high elf racial for nonmana classes.

[Feomatar]

Ehr, i dont know who make such a thing, but extremly low rage\energy regeneration on a channeling spell is just suck a huge tauren ballsack. In pve its useless in pvp its useless (maybe for rogue where your target in gouge once in full moon and still nope) . Why not make it as what it is on description on a website? 25% of hp (ok maybe even 20) its just something, but current version is just bad, its useless for nonmana classes, literally race withot racial. I know that its kind of elf taxe, but its 2 much, this racial is non existing for warriors and rogues.

[Geojak]

You are wrong for warriors. The racial is amazing prepull for tanks to get initial rage.

I guess it's rly shit for rogues

[Feomatar]

You are wrong for warriors. The racial is amazing prepull for tanks to get initial rage.

I guess it's rly shit for rogues

And not for tanks?

[Geojak]

Then you have the Nighelf situation. Basically playing without a racial (Nighelf have 1% dodge)
So nothing out of the ordinary

[Feomatar]

Then you have the Nighelf situation. Basically playing without a racial (Nighelf have 1% dodge)
So nothing out of the ordinary

But ne stealth is usefull in pvp, and hight elf is both in pve and pvp is garbage.

[Geojak]

Just roll human like everybody else then

[Feomatar]

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

[Balake]

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

To be fair, playing high elves is the second most bland race in a fantasy game after humans

[Feomatar]

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

To be fair, playing high elves is the second most bland race in a fantasy game after humans

nope

[Geojak]

someone proposed adding sword skill to highels as a racial.

as a highelf in real life, i am ALL FOR IT (joking, i am not into drugs)

if you are adventures could even do:

dwarf should get mace racial imo
gnomes could get dagger racial
nighelfs get polearm racial
tauren get mace racial
undead get sword racial
trolls get staff racial
goblins mace racial is changed to fistweapon

now everyone has some kinds of meele weapon racial
both factions have atleast one race per sword, axe, dagger and mace racial
nighelf have polearm fitting their glaves, goblins get fist and trolls stav roundig of all meele weapons

[Feomatar]

someone proposed adding sword skill to highels as a racial.

as a highelf in real life, i am ALL FOR IT (joking, i am not into drugs)

if you are adventures could even do:

dwarf should get mace racial imo
gnomes could get dagger racial
nighelfs get polearm racial
tauren get mace racial
undead get sword racial
trolls get staff racial
goblins mace racial is changed to fistweapon

now everyone has some kinds of meele weapon racial
both factions have atleast one race per sword, axe, dagger and mace racial
nighelf have polearm fitting their glaves, goblins get fist and trolls stav roundig of all meele weapons

I'm not asking for 100% balanced racial, but at least somehow usefull in somewhere. mana gain to mana classes are ok, but rage\energy for nonmana classes is just pure shit, in blizzwow it worked cause it was silence + INSTANT recources thats why its worked ok, but channeling rage\energy is useless both pve and pvp, give 20% hp regen and it will be something at least.

[Gladeshadow]

You were already told the channel is useful for warriors, regardless of spec, to channel some rage between fights. It's admittedly pretty junky on rogues, who could use the ability to generate a tiny amount of energy during a gouge, blind, or other disable, but even then 20 energy is not at all equal to 20 rage or 20% of mana. However, that still makes it a useful racial for 5/6 classes, which is great for any racial. It's not like all orcs use pet mastery. Or bow specialization on a troll who is a class that can't use bows. Many other examples abound. This seems like a minor issue in light of these other factors.

[Isvya]

You are upset bcs the spell was made to restore mana RAGE and ENERGY. If it only restored mana to begin with you would not care, high elf afterall is a mana user race.
Just to give you a counter agruement blood fury does nothing for mages hunters and lock.... Noone cares.
There are specific race/class combos that are better for a reason and others worse. HE is just worse for melees thats it.

