Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

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Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:36 pm

1.Why should shamans be treated unfairly? Both have the "Flurry" skill, Warriors get a 30% acceleration, while shamans only have a 15% acceleration. Why can't it be fair and just?

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maintenance_turtle 2.Additionally, it is suggested to modify the 8T3 effect to 20% triggering a free skill. Because the skill only has a 5S CD, resetting it is meaningless and ridiculous.

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Grizb37 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:38 pm

Because turtle follows the philosophy that no Hybrid should be doing as much dps as Warriors and mages.

It was the same on feral druid. They nerfed one of our talents because in the tests we were *almost* doing as much damage as warriors. (single target)
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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:46 pm

However, the reason why I feel angry is that the same skills are treated differently. It's not cool at all and makes me feel racially discriminated against!!!

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Drubarrymooer » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:49 pm

Dragon617 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:46 pm not cool at all and makes me feel racially discriminated against!!!

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:54 pm

Just because we are shamans? Just because our skin is black? We are all living humans, and we are all good babies! Oh my jack!

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:57 pm

Even if DPS needs to be balanced, it can be achieved through other means and should not be targeted at skills with the same name!

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by jfif » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:33 pm

Although shamanic priests may suffer from unfair treatment, there are also many races and factions in World of Warcraft that respect and value the power and wisdom of shamanic priests. Shaman priests play an important role in the game world, possessing the ability to communicate with elements, balance natural forces, fight against evil forces, and protect the people. Therefore, they still play an important role throughout World of Warcraft.

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Springboards » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:52 pm

someone's warrior probably got 1shotted by an enh shaman in pvp

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Bigsmerf » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:14 am

Guys help I'm actively losing braincells with each passing second. I don't think I'll be able to form cohesive thoughts soon.
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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Atreidon » Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:38 am

Simply put, due to the introduction of ap scaling on shocks, and increase in weapon based instant attacks, enhancement was now actually quite good. But instead of tuning back the these buffs a little bit, the good things shaman always had (wf & flurry) had to be preemptively nerfed

Lightning strike and 12 second cdr from vanilla probably are just a bit much

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:14 pm

Even if DPS needs to be balanced, it can be achieved through other means and should not be targeted at skills with the same name!~~~not favour some warrior over others

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Frantsel » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:19 pm

Grizb37 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:38 pm Because turtle follows the philosophy that no Hybrid should be doing as much dps as Warriors and mages.
Except pala and druid, well and shaman actually too :D

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:49 pm

11.1:Reduced Shaman's Flurry attack speed increase from 10/15/20/25/30% to 7/9/11/13/15%.

increase ? ? ?

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Harkus » Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:50 pm

Dragon617 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:49 pm 11.1:Reduced Shaman's Flurry attack speed increase from 10/15/20/25/30% to 7/9/11/13/15%.

increase ? ? ?
WF got unnerfed which this balances for apparently... pick your poison sad_turtle_head

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:17 pm

Harkus wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:50 pm
Dragon617 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:49 pm 11.1:Reduced Shaman's Flurry attack speed increase from 10/15/20/25/30% to 7/9/11/13/15%.

increase ? ? ?
WF got unnerfed which this balances for apparently... pick your poison sad_turtle_head
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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Dragon617 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:19 am

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Noce » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:38 am

just make it a 3/3 talent instead 5/5. keep the same 15% and its fixed.

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Re: Why should shamans be treated unfairly?

Post by Atreidon » Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:45 am

Its not fixed to just make it 3/3 - its one of the very few good things shamans always had - nerfing what was there to compensate for their whack new toolkit is doing it all backwards

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