Longer Paladin Buff Duration

[Razar52]

Because it is really annoying to stop the group so I can rebuff the whole party after every couple pulls.

At least from 5 min to 10 min or something.

[Inovatu]

would be awesome, yes

[Jammyxx]

Makes no sense why this hasn't changed
What does it achieve in keeping them at 5 mins?

Normal blessings 15min
Greater blessings 30min

Make it happen.

[Geojak]

You would be surprised. There is multiple page hotly debates thread on the forum about this very, same topic from around half a ywar ago with people pationsrly arguing against it (not me) and why this, ruins the server or something

[Elenar]

nah, you think would be better, but then when it's longer you can't really appreciate it's duration short while after. Short buff duration adds variety, and it's paladin's nature. If you get rid of short buffs, you get rid of that.

Beside I don't want to see people running with 30min Blessing of Kings, Wisom or Might. Ask warrior about that who gets 2min shout ?
You value it more when it's 5min.

[Tasman]

10 min buffs would be fair compromise. No too long and not too short. And it will help a lot in 5 man instances.

[Ravenstone]

Honestly, the only reason for wanting to increase it is out of pure laziness. Paladins have some of the best buffs in the game, and you have Greater Blessings for the only time its actually detrimental. There is nothing wrong with the duration of normal Blessings.

[Urimeli]

i agree with this, tanking as a paladin having to rebuff every 15 minutes really slows everything down and is a waste of time

[Freddofooz]

Please, i beg.

[Inovatu]

i would appreciate and value palabuffs more, if i dont have to buff every 5 Minutes
short palabuffs add nothing to the game.
If you dont want to see People with 30 Minute Buffs, you could implement a feature which get rid of the big palabuffs, when this person leaves the group, like in wotlk/retail
and the argument with the warrior shout is kinda dumb... you buff your entire group with one Battleshout at the cost of 10 Rage.
A Paladin has to buff every person and every single buff costs about 100-120 Mana...

[Mavbyte]

Hm.. usually I'd agreed on that topic. But I will neither agree Nor disagree with that right now, But Show some minor/small Details ppl seem to Miss:

If we increase the duration of smaller Blessings we have to increase of greater Blessings as Well, cuz 5min difference would be pointless.
If we increase the duration of greater Blessings, er decrease the amount of Times Paladine need to rebuff, which lowers the usage of reagents. Now calculate it Up to Like... 300 or 400 Times you have to rebuff less? which means you'll save a Lot of Money over time, which would be unfair towards Other Classes who also need to Spend Money in reagents..

Y'know.. Just a small Detail that should be considered as Well.

[Kairion]

I dont see the difference of "only gaining 5 extra minutes on the greater blessing" being a hindrance for using greater blessings. Buffing once costs 1.5 silver. So there is no real gold argument, but the difference of buffing 9 times orm40 times is definitely still a noticeable upside for greater ones.

[Ugoboom]

The original reason that pally buffs were 5 minutes, was so that rets' role would basically be to autoattack the boss, and buff the entire 40man raid in a loop. It was really a support class whose job was to constantly adapt to the situation handing out new buffs constantly.

This roll was loss midway through vanilla, with the 15min blessings. Now, you prebuff and dont waste mana maintaining mid combat buffs, other than the odd bop here and there.

There is no longer any reason why normal buffs shouldn't be 30 mins, and greaters 60 minutes, to reach parity with other similar class buffs.

[Kairion]

30 mins for the big buffs is plenty. We dont want to make it too convinient buffing the raid on a pally and then switching to another character ;)

After all paladin buffs are quite strong as is, only being held back by their duration

[Ugoboom]

30 mins for the big buffs is plenty. We dont want to make it too convinient buffing the raid on a pally and then switching to another character ;)

After all paladin buffs are quite strong as is, only being held back by their duration

Unlike priest and druid buffs, Pally buffs already drop the moment the pally, or the buffed person, leaves the raid, similar to how totems become unavail the moment they leave.

30/60 mins on the buffs. 0 reason not to.

[Kairion]

Oh interesting, didnt know that

[Karrados]

That would only really fly if they increased the mana cost by a lot. Paladin Blessings were designed to be low cost, low duration but high effect.

[Mekunekud]

30 mins for the big buffs is plenty. We dont want to make it too convinient buffing the raid on a pally and then switching to another character ;)

After all paladin buffs are quite strong as is, only being held back by their duration

Unlike priest and druid buffs, Pally buffs already drop the moment the pally, or the buffed person, leaves the raid, similar to how totems become unavail the moment they leave.

30/60 mins on the buffs. 0 reason not to.

As far as I remember, only greater blessings drop off when you leave group, like auras etc. Normal ones stick around hence you can run around the world buffing players and giving them extra mp/5 or AP.
I'd say giving 15 minutes on both is fine and Greater Blessing just a convenience feature. Smooths out levelling, 5 mans pre 60 and generally everything bar raids, where it changes nothing aside from if you need a specific buff on someone like Sanctuary or BoLight.

[Bloodline1x9]

30 min buff will be too long cuz ppl will ask buff for leveling. It will be stupid.
Then they will ask to make a buffer NPS in the capital.

But 5 min is really short. 10-15 min will be enough. Do 12 minutes all pala buffs and 45 min great raid buffs

[Inovatu]

10/20 Mins is okay
15/30 Mins also okay
no need to even longer
But 5 on the single ones is bad