Remove Hardcore Gravestones Please

[Nanibold]

The gravestones that spawn to mark the death of a hardcore character are a cool idea, however, now that the server has such a huge population, these gravestones are littering the game world to an excessive degree.
To make matters worse some of them even have hit-boxes, which becomes a problem when they're just all over the place.

Please remove them or at least give non-hardcore characters the option to opt-out of seeing them, along with the spammy system messages that inform us whenever a hardcore character levels up or dies.

It's becoming to be a little bit too much now that the server regularly has 2500+ players.

[Ugoboom]

I haven't seen any with hitboxes, but if that's true then yeah big agree those hitboxes should be removed.

big -1 on removing them. no, they are a great addition, just need tuning.

The forumla for how long gravestones last should ideally be something like:
your level in hours
or
hours /played
whichever is lower

So a lv 59 who dies has their gravestone last 2.5 days
and a lv 5 who played 30 mins has their gravestone last 30 mins

the formula the game is actually uses makes them last way way longer and yeah lv 1-10 zones are ungodly littered to where it loses its intrigue immediately

[Ingameacc12345]

^ That's a really good idea! Additionally in my opinion no tombstones should have hitboxes (most that I encountered had them).

[Geojak]

I like the tombs, pls don't remove them

[Nanibold]

Honestly Im all for Ugoboom's idea.

[Nanibold]

Either that or add a minimum level required to leave a gravestone.

[Philipred]

Please, also make System messages about hardcore leveling or dying optional

[Imperium]

I love the tombs and the system messaging, its not really spammy, and the tombs i havent had an issue leveling with them around, the only way i can see them being bothering is if you don't like seeing the physical evidence of where players are dying in droves or how its covering the scenery at times.

[Imonobor]

There is a chat command that can limit the amount of HC messages you see to above a certain level. I have mine set to 30+ and it's not spammy at all.
I can't remember the command, but asking in world chat should work.

[Nivny]

.hc messages <level> might be it

[F41lz0rs]

I dont care where some moron died in hardcore.....

move HC gravestones to a small plot near cap citys have them rotate out as they despawn so we can like RP at teh graveyard..... the Gravestones litter teh world and make it look gross.

[Akarui]

what about instead 10 gravestones on one small territory - make one Mass grave? Or replace old lowlvl graves on a pile of earth just like "ungoro soil" in ungoro crater?
mass single gravestones would be a problem soon)). Because each gravestone is a each single object. How much objects could be in WOW without lagging?)

[Chnams]

I love seeing the gravestones around, hell I wish there were more of them (i assume they get deleted after a while). However I don't think they should have hitboxes. It's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to abuse that and block off an important area, I'm sure of that.

[Aniki22]

I would suggest removing the gravestones, because they negatively affect the gameplay, for example, you walk through wastelands and suddenly meet gravestones somewhere in the wilderness and wonder why they were put here? who? for what?
I would understand if a memorial to all the dead was erected in the capitals, something beautiful.
Moreover, gravestones look in some sense an abuse of game mechanics, since I see, for example, gravestones of level 1 players in locations above 10, for what purpose did the player go there at all? he won't have experience and won't be able to take quests, it's more like a game of who will run away the farthest before dying, well, or when there are a lot of gravestones of the first level in the starting zones, how can you even die at level 1? unless on purpose?

[Philipred]

.hc messages <level> might be it

Thanks but it says "You are not a hardcore player" :S

[Tortugaaaaa]

I absolutely love the gravestones, please don't delete them.
Maybe give people who aren't happy with them a way to hide them, but keep it for us?

Also, if we talk about lowering the duration, I'd say the bare minimum is 1 day per level from level 10 and on.
Imagine dying at 59 and having your gravestone gone in less than 3 days!!!

TOTUGAAAAA

[Whalemilk]

I absolutely love the gravestones, please don't delete them.
Maybe give people who aren't happy with them a way to hide them, but keep it for us?

Also, if we talk about lowering the duration, I'd say the bare minimum is 1 day per level from level 10 and on.
Imagine dying at 59 and having your gravestone gone in less than 3 days!!!

TOTUGAAAAA

Agreed, that seems reasonable to me.

[Shamma]

At what lvl do gravestones become walls? It seems low lvl gravestones are transparent, while higher lvl ones actually have substance (you can stand on them and cannot run through them). Just asking how long will it take to lvl and die to block the entrance to the AH?

[Shamma]

As a alternative suggestion. Move the gravestones and spawn new ones at the closest graveyard (where the ghost would appear), instead of where the character died. That is what graveyards are for after all.

[Ugoboom]

I absolutely love the gravestones, please don't delete them.
Maybe give people who aren't happy with them a way to hide them, but keep it for us?

Also, if we talk about lowering the duration, I'd say the bare minimum is 1 day per level from level 10 and on.
Imagine dying at 59 and having your gravestone gone in less than 3 days!!!

TOTUGAAAAA

i mean, just dont die lol
take your consolation prize and go with it, you arent entitled to a long long long gravestone because you failed the challenge

[Allknighty]

I've read some interesting suggestions.

The idea from F41lz0rs is a great one. An actual graveyard with some tombs is a great idea.

As a HC player myself, I find it hard to get immersed when you encounter that many gravestones...

I don't think those from under lvl 20 deaths should last more than a day (and I say this as a player who has already died 3 times under that lvl). From lvl 21 to 35, they could last for a week, from 36 to 49 2 weeks and from 50 to 59 they would be the tombs at the permanent graveyard.

For the world messages, those who die under level 20 should be hideable because they occur very often. I think under level 10 they shoudln't even be displayed (death under that level aren't even displayed on the HC census page of Turtle WoW).

[Eazyp]

.hc messages <level> might be it

That gives an error for me, saying I'm not a hardcore character :(

[Taela]

I like the idea but i agree they are annoying. The best idea i believe would be to lower the timer. preferably, if someone die at early levels make them go away rather quickly. If they got to a high level as hardcore i think the graves are cool but i really dont see the point with someone taking that visual space when they die before even getting to level 10.

[Velmerk]

How about the gravestones act almost like a totem. Giving buffs to players
Only something small like +1 to attack.
Here lyes a fallen mortal brother. Seeing there gravestones grants +10 HP.
Could be quite cool in caves where many fall.

[Shamma]

How about the gravestones act almost like a totem. Giving buffs to players
Only something small like +1 to attack.
Here lyes a fallen mortal brother. Seeing there gravestones grants +10 HP.
Could be quite cool in caves where many fall.

Totem but with debuffs is more interesting. U see the graves of the fallen and you get demoralized. You lose your spirit, you lose your strength and start trembling with fear.

[Ashkir]

I think the 1-10s could be disabled at least for the gravemarker :/ or despawn faster they're everywhere and there was a series that blocked entrance to a cave I needed to go itno so I had to jump over one of them

Sometimes they add movement blocks