aligned themselves with demons and are doing a lot of evil stuff on Outland. It would follow that the night elves would then want to know what the hell is going on in Quel'Thalas. Just a headcanon to make TBC make more sense.

As for blood elves on the Horde... I believe it makes a lot of sense for the blood elves to ally with the Forsaken. What I don't like is the Forsaken in the Horde in the first place.

[Volkyte]

I have long held the headcanon that the reason the night elves are hostile to and spying on the blood elves in TBC Quel'Thalas is because the Draenei starting zone happens before the Blood Elf one.

This means that the night elves would have learned from the draenei that blood elves under the command of Kael’thas have aligned themselves with demons and are doing a lot of evil stuff on Outland. It would follow that the night elves would then want to know what the hell is going on in Quel'Thalas. Just a headcanon to make TBC make more sense.

As for blood elves on the Horde... I believe it makes a lot of sense for the blood elves to ally with the Forsaken. What I don't like is the Forsaken in the Horde in the first place.

forsaken were made horde faction to avoid a 3 faction game back in the day.
in theory factions should be something like
alliance
horde
forsaken
blood elves->burning legion aligned
lich king forces

[Cosmico]

I hope this helps:
Basically, Blizzard mostly extinguished the High Elves from all major WoW lore from TBC to the present. Literally, very few High Elves remain relevant.

Their greatest exponent and core, as mentioned, is the Silver Covenant. Outside of that, they're null or nonexistent, irrelevant to the point that it's now forgotten that Blood Elves are High Elves by birth.

Even more so with the mediocre inclusion of the Void Elves, they tried to please Alliance players who had requested the inclusion of the Quel'dorei in WoW since TBC, thus killing the little hope and relevance the High Elves had.

They've had little participation, only a few settlements in TBC.

In WotLK, the Silver Covenant, which ultimately played no major role in the finale.

From Cataclysm to Warlords of Draenor, there was nothing remarkable about it.

In Legion and BfA, it was the Silver Covenant again, and from then on, they were almost completely replaced by the Ren'dorei in the Alliance.

It's sad how everything went down the drain because of a poorly executed retcon in TBC to favor the Horde, turning a noble race that would rather die than collaborate with genocidal thugs into mana-addicted, genocidal maniacs, since the Blood Elves were the ones who created the Mana Bomb used to destroy Theramore, killing several innocent people, including their own race.

I agree. Whatever was the agenda from TBC to the modern days, the objective was either to hide or to destroy the image of the high elves. In exchange they praised and revered the kaldorei which I think they're serving the old gods. It has little sense that malfurion, a totally bad written character with overestimated powers and relevance has gotten so much time in the spotlight. How tyrande another awfully written character who got no justice in their dialogs and storytelling, was raised to the point of almost embracing the divinity through elune's blessings. And we just avoid talking at all how they virtually made a satanist cult around the image of Illidan as a hero, a night elf btw. If you remember the tempest keep, how kaelthas himself stroke a crystal of fel power into his chest to empower himself out of complete defeat in attempt to keep fighting you'd say that's shameful but Illidan instead was heroic in his methods. I believe the story needed a race to geopardize the whole fanatism the elves had and they used them for that purpose. You'd say it's nuts, but it sounds like a very racist thing to me. I know it sounds crazy one talk about racism to a race that has clearly white skin tones, but you know, everything in this world happens for weird and odd it can be. The way everything went for quel'dorei was intentional. Possibly and just possibly they were used as a stereotype of villain to be related to germans and demolished accordingly. Because one sees the similarities but I cannot but question myself, why didn't they simply creat a new race for that, why taking an existing race and rip their story to accomplish that goal?

Let's also not forget the unreasonable attack by the Night Elves and the Dwarves on the Elves of Quel'thalas.

It was literally a justification pulled out of thin air because they never give context as to why they want to destroy the Blood Elves.

The thing is, everything revolving around the Quel'dorei/Sin'dorei interacting with the Kaldorei borders on absurd nonsense.

In Warcraft 3, Tyrande helps Kael'thas, and in WoW, the Kaldorei hate the Sin'dorei and despise the Quel'dorei.

After playing Turtle WoW, I no longer feel like playing any WoW expansions because I'm forced to see a race I like on a side that makes no sense, with a ridiculous story, and, to make matters worse, one of the most played races anywhere.

It pains me, because honestly, TBC and WotLK have good mapping and good dungeons, but the Quel'dorei story is that scumbag that tarnishes the rest and, at least for me, prevents me from enjoying either of those two expansions.

I love Outland, I love Northrend, I love Quel'thalas...I hate the Sin'dorei...I hate what Blizzard did to them.

One thing we've learnt from warcraft is: whenever war starts, it doesn't matter the reason and there is no motive to keep it going, because it will continue untill everybody's broke. Let's no try to find any logic into that we're going end up loosing time.

[Cosmico]

I have long held the headcanon that the reason the night elves are hostile to and spying on the blood elves in TBC Quel'Thalas is because the Draenei starting zone happens before the Blood Elf one.

This means that the night elves would have learned from the draenei that blood elves under the command of Kael’thas have aligned themselves with demons and are doing a lot of evil stuff on Outland. It would follow that the night elves would then want to know what the hell is going on in Quel'Thalas. Just a headcanon to make TBC make more sense.

As for blood elves on the Horde... I believe it makes a lot of sense for the blood elves to ally with the Forsaken. What I don't like is the Forsaken in the Horde in the first place.

forsaken were made horde faction to avoid a 3 faction game back in the day.
in theory factions should be something like
alliance
horde
forsaken
blood elves->burning legion aligned
lich king forces

I agree with the blood elves, Kael'thas fell for the fel magic (lol) and he drown all his people with him. Arthas is Nerzul, let's not forget Arthas is gone and we have lots of canonical hints to understand that, he's Nerzul. Nobody who actually thinks that Actually Sylvannas destroyed the helm of domination. There's some of us who won't align with shadowlands at all.

Yet! the forsaken deserves redemption. They were killed by the scourge and also Sylvannas was, but she's mad at this point and there is no more reason in her. Allow me to dissagree with the forsaken. Calia Menethil was the only and best poker retail has played in years. All forsakens should be remade in stone like Calia, it's a story of damnation and suffering from a genocide and the ghosts remaining were cursed to stay living in death. The Chinesse wow community or the regional office prohibited the forsaken to have visibly bone and decay. It's fair we stick to that. AND in case retail denies that destiny of forgiveness for the forsaken, then we just have to disobey retail.

[Volkyte]

retail stopped being lore accurate since tbc release lore wise.

[Cosmico]

retail stopped being lore accurate since tbc release lore wise.

The retcon crusade

[Shapeshifter]

retail stopped being lore accurate since tbc release lore wise.

Like there was ever any "lore accuracy" in this franchise to begin with, Metz*n always suffered from a disease called "not thinking ahead", if he didn't he would've realized that eventually if he and his team keep retconning shit that the entire world they've created will turn into a giant incomprehensible mess (which started all the way back in the rts games already).
I can't remember the exact quote but somebody on plebbit compared the lore of DnD and Warcraft and wrote something along the lines of "If DnD was the world's mythos then Warcraft would be the cliff notes somebody read at 3 am before the test" and that shit is 100% true.