[Feomatar]

You were already told the channel is useful for warriors, regardless of spec, to channel some rage between fights. It's admittedly pretty junky on rogues, who could use the ability to generate a tiny amount of energy during a gouge, blind, or other disable, but even then 20 energy is not at all equal to 20 rage or 20% of mana. However, that still makes it a useful racial for 5/6 classes, which is great for any racial. It's not like all orcs use pet mastery. Or bow specialization on a troll who is a class that can't use bows. Many other examples abound. This seems like a minor issue in light of these other factors.

Yea, trolls haste is so useless for any classes, and orc stun resist and damage is so bad as a pet bonus... Dude you just delusional.

[Feomatar]

You are upset bcs the spell was made to restore mana RAGE and ENERGY. If it only restored mana to begin with you would not care, high elf afterall is a mana user race.
Just to give you a counter agruement blood fury does nothing for mages hunters and lock.... Noone cares.
There are specific race/class combos that are better for a reason and others worse. HE is just worse for melees thats it.

Stun resistance? pet damage?

[Talenne]

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

Tbh I've never felt this way playing any of my human characters, I guess part of it is that I don't make them look like me but what I wish I could be, which is pretty much a staple of every race.

WoW humans aren't even anything like RL humans anyway, especially not the retail ones that came from space robot vikings with a Lovecraftian skin condition which is probably why they look more unrealistically jacked out than anyone I see irl.

[Isvya]

You are upset bcs the spell was made to restore mana RAGE and ENERGY. If it only restored mana to begin with you would not care, high elf afterall is a mana user race.
Just to give you a counter agruement blood fury does nothing for mages hunters and lock.... Noone cares.
There are specific race/class combos that are better for a reason and others worse. HE is just worse for melees thats it.

Stun resistance? pet damage?

you were talking about 1 specific racial ability, i mentioned another one. HE also has other passives...
also how is pet damage any useful for warriors and rogues? devs pls fix

[Bloodline1x9]

This is a very poor skill due to its cast time.
I write this as a mage. As a last resort, mages have an emergency active class skill to replenish mana that works three times better. And if not in combat then easier for me to just drink some water.
Thus, to be honest this skill is almost useless for mages. Rogues have it even worse! Useless for them. And for hunters.
This is a normal skill for warriors. Before starting the pull or standing in the frostnova.
But the racial ability should be such that it gives something to all classes.

The best fast rework at the moment, I see a reduction in use channeling time to 3 seconds.

[Gantulga]

You are wrong for warriors. The racial is amazing prepull for tanks to get initial rage.

I guess it's rly shit for rogues

It's useless to rogues but the same goes for the night elf racial. Both elf rogues basically have no racials, how sad.

[Isvya]

You are wrong for warriors. The racial is amazing prepull for tanks to get initial rage.

I guess it's rly shit for rogues

It's useless to rogues but the same goes for the night elf racial. Both elf rogues basically have no racials, how sad.

night elf does increase your stealth level doesnt it?

[Gantulga]

Yeah but it's not really relevant and you have no active racial.

[Feomatar]

You are upset bcs the spell was made to restore mana RAGE and ENERGY. If it only restored mana to begin with you would not care, high elf afterall is a mana user race.
Just to give you a counter agruement blood fury does nothing for mages hunters and lock.... Noone cares.
There are specific race/class combos that are better for a reason and others worse. HE is just worse for melees thats it.

Stun resistance? pet damage?

you were talking about 1 specific racial ability, i mentioned another one. HE also has other passives...
also how is pet damage any useful for warriors and rogues? devs pls fix

Are you retard or what? EACH of orc actives and passives better than BOTH active and passive hight elf racial. Its one of 2, or u just troll or imbecile if u dont see this.

[Isvya]

Stun resistance? pet damage?

you were talking about 1 specific racial ability, i mentioned another one. HE also has other passives...
also how is pet damage any useful for warriors and rogues? devs pls fix

Are you retard or what? EACH of orc actives and passives better than BOTH active and passive hight elf racial. Its one of 2, or u just troll or imbecile if u dont see this.

