Add level requirement to bandages

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Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Xudo » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:43 am

Currently Expert First Aid - Under Wraps
requires only 150 first aid to learn.
In the same time, Heavy Runecloth Bandage require only 225 level to use.
It means player can use top bandages at lvl 19.
For example PvP consumabes have strict level requirement.
Highlander\'s Runecloth Bandage require 45 lvl
Highlander\'s Mageweave Bandage require 35 lvl
Highlander\'s Silk Bandage require 25 lvl.

My proposal is to add level requirement to bandages. Make it similar to PvP consumables.
Silk Bandage should require 20 lvl.
Heavy Silk Bandage should require 25 lvl.
Mageweave Bandage should require 30 lvl.
Heavy Mageweave Bandage should require 35 lvl.
Heavy Runecloth Bandage should require 45 lvl.
Runecloth Bandage should require 50 lvl.

My reasons:
1. This change fits a concept of using consumables and buffs of appropriate level. All potions require specific player level. Low level players can't drink high level potions. All grenades require specific engineering skill. Low level players can't use high level grenades.
2. This change will reduce the gap between twinks and non-twinks. It will lead to more fair play in low level PvP.
Xudo - tauren warrior 19 Sergeant armory.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Ugoboom » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:30 pm

+1 to this and other related changes like wbuff removal for BGs, wbuffs are fine for wpvp as over level allies can police wbuffed twinkers.
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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Akarui » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:00 pm

+1. low lvl pvp pedofiles spoils all fun by lowlvl bg

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Unchallenged » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:46 am

Leave it as it is.

Just because someone else min/maxes doesn’t mean everything needs to settle for average and dull. I’m not a min maxer but if ppl feel encouraged to take the extra step, why stop them?
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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Xudo » Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:50 am

Unchallenged wrote:
Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:46 am
Just because someone else min/maxes doesn’t mean everything needs to settle for average and dull. I’m not a min maxer but if ppl feel encouraged to take the extra step, why stop them?
I don't propose to stop minmaxers. I propose to remove power, which is unobtainable without high level character or massive gold investment.
I propose it to allow regular levellers successfully participate in low level battlegrounds.
Right now, people try to join, see bunch of unkillable twinks and don't join anymore.
Bandages are one of the power I propose to remove. Other is high level enchants. Third is unobtainable items.

If people want to minmax his character, he still can stop xp and go get top gear from dungeons, complete high-level quests, get fishing hat (it is obtainable by low level alone), go engineering, hoard tons of consumables for his level.
There is enough room for minmaxing without bandages and enchants.
Xudo - tauren warrior 19 Sergeant armory.
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Ugoboom » Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:43 pm

Unchallenged wrote:
Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:46 am
Leave it as it is.

Just because someone else min/maxes doesn’t mean everything needs to settle for average and dull. I’m not a min maxer but if ppl feel encouraged to take the extra step, why stop them?
to make leveling pvp not a total trashcan dumpsterfire of twinking. It's not viable nor optimal for someone to minmax runecloth bandages while lv 10. It's only something being done by twinks. You should play the game more to see how it works and how players abuse systems like this, and then you will surely agree with us.
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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Apimius » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:37 pm

+1

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Xudo » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:19 am

I suddenly found Crystal Infused Bandage in database
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=23684
they also require 225 First Aid and don't have level requirement.

If turtle devs going to add even more powerful bandages, then I ask them to add level requirement at least for them.
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Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Geojak » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:24 am

Been in the database for ages, not ingame, probably won't be anytime soon if ever

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=9 ... d-bandages

Blizzard wanted to add these in Sillothus aq patch but decided last minute against it.
Rmeber those dusts you could collect in Sillithus and then you had to go to the camp collector and got pvp flagged, those dust were meant as crafting requirement.
Blizzard never added it.

Additionally twow removed the dusts completely in Sillithus

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Atreidon » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:52 pm

Of all the interactions twinks can use, i dont think bandages are the problematic ones if i am completely honest.

As much as people shit on twinks, outgearing is unfortunately something that happens at all levels of wow pvp. With the only difference being that at low levels a dedicated player (with a lvl 60 char) can farm his pvp alt bis gear solo or in very small parties in a couple of days/weeks, as opposed to the months of raiding a high level character can require to reach the point where he can no longer get outgeared...

Its exactly the same mechanics as high lvl pvp except the barrier for low lvl pvp alts is much lower.

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Re: Add level requirement to bandages

Post by Xudo » Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:22 pm

Atreidon wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:52 pm
Of all the interactions twinks can use, i dont think bandages are the problematic ones if i am completely honest.

As much as people shit on twinks, outgearing is unfortunately something that happens at all levels of wow pvp. With the only difference being that at low levels a dedicated player (with a lvl 60 char) can farm his pvp alt bis gear solo or in very small parties in a couple of days/weeks, as opposed to the months of raiding a high level character can require to reach the point where he can no longer get outgeared...

Its exactly the same mechanics as high lvl pvp except the barrier for low lvl pvp alts is much lower.
Yeah. I actually agree that overgearing is a problem of whole Vanilla PvP. I also insist on better gearing path for lvl 60 too.
With naxx opened, PvP career is "go grind t3 and then go pvp". I believe it can be much more gradual. Like you gain PvP gear/rep/rank progression as you level your character. This will be in line with whole turtle spirit of journey in the world and meaningful leveling.

Bandages are least concerning problem compared to high level enchants. Blue gear from dungeons is not a problem for low lvl pvp. I think it is fine when people stop xp and do some action in dungeons to get some blues. Though If they would be rewarded with blues for direct PvP, it will be much better. But I don't expect that much.
Xudo - tauren warrior 19 Sergeant armory.
I don't raid and rank, so you can not bother asking.
Nerf high level enchants on low level gear
Add lvl requirement to bandages
Best and optimal gear for 10-19 twinks
Have fun not only at 60.

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