Lmaooo you are a special guy blinded by your own theory and dont understand what we are talking about.... Mad at the same time and arrogant... Or just the biggest troll
Not even sure why are u insulting me
It has been pointed out by others aswell that HE racial is just fine and u still dont understand why.
This whole topic is a big joke btw, im out talking to a wall.

[Isvya]

edited bcs accidentally posted the same msg 3 times

[Isvya]

[Geojak]

Lmaooo you are a special guy blinded by your own theory and dont understand what we are talking about.... Mad at the same time and arrogant... Or just the biggest troll
Not even sure why are u insulting me
It has been pointed out by others aswell that HE racial is just fine and u still dont understand why.
If you want everything balanced and every class able to do everything then.... Maybe try retail. Vanilla is like this and
play it for a reason.
This whole topic is a big joke btw, im out talking to a wall.

"This whole topic is a big joke btw, im out talking to a wall." pov #pvp-general

[Talenne]

High Elf seems mostly good as a Hunter race and not much else really.

[Geojak]

And raiding warrior tanks.

[Talenne]

This is a very poor skill due to its cast time.
I write this as a mage. As a last resort, mages have an emergency active class skill to replenish mana that works three times better. And if not in combat then easier for me to just drink some water.
Thus, to be honest this skill is almost useless for mages. Rogues have it even worse! Useless for them. And for hunters.
This is a normal skill for warriors. Before starting the pull or standing in the frostnova.
But the racial ability should be such that it gives something to all classes.

The best fast rework at the moment, I see a reduction in use channeling time to 3 seconds.

I wish it worked like Gift of fhe Naaru but heals mana instead, that would probably be too good though.

[Allwynd01]

I play a Paladin, so the racial does something for me, it doesn't replenish enough mana, but replenishes some and I think it's one of the best racials in the game for leveling as it reduces the downtime. If it gives Warriors some Rage or Rogues some Energy, I don't see what the complaint is. It already has a really low cooldown time and replenishes a major resource. Even other racials like Bloodrage, Berserking or Stoneform can be jealous of how much better the Meditation is.

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

When I a kid and saw WoW for the first time and wanted to play, I thought Horde looked like ugly beasts and one has to be a boring 40 year old uncle to play a Human, so I played Night Elf or Dwarf. Now that I'm not a kid anymore, I'm perfectly fine with playing a Human, I guess it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. But I play a High Elf instead, because I played Humans too much. xD

[Geojak]

To get back on the topic.

How about sword skil.

Ovsivously I am not biased and don't play a highelf Paladin, so I am the saned person I nthe server to make this reman.

Just imagine... high... elf... With... Sword skill!

Yes why not.

I am greedy, I smelled blood, I want it!

[Feomatar]

I play a Paladin, so the racial does something for me, it doesn't replenish enough mana, but replenishes some and I think it's one of the best racials in the game for leveling as it reduces the downtime. If it gives Warriors some Rage or Rogues some Energy, I don't see what the complaint is. It already has a really low cooldown time and replenishes a major resource. Even other racials like Bloodrage, Berserking or Stoneform can be jealous of how much better the Meditation is.

Just roll human like everybody else then

Playing human in phantasy game its like jerk off in orgy....

When I a kid and saw WoW for the first time and wanted to play, I thought Horde looked like ugly beasts and one has to be a boring 40 year old uncle to play a Human, so I played Night Elf or Dwarf. Now that I'm not a kid anymore, I'm perfectly fine with playing a Human, I guess it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. But I play a High Elf instead, because I played Humans too much. xD

I said "for nonmana". Its totally useless in pvp for warriors and both in pvp and pve for rogues. Just race without active skill.

[Geojak]

Gnomish warriors are totally without racials except when pvping.

[Keegus]

This whole thread reads like "I don't have the BiS racial, so give me the BiS racial. Here's also some suggestions to give other races items that'll never be used so it doesn't look like I'm just asking for the BiS racial."

[Feomatar]

Gnomish warriors are totally without racials except when pvping.